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Perhaps not quite as desperate at BHX yet and we expect a 3rd EK service next year.
Also we have the first China Southern charter in a few weeks which will hopefully be expanded.....
Also we have the first China Southern charter in a few weeks which will hopefully be expanded.....
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I have to agree with crewmeal, long haul developments at BHX at the moment are all just airy fairy if's and maybe's. Apart from a 'blink and you miss them' series of flights to Beijing in a couple of weeks, there is nothing at present in terms of long haul airlines and destinations to show for the massive capital investment in the runway extension either this summer or next. There may be more China flights next summer but as LAX_LHR says there is nothing concrete in new long haul in sight.
Yes, getonittt, agreed, EDI is a different airport to BHX and what happens there has little bearing on BHX. But fact is EDI have secured QR, the AUH airline, AC Rouge, US Airways and an expanded schedule from UA in less than 12 months and now overshadows the long haul network at BHX. I should imagine EDI management are very hungry for a China route and I wouldn't be surprised if they get it. However apart from that and the return of DL, I can't see much further viable long haul opportunities from EDI right now.
I'm not saying that BHX should have all these new airlines and routes as at EDI but that is significant and very healthy long haul growth which right now is not happening at BHX. I think that BHX for too long has focused on being an overspill airport for LHR, instead it should have been marketing itself as a stand alone facility with its own many airport, locational and regional market strengths
Ending on a positive note though, BHX pax figures are going up, new routes by BE seem to be doing well, Icelandair are coming next year and it's still a great airport to fly to/from!
Yes, getonittt, agreed, EDI is a different airport to BHX and what happens there has little bearing on BHX. But fact is EDI have secured QR, the AUH airline, AC Rouge, US Airways and an expanded schedule from UA in less than 12 months and now overshadows the long haul network at BHX. I should imagine EDI management are very hungry for a China route and I wouldn't be surprised if they get it. However apart from that and the return of DL, I can't see much further viable long haul opportunities from EDI right now.
I'm not saying that BHX should have all these new airlines and routes as at EDI but that is significant and very healthy long haul growth which right now is not happening at BHX. I think that BHX for too long has focused on being an overspill airport for LHR, instead it should have been marketing itself as a stand alone facility with its own many airport, locational and regional market strengths
Ending on a positive note though, BHX pax figures are going up, new routes by BE seem to be doing well, Icelandair are coming next year and it's still a great airport to fly to/from!
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BHX and new routes
It may well be that the airport is holding back on announcements until the day of the official opening of the runway extension!
This would give increased publicity if new route announcements come about!
Here's hoping .....
This would give increased publicity if new route announcements come about!
Here's hoping .....
But fact is EDI have secured QR, the AUH airline, AC Rouge, US Airways and an expanded schedule from UA in less than 12 months and now overshadows the long haul network at BHX.
Paul indeed here's to hoping!
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I have to say that strictly from a PAX point of view I don't particularly relish the idea of BHX expanding much more unless a third roomy and naturally lit 3rd terminal is built. The existing and dire (herding-cattle-into-one-large-and-dark-pen) facility is close enough to capacity for my liking as it is now.
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Hotel Tango,
Would you believe the current capacity for the terminal is 18 million, and we are on less than 10 at present !
They really want to develop the old Eurotub built for BA and now incorporated into the one terminal. However it was built for BA hub and spoke and its not possible to convert at reasonable cost BHX claim.
So they will have to demolish it when /if they can afford too. At present the LCC use it most BE/FR.
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Would you believe the current capacity for the terminal is 18 million, and we are on less than 10 at present !
They really want to develop the old Eurotub built for BA and now incorporated into the one terminal. However it was built for BA hub and spoke and its not possible to convert at reasonable cost BHX claim.
So they will have to demolish it when /if they can afford too. At present the LCC use it most BE/FR.
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Crikey wasn't long ago when people on here were bleating how poor BHX EK was doing and that it was rubbish that Air India would be starting , now look at their figures !
Icelandair WILL be starting a new route from BHX.
Air Transat ARE adding more capacity next year.
One of our long haul airlines ARE going daily very soon.
BHX passenger figures ARE increasing at a good pace and now just below their peak all time peak .
Fly Be HAVE expanded considerably in recent months out of BHX
Monarch HAVE just added 2 new winter sched routes for this winter.
Thomson ARE increasing their long haul flights out of BHX from this winter.
Hope that helps.
Nigel
Crikey wasn't long ago when people on here were bleating how poor BHX EK was doing and that it was rubbish that Air India would be starting , now look at their figures !
Icelandair WILL be starting a new route from BHX.
Air Transat ARE adding more capacity next year.
One of our long haul airlines ARE going daily very soon.
BHX passenger figures ARE increasing at a good pace and now just below their peak all time peak .
Fly Be HAVE expanded considerably in recent months out of BHX
Monarch HAVE just added 2 new winter sched routes for this winter.
Thomson ARE increasing their long haul flights out of BHX from this winter.
Hope that helps.
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One of our long haul airlines ARE going daily very soon
Air Transat ARE adding more capacity next year.
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LGS, yes the pier itself is fine and generally I escape to it as soon as possible. On the down side, once on the pier there is only one departure info screen and there is little in the way of amenities. The only refreshments/snacks outlet is closed more often than open every time I use the airport. If you want a meal it's a case of having to eat in the dark and noisy dungeon they call a departure lounge
Nigel, my point exactly. Already now at 10 million it can get pretty horrid at peak times.
Nigel, my point exactly. Already now at 10 million it can get pretty horrid at peak times.
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talking of long haul.....
It’s appears that PIA how now reduced their flights out of Birmingham with only 3 weekly flights, Sunday, Tuesday and Thursday, with the Saturday flight no longer showing in their booking engine for at least the rest of the year.
At least we get the Thomson 787 from next friday, replacing the 767 on the Montego Bay, Cancun and Orlando Services!
It’s appears that PIA how now reduced their flights out of Birmingham with only 3 weekly flights, Sunday, Tuesday and Thursday, with the Saturday flight no longer showing in their booking engine for at least the rest of the year.
At least we get the Thomson 787 from next friday, replacing the 767 on the Montego Bay, Cancun and Orlando Services!
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Crikey wasn't long ago when people on here were bleating how poor BHX EK was doing and that it was rubbish that Air India would be starting , now look at their figures !
Was proven wrong, spectacularly so as it happens, and had to eat my hat. BTW, it tasted good, but not that good.
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"Dark and noisy dungeon"?? We must fly from different airports!!
Does anyone know what the "comfort time" is for the seats in the departure time (the designed in time before the user becomes uncomfortable and gets up to walk around ... to the retail)
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BDS10, I guess you're a FlyBe or Ryanair pax then The former Eurohub pier is much more pleasant to use as at least it offers decent facilities and a view of the outside world. The main departure lounge, sorry I mean shopping mall, is windowless.
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PIA
PIA on a regular basis reduce from 4 to 3 and did so a few weeks ago as well. The timetable then shows the flight not operating for the rest of the year but usually changes.
It may be different this time but I doubt it.
Centre cities
It may be different this time but I doubt it.
Centre cities
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Great news the article here Thomas Cook Airlines Offers More Destinations And Flights From Birmingham Airport in 2015 - Birmingham Airport
New destinations Lesbos and Kalamata and along with TOM they also add Djerba
New destinations Lesbos and Kalamata and along with TOM they also add Djerba
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Thomas Cook/KLM
Good news re Thomas Cook especially the destinations chosen.
KLM
Not so good news as KLM seem to be slashing winter capacity across the UK.
BHX loses a flight - KL1423 which is the 10.15-10.45 arrival but KL1421, 31 & 35 are 800's. Disappointingly 1425 is an F70 and if had been a 190 BHX would have been up.
It is only about 30 seats down a day on last winter and this loss will be dwarfed by flybe's increase of 40 seats per flight when the 195 starts on all three weekday flights.
Manchester goes from 6 to 5 as does EDI, Glasgow from 5 to 4 and Heathrow has seven Hoppers (2 x 190 & 5 x F70) our f 12 flights
Pete
KLM
Not so good news as KLM seem to be slashing winter capacity across the UK.
BHX loses a flight - KL1423 which is the 10.15-10.45 arrival but KL1421, 31 & 35 are 800's. Disappointingly 1425 is an F70 and if had been a 190 BHX would have been up.
It is only about 30 seats down a day on last winter and this loss will be dwarfed by flybe's increase of 40 seats per flight when the 195 starts on all three weekday flights.
Manchester goes from 6 to 5 as does EDI, Glasgow from 5 to 4 and Heathrow has seven Hoppers (2 x 190 & 5 x F70) our f 12 flights
Pete