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That should be fine. Not sure how lorries delivering materials will affect the airport then as there is a constant stream at the moment and many of the projects haven't started yet but will be in full flow by them. The issue with the lorries is some of them have to reverse in from the CTA roundabout and that can create a hold up.
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I thought easyjet was adding 1 extra aircraft to Luton this summer and not the 4 claimed as the total is still 19. Was there only 15 aircraft based at Luton last summer?
Is this an attempt to get rid of Vueling out of their back yard? With Amsterdam becoming 8 times daily and Barcelona becoming 5 times daily between the two airlines have we another Copenhagen heading this way with plenty of giveaway fares to get the numbers in?
Is this an attempt to get rid of Vueling out of their back yard? With Amsterdam becoming 8 times daily and Barcelona becoming 5 times daily between the two airlines have we another Copenhagen heading this way with plenty of giveaway fares to get the numbers in?
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Well this reaction from easyJet is not surprising. Maybe this is why they have not announce any routes (except from Jersey) from Luton, as they are adding lots of frequencies on existing routes. I think it's good they have a bit of competition, as I have been looking at fares on LTN-AMS with EZY and they are pretty expensive, with Vueling considerably cheaper. I can definitely see another LTN-CPH scenario on AMS and BCN routes.
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Extra flights start with effect from Sept 5th which is late summer and the CTA might be in a bit better condition by then with the MSCP.
Extra flights are a 8.30 and 20.10 departures on Monday
12.40 and 20.10 departures on Thursday and Friday
Saturday goes to 4x Daily and Sunday 5x Daily so quite an increase for the weekend.
All the flights apart from one on a Sunday( it appears) are by LTN based a/c so they aren't trying to fight like for like with Vueling by using AMS based a/c with a early morning departure.
Looks like they are playing the waiting game with Vueling for route announcements .They obviously see them as more of an aggressive competitor than Transavia or will we see CDG increasing in the not too distant future.
Extra flights start with effect from Sept 5th which is late summer and the CTA might be in a bit better condition by then with the MSCP.
Extra flights are a 8.30 and 20.10 departures on Monday
12.40 and 20.10 departures on Thursday and Friday
Saturday goes to 4x Daily and Sunday 5x Daily so quite an increase for the weekend.
All the flights apart from one on a Sunday( it appears) are by LTN based a/c so they aren't trying to fight like for like with Vueling by using AMS based a/c with a early morning departure.
Looks like they are playing the waiting game with Vueling for route announcements .They obviously see them as more of an aggressive competitor than Transavia or will we see CDG increasing in the not too distant future.
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What a waste of additional flights to these three cities, when both airlines could co-exist with the frequencies they were both offering and was sufficient for the current markets...
This in my opinion is a panic move by easyJet and is exactly how Ryanair respond, to competition and benefits no one. We have a load of additonal seats to three cities where there is no actual real additional demand, and both airlines have to palm these seats off at rock-bottom fares to fill the planes. Then playing a waiting game to see which airline cracks first and pull off the route.
easyJet has similar competition at Gatwick on numerous routes, but doesn't do this kind of reaction. So they are clearly trying to rid Vueling from the airport, where easyJet has had it all there own way until recent times.
With all these new additional frequencies, we could have been looking at 6-7 new routes being opened instead with 2-3 flights a week... Barcelona and Zurich are around 2 to 2.5hr sectors in each direction, so could have looked at new flights to other tourist destinations like Croatia, Italy and Spain.
Or even another Scandanavian city or two! They could have flown to the likes of Oslo, Helsinki or Stockholm for example while only competing with Norwegian, but not directly from the same London airports.
Anyway I cast doubts on these "additional" aircraft being added to Luton and bringing the number to 19, based here with easyJet. I am sure it has been that figure for the last year or two, but unfortunately do not have the time to confirm this and look back through the forums. I highly suspect Smoke and Mirrors might be involved in this latest press release, with additional frequencies possibly being flown from the AMS and BCN bases.
This in my opinion is a panic move by easyJet and is exactly how Ryanair respond, to competition and benefits no one. We have a load of additonal seats to three cities where there is no actual real additional demand, and both airlines have to palm these seats off at rock-bottom fares to fill the planes. Then playing a waiting game to see which airline cracks first and pull off the route.
easyJet has similar competition at Gatwick on numerous routes, but doesn't do this kind of reaction. So they are clearly trying to rid Vueling from the airport, where easyJet has had it all there own way until recent times.
With all these new additional frequencies, we could have been looking at 6-7 new routes being opened instead with 2-3 flights a week... Barcelona and Zurich are around 2 to 2.5hr sectors in each direction, so could have looked at new flights to other tourist destinations like Croatia, Italy and Spain.
Or even another Scandanavian city or two! They could have flown to the likes of Oslo, Helsinki or Stockholm for example while only competing with Norwegian, but not directly from the same London airports.
Anyway I cast doubts on these "additional" aircraft being added to Luton and bringing the number to 19, based here with easyJet. I am sure it has been that figure for the last year or two, but unfortunately do not have the time to confirm this and look back through the forums. I highly suspect Smoke and Mirrors might be involved in this latest press release, with additional frequencies possibly being flown from the AMS and BCN bases.
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I don’t really have a strong opinion either way, but I’m not quite sure how lower fares and increased frequencies is “of benefit to no one”. I’m sure passengers on these routes won’t be complaining.
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For me easyJet is the worst placed of all the major LCC's (EZY/FR/DY/VY). Ryanair's size and aircraft backlog & Vueling's growth are going to be an ever increasing problem for them, even in heartlands.
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I’m sure passengers on these routes won’t be complaining.
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I agree with toledoashley. EZY are actually slightly vulnerable long term, they have shied away from competition with some of the others elsewhere in Europe. They are strong at LGW but even there they are starting to see a BA fight back as well as others on their turf. Vueling's UK presence is getting incrementally larger.
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easyJet definitely had 18 based aircraft in Summer 2016. In fact, looking at the departures tomorrow morning it looks like they have 18 based aircraft right now. So the mention of an "additional four" based aircraft in the press release does not seem genuine to me.
The aircraft mix will be interesting when we know it. In Summer 2016 easyJet based 6 x A320 and 12 x A319. Looking at tomorrow's schedule they have 7 x A320 and 11 x A319. So I wonder if we'll have even more A320s this summer?
The aircraft mix will be interesting when we know it. In Summer 2016 easyJet based 6 x A320 and 12 x A319. Looking at tomorrow's schedule they have 7 x A320 and 11 x A319. So I wonder if we'll have even more A320s this summer?
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EZY are actually slightly vulnerable long term
I still think however they've been a bit on the slow side to respond. VY would have had a number of months to establish themselves before EZYs increases actually come to fruition.
You could be almost certain if FR were in EZYs shoes, they'd have these increases implemented probably the very day of VY's inaugural flight(s).
I guess EZY are bound to be a bit more defensive on their home turf, but I hope this is a sign of things to come from them... yet for some reason, I doubt it!
It's only a matter of time before EZY's real competitors further encroach on their route network. They can't shy away forever.
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I'm not sure you appreciate how EZY work. Every plane is fully committed during summer months, plus some with lease ins, they cannot, at a drop of a hat add more capacity. Were these new competitors routes started because of excess which had to be put somewhere? Short term vs Long term strategy? This is how the world works, lets see how things pan out next year....
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It does Luton no flavours when its dominant airline tries to push other airlines out of the airport. Clearly it has rattled a few feathers at Easyland but Luton needs diversification as getting into a situation like Stansted finds itself in where 85% of all flights are operated by one airline gives that airline too much power.
Luckily for Luton it has Wizz which through mass migration has grown spectacularly knocking Easyjet's recent growth into the shade. I can see the day when Wizz will be Luton's biggest carrier or at the very least they will be knocking at the door. During the winter months they might well be the airports biggest carrier.
Largest Operator Movements 2014
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6% Monarch
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Luckily for Luton it has Wizz which through mass migration has grown spectacularly knocking Easyjet's recent growth into the shade. I can see the day when Wizz will be Luton's biggest carrier or at the very least they will be knocking at the door. During the winter months they might well be the airports biggest carrier.
Largest Operator Movements 2014
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6% Monarch
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Weekly redevelopment update
With the first 100m of a modular drainage solution in place opposite the Holiday Inn Express almost now covered in earth, work continues to dig out the next 100m up to the junction of the mid term car park.
Three days were lost when the crane working on one of the cores to the covered passenger walkway appeared to breakdown with work only resuming yesterday.
The temporary exit route at the moment is blocked by a car park pay machine, this is in the process of being moved to a new location. Once that is out of the way the route will pass through what was one of the exit barriers to the short term car park which is also being removed. (photo taken yesterday)
The site of the terminal extension is being tidied up with most of the holes dug being back filled.
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Last week I thought this area by the shelter/ walkway was just being levelled but it appears this will also be the temporary location for the kiosks that sit by the existing main entrance as 4 various sized foundations have gone in.
One of the issues with the 1999 terminal was the lack of any natural light at the check-in area. This was remedied when large windows were put in. It looks like these windows might be about to be taken back out again as the new entrance is to the right of here. The plans just show two retail kiosks under the canopy in this area so it would seem the windows will be gone for good.
Three days were lost when the crane working on one of the cores to the covered passenger walkway appeared to breakdown with work only resuming yesterday.
The temporary exit route at the moment is blocked by a car park pay machine, this is in the process of being moved to a new location. Once that is out of the way the route will pass through what was one of the exit barriers to the short term car park which is also being removed. (photo taken yesterday)
The site of the terminal extension is being tidied up with most of the holes dug being back filled.
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Last week I thought this area by the shelter/ walkway was just being levelled but it appears this will also be the temporary location for the kiosks that sit by the existing main entrance as 4 various sized foundations have gone in.
One of the issues with the 1999 terminal was the lack of any natural light at the check-in area. This was remedied when large windows were put in. It looks like these windows might be about to be taken back out again as the new entrance is to the right of here. The plans just show two retail kiosks under the canopy in this area so it would seem the windows will be gone for good.
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