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Old 5th Sep 2016, 14:36
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Second new route announced in a week

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Old 5th Sep 2016, 15:17
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There are reasons (perhaps misguided) why MAG would not have wanted La Compagnie.
If they think that there is a chance (again perhaps misguided) that they might get an established airline to operate long haul from the airport, they wouldn't want a 'budget' club class operator in competition.

Now, it may be that STN will never get that airline, perhaps highly likely they don't, but that is MAGs ambition and those airlines require pax for their premium cabins to make it work.

Yes I think MAG would love a transatlantic operator but I don't think they wanted a startup 'low cost business' proposition that may have been a flash in the lab that potentially halted other developments.
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Old 5th Sep 2016, 15:25
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So back to the LCC's and "Bucket and Spade" brigade to keep the figures going upwards.
Shame as two different styles of airlines go- wonder how the airport will try and spin it if interviewed!!!
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Old 5th Sep 2016, 16:18
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Call me a cynic and yes I am but I personally wrote on this forum that I would give La Compagnie a year and now there off, am I surprised not one bit the only thing I'm surprised about is that they lasted this long especially from Luton 'dump' Airport
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Old 5th Sep 2016, 16:40
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Ah...Canberra 97!...I wondered how long it would be before your wise words came forth!
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Old 5th Sep 2016, 17:07
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Does anyone know when the following airline's release their summer schedules for 2017?

- easyJet
- Vueling
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Old 5th Sep 2016, 17:30
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Originally Posted by LGS6753
There had been some straws in the wind:

Promo fares of £1000 return was always too cheap for the product - still being widely offered this summer.

BA chopped their second daily A318 service from LCY a few days ago.

It shows that the premium-only market is a very difficult one to succeed in.
The La Compagnie decision is surely a bit of a reality check for LTN. Most on her thought it would fail. It's actually done well to last as long as it has. In reality the only long haul routes that might thrive from LTN are holiday destinations like Orlando and Cancun or perhaps routes to somewhere like Pakistan where there's local demand.

LTN will always work best for the LCC and charter operators because the long haul premium market is just too tough a nut to crack.
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Old 5th Sep 2016, 18:06
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There is a market for LTN-NYC, just possibly not the right product to fit the current demand. Once the 321neoLR comes out, maybe someone like JetBlue might look at Luton - Mint product upfront, and a cost-competitive economy.
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Old 5th Sep 2016, 20:00
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Quite a few routes being axed from Luton have been announced:

Newark (La Compagnie)
Lanzarote (Monarch)
Dalaman (Thomson)
Istanbul (Atlasglobal)
Rome (Monarch)
Bratislava (Ryanair)

We'll have to see if any of the newer routes are coming back next year such as Adria Airways to Pristina, Iberia Regional to San Sebastián and Sun Express to Izmir.
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Old 5th Sep 2016, 20:50
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it really needs to take a breath and get it's development fiasco sorted before trying to grow further and before trying to diversify away from the low fare market.
Except it is clear that it is the LCC market the airport sees its future in. This is re-enforced by the fact that the airport does not appear to be considering even one airbridge.

The presenter of the JVS show on Three Counties Radio made scathing comments about Luton and its hot dog stands that are positioned by the terminal entrance describing them as something you find at a fairground and not an international airport.

What I am noticing as the first parts of the airports expansion are completed are the poor quality and cheap finishing. This includes the passenger bridges and cores with their plastic windows, pure gravel parking in the mid term car park after part of it has been expanded and Gate 16 which lacks even a tiled floor and has painted walls that will mark in days.

Maybe all of that doesn't matter if the airport keeps growing the business with just LCC but it would be nice to see Luton at least off the bottom when it comes to league tables of the UK's best and worst airports and maybe trying to attract a few more established full fare carriers.

The very fact that they will be putting in a £200 million rail link will secure the airports future and maybe then they will add an airbridge or two at a later date.
Quite a few routes being axed from Luton have been announced:
A few less passengers is just what the airport needs next year
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Old 5th Sep 2016, 21:54
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Yes you are right, it is the council that is funding the rail link as far as I am aware but we all have to remember that AENA are the worlds largest airport operator so they should know what they are doing when it comes to growing Luton.

At the back of my mind is the fact that they are in effect only renting the airport and don't actually own it and will one day have to just hand it back over. With that in mind I can see why they would want to spend as little as possible.
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Old 5th Sep 2016, 21:56
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What I am noticing as the first parts of the airports expansion are completed are the poor quality and cheap finishing.
That's never happened before ..

In truth though, it's not just LTN but almost every corporate entity in the UK does this now. It's standard to take the short term, cheapest option and then replace it later under 'maintenance'. It lowers the upfront cost and everyone thinks it's great. Except the customers.
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Old 5th Sep 2016, 22:28
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The statistics for August 2016 are now out and available on Luton's website.

August 2016 saw 1,573,879 passengers travelling through Luton.

Copenhagen was the busiest route out of Luton in August with 63,432 passengers travelling on the route followed by Budapest (54,692), Bucharest (51,161) & Palma de Mallorca (50,756).

Due to Vueling's arrival, Amsterdam & Barcelona figures have significantly increases on last year.

The running total for this year so far up to August is 9,751,824. This is even more than the airport had for the whole year in 2013 and we still have 4 months of figures to come! So I would say looking at current trends we could be looking at 14-15 million passengers for the year.
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Old 6th Sep 2016, 15:42
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Just saw these artist impressions of Luton on their instagram of what it should "supposedly" look like when the expansion is complete. For their sake I hope it looks like this because the cladding on the carpark and the pier looks awful imo.
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Old 6th Sep 2016, 15:45
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See the Airport website is showing new "Artists Impressions" of what the finished terminal will look like and adding more over the coming days.
Bet they use the plastic panels for the roof of the canopy!!
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Old 6th Sep 2016, 16:11
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La Compangnie to EWR 'suspended' (aka scrapped). Brexit being blamed...
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Old 6th Sep 2016, 16:26
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Reported on thread 4874 do keep up to date please !
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Old 6th Sep 2016, 16:40
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From the latest artist impression compared to original i see the differences being:
Terminal building extended out further than previous.
Canopy made of tent/canvas/some other stretched material???
No onward travel centre?
The bridge cladding looking like current stuff going up.
Canopy from bridge core being made of similar tented canopy, which the bottom picture is missing.
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Old 6th Sep 2016, 18:22
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According to "Transform" - a development update on the LLA website, the mass transit station will be above the drop-off zone. If the schematic map shown is correct, the track will cross the mid-term car park, pass over the taxiway, and cross above the newly-constructed walkway.
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Old 6th Sep 2016, 18:36
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So ... the mass transit that was talked about donkey's years ago and could have been designed in donkey's years ago - will now have to go on stilts over working areas? Thus parts of the car park, taxiways, roadways and walkway will have to close again in sewuence, for it to be installed? Also, all of those places could be subject to inadvertent damage during the process.

Sounds like the airport we know ...
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