LUTON -8
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: In the sticks
Posts: 9,849
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
After attending the Wigmore Park meeting where any expansion of new aprons onto the former tip was dismissed as impracticable no one here has come up with how any future expansion can take place. I don't see the airport operator pushing for future expansion either as by the time it was delivered the end of the lease would be in sight.
Last edited by LTNman; 5th Apr 2017 at 21:34.
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: A place you do not know
Posts: 513
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
?Local firm Ryebridge lands £7million contract to grow Luton airport | Bedfordshire News
Does anyone know where the 4 new stands are going. I know 1 stand is going on the south stands. What about next to the engine run up bay. That strip there is the only place I can think the airport can expand before it gets trapped. Might need to think about writing a letter to the government asking to change the borders so it can expand on the other side of the runway.
Does anyone know where the 4 new stands are going. I know 1 stand is going on the south stands. What about next to the engine run up bay. That strip there is the only place I can think the airport can expand before it gets trapped. Might need to think about writing a letter to the government asking to change the borders so it can expand on the other side of the runway.
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: In the sticks
Posts: 9,849
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Ryebridge are building 2 extra stands on the south apron taking the total to 6. Most of the new concrete is going in at the 08 end while there is a smaller strip going in towards 26 and taxiway Delta.
The other 2 new stands are going in on the Pond, which is overlooked by the Holiday Inn and is used during the day by Signature. The stands have already been marked up as stands 16-19. The bulk of the work is to increase the depth of the Pond particularly towards the tunnel end so the apron will be all but touching the fence of the Holiday Inn car park. There is also a slight increase in width.
Other new stands have been created by remarking the existing stands include 1 on the hangar line and 2 on the Eastern apron. In a couple of years time Signatue's other apron by the site of the former Flying Club will also have new concrete poured and will become 3 extra stands.
The other 2 new stands are going in on the Pond, which is overlooked by the Holiday Inn and is used during the day by Signature. The stands have already been marked up as stands 16-19. The bulk of the work is to increase the depth of the Pond particularly towards the tunnel end so the apron will be all but touching the fence of the Holiday Inn car park. There is also a slight increase in width.
Other new stands have been created by remarking the existing stands include 1 on the hangar line and 2 on the Eastern apron. In a couple of years time Signatue's other apron by the site of the former Flying Club will also have new concrete poured and will become 3 extra stands.
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Not so many places currently
Age: 60
Posts: 3,793
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Stands 16-19 could be a temp NHT!
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: A place you do not know
Posts: 513
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
https://buyingbusinesstravel.com/new...nger-milestone
Not bad going for LTN. I have been up the airport twice in the last week and both arrivals and departures were heaving. This was meant to be outside peak times too.
Not bad going for LTN. I have been up the airport twice in the last week and both arrivals and departures were heaving. This was meant to be outside peak times too.
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Al tube.
Posts: 464
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I thought the new terminal infrastructure was aimed at providing 18M capacity? If so then at the current expansion rate of 15.7% and 15M passangers at present, the airport will be at about 17.4M already this time next year if similar passenger growth continues! The current building is, surely already looking on those figure, to be to little to late?
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: In the sticks
Posts: 9,849
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
That is how Luton traditionally operates with any new capacity used up before the extra infustruture is finished.
The new terminal had a capacity of 5 million before its pier was built and before the upstairs departure lounge was brought into service with the old terminal being used as the departure lounge. That capacity was broken before it even opened.
The new terminal had a capacity of 5 million before its pier was built and before the upstairs departure lounge was brought into service with the old terminal being used as the departure lounge. That capacity was broken before it even opened.
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: London Whipsnade Wildlife Park
Posts: 5,038
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Combined movements for Stansted, Luton and Cambridge for 2016 was 329,175, Gatwick 280,666, & Heathrow 474,973. This makes Essex Radar the second busiest Airport sector within the London TMA. Now when you add the predicted growth for both Luton and Stansted for this coming summer, those figures will be comprehensively shattered.
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Rapunzel's tower
Posts: 441
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
That is how Luton traditionally operates with any new capacity used up before the extra infustruture is finished.
The new terminal had a capacity of 5 million before its pier was built and before the upstairs departure lounge was brought into service with the old terminal being used as the departure lounge. That capacity was broken before it even opened.
The new terminal had a capacity of 5 million before its pier was built and before the upstairs departure lounge was brought into service with the old terminal being used as the departure lounge. That capacity was broken before it even opened.
"Sweating the assets" is what bean-counters do. It's "financially prudent" not to risk a huge financial investment until it's absolutely necessary.
It does mean that every department is stretched to almost bursting point.
Not always helped by the tiresomely slow planning approval process.
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: In the sticks
Posts: 9,849
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Construction update
The Pond receives its new concrete to make it wider and deeper so it can handle 4 Airbuses or 4 737's
The dual carriageway has opened but only one lane in each direction at the moment due to the construction of the traffic lighted junction into the mid term car park
The new inbound route under the footbridge has opened but again only as a single lane until it reaches the footbridge where it becomes 2 lanes until the exit barriers.
The restricted access roundabout has yet to open with buses and taxis following the old temporary route to the passenger footbridge.
The "Tesco" style walkway has now opened.
The dual carriageway has opened but only one lane in each direction at the moment due to the construction of the traffic lighted junction into the mid term car park
The new inbound route under the footbridge has opened but again only as a single lane until it reaches the footbridge where it becomes 2 lanes until the exit barriers.
The restricted access roundabout has yet to open with buses and taxis following the old temporary route to the passenger footbridge.
The "Tesco" style walkway has now opened.
Last edited by LTNman; 30th Apr 2017 at 16:27.
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: In the sticks
Posts: 9,849
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
6:30 on a Sunday morning. The dual carriageway might still be a single lane up to the passenger footbridge but this was not meant to happen. Google map does not show the new route that misses out the CTA roundabout but the whole point of the £14 million contract was to stop congestion.
I don't even need to be there to know the issue is with the single lane drop off zone, that pedestrian crossing and cars stopping in the middle of the zone rather than by a kerbside to let out passengers as I was watching it happen again yesterday during a less busy period. Once the duel carriageway is fully open the queue will seem smaller but the queue time will remain the same as most cars try to get back into a single lane to enter the drop off zone.
The airport have already admitted that their traffic model forecast did not see any problems but at the moment their investment is achieving nothing.
Last edited by LTNman; 30th Apr 2017 at 16:28.
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: MCT
Posts: 895
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
6:30 on a Sunday morning. The duel carriageway might still be a single lane up to the passenger footbridge but this was not meant to happen. Google map does not show the new route that misses out the CTA roundabout but the whole point of the £14 million contract was to stop congestion.
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Between the check-in desks
Posts: 445
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I have to question whether the airport got professional advice about the design of the drop off zone or whether a couple of airport numpties came up with the layout on a scrap of paper.
The last effort with its four lanes and four barriers replaced eight lanes and eight barriers before the airport upgrade began and that was bad enough due to the time it was taking to get through the barriers. Now the barriers have been removed but so have all of the lanes bar one extra long lane. The result is no improvement at all despite a massive investment.
When the plans were first published here some two years ago those four pedestrian crossings on a single drop off lane looked like a recipe for disaster but even I am surprised at how bad it is in the early mornings. There would actually be even more passengers crossing the road if they could get into the drop off zone but the zone has a peak time traffic flow rate of as little as ten cars a minute. I know that as I fact as I have done a traffic count before I have started a shift.
So the airport build a spanking new duel carriageway that also has a traffic flow rate close to 10 cars a minute as some cars will be heading for the car parks.
Nice one Luton Airport.
The last effort with its four lanes and four barriers replaced eight lanes and eight barriers before the airport upgrade began and that was bad enough due to the time it was taking to get through the barriers. Now the barriers have been removed but so have all of the lanes bar one extra long lane. The result is no improvement at all despite a massive investment.
When the plans were first published here some two years ago those four pedestrian crossings on a single drop off lane looked like a recipe for disaster but even I am surprised at how bad it is in the early mornings. There would actually be even more passengers crossing the road if they could get into the drop off zone but the zone has a peak time traffic flow rate of as little as ten cars a minute. I know that as I fact as I have done a traffic count before I have started a shift.
So the airport build a spanking new duel carriageway that also has a traffic flow rate close to 10 cars a minute as some cars will be heading for the car parks.
Nice one Luton Airport.
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Between the check-in desks
Posts: 445
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
It could do with being substantially wider. I have waited for the airport bus under the first part that was completed last year when it rains. Luton does not have vertical rain but horizontal rain due to the open nature of the site. Also when it is raining it is often the case that the top end of the walkway will be full of waiting bus passengers forcing anyone else to walk outside the shelter
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: London Whipsnade Wildlife Park
Posts: 5,038
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Apologies in advance as this is not news about bus shelters or dual carriageways.
From ch-aviation.
Surf Air Europe (Cardiff) has announced it will commence operations on June 23 with flights out of its London Luton hub. A review of the carrier's tentative timetable indicates it will offer daily return flights from Luton to each of Cannes Mandelieu (France) and Geneva and Zurich (Switzerland).
A unit of California-based Surf Air (URF, Palo Alto), the subscription-based carrier will use Embraer Phenom 300 executive jets and Swiss-made PC-12 single-turboprop aircraft all of which will be operated by its UK-based technical partner, TAG Aviation (UK) (VIP, Farnborough).
From ch-aviation.
Surf Air Europe (Cardiff) has announced it will commence operations on June 23 with flights out of its London Luton hub. A review of the carrier's tentative timetable indicates it will offer daily return flights from Luton to each of Cannes Mandelieu (France) and Geneva and Zurich (Switzerland).
A unit of California-based Surf Air (URF, Palo Alto), the subscription-based carrier will use Embraer Phenom 300 executive jets and Swiss-made PC-12 single-turboprop aircraft all of which will be operated by its UK-based technical partner, TAG Aviation (UK) (VIP, Farnborough).
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: A place you do not know
Posts: 513
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
BUSTER BUSTER BUSTER BEAR
Any updates on how this new airline is coming along with its 5/6 daily service??? Gone very quiet about this now. What about the sprinkler system?? Has that been fitted yet now that's its being used or is this one not happening either.
Any updates on how this new airline is coming along with its 5/6 daily service??? Gone very quiet about this now. What about the sprinkler system?? Has that been fitted yet now that's its being used or is this one not happening either.
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: In the sticks
Posts: 9,849
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
This is how the departure lounge should look when it is finished. The red lines show the new build over the former bus station and the new expanded frontage.
The main differences to the existing departure lounge is the removal of a restricted access corridor that will allow a large bar and food retail outlet to provide seating behind existing retail units and that will overlook the eastern apron. The bar will occupy the former duty free shop. A new corridor has been built in the top right hand corner so allow access to pier B.
Seating shown as the green areas remains confined to the existing departure lounge.
The walkway from the duty free shop to the existing departure lounge will be used to further increase the duty free shop when the route through the expanded departure lounge opens
Last edited by LTNman; 10th Apr 2017 at 06:02.
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: isle of man
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Too much wine on a Sunday night? Surely you take everything on a rumours forum with a pinch of salt?! If you don't want to believe someone, just ignore them.
San Sebastian
I've just noticed that Iberia / Air Nostrum have put flights to San Sebastian back on sale again for July+Aug 2017. Presumably the route in summer 2016 did well enough to run for another summer