BIRMINGHAM - 6

[OltonPete]

EK

groundhogbhx

Cheers, the EK source still showing BV and CB as 442, when did they change?

I know it can be a little out of date at times but BX & BZ were amended recently leaving jsut BV and CB.

Unfortunately it hasn't altered the load factor still 81% but not too far behind Manchester and they are talking about a 4th.

Pete

[bazzab68]

Bhx - Billund to be announced!

All

Taken from twitter and scheduled to be announced later today is the bhx- Bll is
due for re-instatement. No airline is mentioned but u can guess at Bmi Regional
in place of there moved Tls flight.

@TheHUBRoutes: From #RoutesAsia in Mumbai we can exclusively bring news of new
route announcement from @bhx_official due later today... a link to Billund.

Regards

Barry

[future_pilot17]

All sounds good! Hopefully it all works out for bmi on this front.

I also notice on the same twitter feed, this post....

"Deepak Brara, Commercial Director, Air India reveals plans for new flights to
Australia, Italy & second point in the UK during #RoutesAsia."

Interesting, even if it is all talk. Do you suspect he's talking about a return
to BHX or heading further north? Either way I suspect they are the only two
options.

Tom

[GayFriendly]

BLL

NEW ROUTE: BHX-BLL

Now bookable on BMI website as follows, starts 3rd June:

BHX 0700 BLL 0940 BM1451 Mon-Fri
BLL 1010 BHX 1100 BM1452 Mon-Fri

And an afternoon departure on Sundays

These of course were the TLS flight times before they were changed a couple of weeks ago

I really hope things work out for BMI Regional @ BHX. They have added four new routes for the airport this summer which is very positive news, they must see potential in BHX. I'm flying to LYS with them in May and TLS in August.

Sadly no mention of BHX on the AI site just yet.......

[LAX_LHR]

Deepak Brara, Commercial Director, Air India reveals plans for new flights toAustralia, Italy & second point in the UK during #RoutesAsia."

Interesting, even if it is all talk. Do you suspect he's talking about a return
to BHX or heading further north? Either way I suspect they are the only two
options.

Whilst I fully expect it to be BHX, especially if they market an ATQ-DEL-BHX same plane flight, it could go either way.

Both AI and 9W bigwigs have had several meetings and 'tours' of MAN in the past 6 months (9W likely to be the series of charter flights they have coming up), the market for DEL is actually larger at MAN than BHX (ATQ is BHX's market), and that is AI's main hub.

Like I say, fully expect BHX, but give they were looking to hub at DUB at one point, who knows what AI will come up with, they will probably end up at Dundee!

[Centre cities]

India

My penny is on nothing anywhere.

Centre cities

[ATNotts]

And my Rupee is on whichever airport has enough postal votes in any upcoming Indian election to swing the "Punjab Central" seat the government's way!!

[Suzeman]

Here's the AI article

Air India Set for International Network Growth :: Routesonline

[Planeaddict]

"Taken from twitter and scheduled to be announced later today is the bhx- Bll is
due for re-instatement. No airline is mentioned but u can guess at Bmi Regional
in place of there moved Tls flight."

Have they served there before?

And regarding AI, I think there are three options. BHX, MAN and possibly DUB.

[hammerb32]

DUB's not in the UK so would dubt it, has to be either MAN or BHX if indeed a second city is served.

[VickersVicount]

the article says Europe not just UK so DUB is equally within a chance

[OltonPete]

Billund

As BMIR have announced the launch of the above route I thought I would take a look at the past figures.

It appears BMIR will be the 4th different airline to attempt the route.

I have New Air until 1997, then Sun Air from April 2005 until June 2007 and finally Ryanair from June 2008 until early November 2009.

In 2009 Ryanair carried 32888 at average of 120 pax or 63% load factor

Sunair carried

2007 - 2091 pax at 13 per flight
2006 - 4372 pax at 12 per flight
2005 - 3619 pax at 14 per flight

I can't remember the aircraft type

New Air carried

1997 - 4638
1996 - 5467
1995 - 5812

Source: CAA

Certainly interesting and before Oslo.

Peter

[groundhogbhx]

I'm sure the Sunair was an ATP in BA colours.

[Ringwayman]

Found articles stating Sunair planned on operating 6 weekly Do328s.

The Newair service did either BLL-MAN-BHX-BLL or BLL-BHX-MAN-BLL using F27. with flight number NAW425

[roverman]

Air India

The article says 'a second stop in the UK' (not Europe, although Italy is also mentioned) and so it can only be MAN or BHX, can't see anywhere else having the market.

[j636]

Add MUC, DUB and LGW to Air India rumours.

European airports woo Indian airlines | Business Standard

[Daza]

BHX is UKs most punctual airport

Birmingham was the UKs most punctual airport in the last quarter of 2012. Both scheduled and charter flights on-time performance was significantly above the national average. Source CAA
See the link below.

Birmingham is the UK's Most Punctual Airport - Birmingham Airport

Daza

[OltonPete]

Ryanair

A prompt from the LDY thread produced some goodies

Quite a few additions and although some are only August a couple are as early as June.

Obviously determined not to let Monarch muscle in on Barcelona too much as Ryanair's four a week service now goes six a week from the first week in June until the last week in August - just 13 weekly flights in high summer to BCN!

One I never understood why it has never happened in previous years on a Thursday after MJV - BHX is BHX-LDY. It could have done that the last two years.

Arrecife also sees an increase in August with a 4th weekly flight operated from the ACE base on a Sunday in at 11.20 out 11.45.

One other change is the last Dublin on a Saturday operates from the BHX base departing at 20.25 changing from a Dublin based aircraft.

Already known extras: -

Friday Alicante 17.30-17.55 July and August

Friday Faro 11.20-11.45 August only

Saturday Malaga 17.25-17.50 August only

In August it makes 42 away based flights which is at least is the equivalent of two extra based aircraft

Dublin 18
Barcelona 5
Malaga 5
Faro 4
Palma 3
Alicante 3
Bergamo 2
Girona 1
Arrecife 1

Pete

[FlyboyUK]

Cheers for another informative update, so what's the schedule looking like for the BHX based aircraft?

[FRatSTN]

Below is the entire weekly timetable for FR flights from BHX for August 2013:

MONDAY
FR662 07:30 Dublin
FR2812 12:30 Montpellier
FR3902 13:50 Malta
FR9162 14:20 Barcelona
FR3742 15:40 Fuerteventura
FR1109 15:45 Londonderry
FR1449 16:00 Lanzarote
FR666 16:25 Dublin
FR2153 20:55 Alicante
FR672 22:00 Dublin
FR1254 22:05 Katowice
FR2155 22:50 Murcia
FR2157 23:35 Malaga

FR3901 06:25 Malta
FR3741 06:35 Fuerteventura
FR1448 07:00 Lanzarote
FR663 07:55 Dublin
FR2811 08:10 Montpellier
FR1108 12:55 Londonderry
FR9163 14:45 Barcelona
FR2152 14:50 Alicante
FR1253 16:35 Katowice
FR667 16:50 Dublin
FR2154 17:05 Murcia
FR2156 17:10 Malaga
FR673 22:25 Dublin


TUESDAY
FR662 07:30 Dublin
FR2163 08:35 Palma de Mallorca
FR2157 08:55 Malaga
FR1464 09:40 Milan-Bergamo
FR1999 11:30 Perpignan
FR3712 11:35 Faro
FR749 11:50 Gdansk
FR9162 12:40 Barcelona
FR666 14:45 Dublin
FR2153 14:50 Alicante
FR1122 16:40 Tenerife-South
FR9474 16:45 Barcelona-Girona
FR2712 21:05 Ibiza
FR672 21:40 Dublin
FR735 22:50 Bratislava
FR1213 23:05 Bydgoszcz
FR2155 23:50 Murcia

FR748 06:30 Gdansk
FR1998 06:50 Perpignan
FR1121 07:15 Tenerife-South
FR663 07:55 Dublin
FR2152 08:45 Alicante
FR2162 09:00 Palma de Mallorca
FR2156 09:35 Malaga
FR1463 10:05 Milan-Bergamo
FR9473 11:55 Barcelona-Girona
FR3711 12:00 Faro
FR9163 13:05 Barcelona
FR667 15:10 Dublin
FR2711 15:10 Ibiza
FR734 17:25 Bratislava
FR1212 17:55 Bydgoszcz
FR2154 17:55 Murcia
FR673 22:05 Dublin


WEDNESDAY
FR662 07:30 Dublin
FR2157 08:25 Malaga
FR1083 11:05 Barcelona-Reus
FR1215 13:40 Kaunas
FR2163 14:45 Palma de Mallorca
FR9162 16:00 Barcelona
FR1129 16:05 Gran Canaria
FR666 16:25 Dublin
FR1449 16:40 Lanzarote
FR1466 16:45 Krakow
FR1109 17:20 Londonderry
FR672 22:00 Dublin
FR1254 23:05 Katowice
FR2150 23:15 Alicante
FR1085 23:45 Rzeszow
FR2153 23:50 Alicante

FR1082 06:10 Barcelona-Reus
FR1128 06:45 Gran Canaria
FR1214 07:30 Kaunas
FR1448 07:40 Lanzarote
FR663 07:55 Dublin
FR2156 09:05 Malaga
FR1465 11:30 Krakow
FR1108 14:30 Londonderry
FR2162 15:10 Palma de Mallorca
FR9163 16:25 Barcelona
FR667 16:50 Dublin
FR2151 17:10 Alicante
FR1253 17:35 Katowice
FR1084 17:45 Rzeszow
FR2152 17:45 Alicante
FR673 22:25 Dublin


THURSDAY
FR662 07:30 Dublin
FR2157 09:05 Malaga
FR3712 11:35 Faro
FR9162 12:05 Barcelona
FR2163 12:10 Palma de Mallorca
FR1464 12:40 Milan-Bergamo
FR666 13:30 Dublin
FR2712 13:30 Ibiza
FR1122 16:45 Tenerife-South
FR1097 17:00 Trieste
FR2155 19:05 Murcia
FR2153 20:35 Alicante
FR1109 22:20 Londonderry
FR672 21:40 Dublin
FR1213 23:05 Bydgoszcz
FR735 23:55 Bratislava

FR2162 06:35 Palma de Mallorca
FR1121 07:20 Tenerife-South
FR2711 07:35 Ibiza
FR663 07:55 Dublin
FR2156 09:45 Malaga
FR3711 12:00 Faro
FR1096 12:05 Trieste
FR9163 12:30 Barcelona
FR1463 13:05 Milan-Bergamo
FR2154 13:20 Murcia
FR667 13:55 Dublin
FR2152 14:30 Alicante
FR1212 17:55 Bydgoszcz
FR734 18:30 Bratislava
FR1108 19:30 Londonderry
FR673 22:05 Dublin


FRIDAY
FR662 07:30 Dublin
FR3712 11:20 Faro
FR1254 12:00 Katowice
FR2153 12:25 Alicante
FR1109 15:45 Londonderry
FR1449 16:10 Lanzarote
FR666 16:25 Dublin
FR3742 17:00 Fuerteventura
FR2150 17:30 Alicante
FR1083 17:40 Barcelona-Reus
FR672 22:00 Dublin
FR2812 22:25 Montpellier
FR9162 23:15 Barcelona
FR2157 23:25 Malaga
FR3902 23:59 Malta

FR2152 06:20 Alicante
FR1253 06:30 Katowice
FR1448 07:10 Lanzarote
FR663 07:55 Dublin
FR3741 07:55 Fuerteventura
FR3711 11:45 Faro
FR1082 12:45 Barcelona-Reus
FR1108 12:55 Londonderry
FR3901 16:35 Malta
FR667 16:50 Dublin
FR2156 17:00 Malaga
FR2151 17:55 Alicante
FR2811 18:05 Montpellier
FR9163 18:05 Barcelona
FR673 22:25 Dublin


SATURDAY
FR662 07:30 Dublin
FR9474 08:00 Barcelona-Girona
FR749 11:50 Gdansk
FR1464 13:05 Milan-Bergamo
FR2155 13:45 Murcia
FR1122 16:10 Tenerife-South
FR2257 17:25 Malaga
FR1999 17:30 Perpignan
FR666 18:05 Dublin
FR3712 18:55 Faro
FR2163 19:35 Palma de Mallorca
FR2153 20:00 Alicante
FR672 23:00 Dublin
FR1213 23:05 Bydgoszcz
FR2157 23:35 Malaga
FR735 23:55 Bratislava

FR748 06:30 Gdansk
FR1121 06:45 Tenerife-South
FR1463 07:00 Milan-Bergamo
FR2154 07:45 Murcia
FR663 07:55 Dublin
FR9473 08:25 Barcelona-Girona
FR1998 12:50 Perpignan
FR2152 13:55 Alicante
FR667 15:30 Dublin
FR2156 17:10 Malaga
FR2256 17:50 Malaga
FR1212 17:55 Bydgoszcz
FR734 18:30 Bratislava
FR3711 19:20 Faro
FR2162 20:00 Palma de Mallorca
FR673 20:25 Dublin


SUNDAY
FR662 07:30 Dublin
FR2157 09:15 Malaga
FR1449 11:20 Lanzarote
FR1215 12:35 Kaunas
FR1085 12:45 Rzeszow
FR2163 13:55 Palma de Mallorca
FR9162 15:50 Barcelona
FR1129 16:10 Gran Canaria
FR1097 18:20 Trieste
FR1466 19:35 Krakow
FR2153 19:35 Alicante
FR2712 21:05 Ibiza
FR672 21:40 Dublin
FR1109 22:50 Londonderry
FR2150 23:20 Alicante
FR1083 23:40 Barcelona-Reus

FR1214 06:25 Kaunas
FR1084 06:40 Rzeszow
FR1128 06:50 Gran Canaria
FR663 07:55 Dublin
FR2162 08:20 Palma de Mallorca
FR2156 09:55 Malaga
FR1448 11:45 Lanzarote
FR1096 13:25 Trieste
FR1465 14:20 Krakow
FR2711 15:00 Ibiza
FR9163 16:20 Barcelona
FR2151 17:15 Alicante
FR1082 18:45 Barcelona-Reus
FR1108 20:00 Londonderry
FR2152 20:00 Alicante
FR673 22:05 Dublin

Based aircraft: 4
Destinations: 27
Total weekly flights: 218 (109 arr/109 dep)