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Monarch/Ryanair
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The Monarch April strategy has been an eye-opener and totally at odds to FR at BHX and EMA and Jet2 at EMA (can't say for other airports).
I actually actually questioned this policy months ago with Monarch and as you would guess I got a curt reply but at least they responded. It probably seems a bit disengenerous when they are increasing their flights nearly 100% overnight between the 30th April and 1st May.
My reasoning was behind the fact that the local school holidays due to the differing dates used by various local authorities resulted in quite a long booking window from 22/3 to 16/4 leaving only a brief "quiet" period before May. A couple extra flights were added (Faro) but overall the schedule remained as per the first release less one Friday Tenerife, one less Munich and one less Grenoble.
I too have seen some eye-watering fares one included Malaga at one way £351 although to be fair other dates around it are much lower and that is probably the last seat on the aircraft.
Obviously gone for quality (yield) rather than quantity (bums on seats) and nothing wrong with that if it works. They flatly denied that they were protecting the EMA base as if you add the flights from the two Midlands bases some routes had similar frequencies to last April from BHX alone.
Hotel Tango
It came across that they had a enough trouble raising the money for the bit that is being built!
Pete
The Monarch April strategy has been an eye-opener and totally at odds to FR at BHX and EMA and Jet2 at EMA (can't say for other airports).
I actually actually questioned this policy months ago with Monarch and as you would guess I got a curt reply but at least they responded. It probably seems a bit disengenerous when they are increasing their flights nearly 100% overnight between the 30th April and 1st May.
My reasoning was behind the fact that the local school holidays due to the differing dates used by various local authorities resulted in quite a long booking window from 22/3 to 16/4 leaving only a brief "quiet" period before May. A couple extra flights were added (Faro) but overall the schedule remained as per the first release less one Friday Tenerife, one less Munich and one less Grenoble.
I too have seen some eye-watering fares one included Malaga at one way £351 although to be fair other dates around it are much lower and that is probably the last seat on the aircraft.
Obviously gone for quality (yield) rather than quantity (bums on seats) and nothing wrong with that if it works. They flatly denied that they were protecting the EMA base as if you add the flights from the two Midlands bases some routes had similar frequencies to last April from BHX alone.
Hotel Tango
It came across that they had a enough trouble raising the money for the bit that is being built!
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FlyBe related question for Olton Pete
Olton Pete, as the expert with schedules etc., are you able to tell me if FlyBe will be using the DHC-8 or the EMB on the SUNDAY afternoon DUS in July.
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The Sunday afternoon BHX-DUS is by the E75 in July. There's a way to find out: using its website, do a dummy booking and look at the scheduled aircraft's seat map. If it has 21 rows it's by the DH4, 23 by the E75, and 31 by the E95.
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G-JNHP is spot on but there are a couple of other ways to find out as well and that is on the flybe website via the connections timetable (can be awkward depending on the type of device you are using) with the other is the website amadeus.net, which is fairly accurate due to the link with the participating airlines and their websites.
The Q400 is now only scheduled on the Sun-Thu DUS night-stop service (Mon-Fri BHX arrival) now that Saturday has disappeared from the schedule (I missed that one).
Turkish Airlines
Today saw the first double daily operation on a regular basis with the morning even upgraded to the A321. Thursday and Sunday are the other days of operation as double daily.
At the present time, the frequencies are maintained into the winter schedule.
Pete
G-JNHP is spot on but there are a couple of other ways to find out as well and that is on the flybe website via the connections timetable (can be awkward depending on the type of device you are using) with the other is the website amadeus.net, which is fairly accurate due to the link with the participating airlines and their websites.
The Q400 is now only scheduled on the Sun-Thu DUS night-stop service (Mon-Fri BHX arrival) now that Saturday has disappeared from the schedule (I missed that one).
Turkish Airlines
Today saw the first double daily operation on a regular basis with the morning even upgraded to the A321. Thursday and Sunday are the other days of operation as double daily.
At the present time, the frequencies are maintained into the winter schedule.
Pete
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RAF VC10 does a touch and go at Birmingham Airport. - YouTube (yesterday)
And TK have increased their service to 10 weekly. That's what's on the playing field at the moment.
Turns out PIA are relaunching Chicago, via Barcelona. Seems only 10 years ago when they were flying via BHX. Oh wait, it was
And TK have increased their service to 10 weekly. That's what's on the playing field at the moment.
Turns out PIA are relaunching Chicago, via Barcelona. Seems only 10 years ago when they were flying via BHX. Oh wait, it was
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The tour operator Transat ( T.TRZ.B ) could imitate his rival Sunwing and use of aircraft and foreign pilots over the next few years.
The Montreal-based company confirmed Thursday that it will integrate its fleet of narrow-body Boeing 737, and, starting next year. Transat does not renew the contract of affreightment devices of this size it had reached in 2009 with Canjet, a Halifax company.
This "internalization" however, should not create jobs at Transat, as pilots and flight attendants will be assigned to the Boeing 737 currently working in the widebody A310 and A330 of the company, whose number is expected to decrease in the coming years.
For cons, the seasonal layoffs should be less important in the future, said a spokesman for Transat, Debbie Cabana, during a telephone interview.
The Boeing 737 Transat connect Canadian cities to destinations in Mexico, the Caribbean and Florida.
Some of the new Boeing 737 fleet will be integrated permanently and another will be a seasonal basis, in winter, when demand is high for these destinations. Ultimately, Transat expects to have five small permanent carriers and six aircraft in winter.
By 2015, Transat expects that the number of A310 and A330 in its fleet from 21 to 16, a decline that was mainly due to the willingness of the company to reduce its ability to increase profitability .
If demand warrants, Transat may however increase the number of large carriers in its fleet involving foreign companies offering rental equipment and crews for specified durations.
Transat borrow and, at least in part, the strategy adopted by Sunwing, whose flights are largely carried out by aircraft and foreign pilots.
Transat has yet challenged in the regulators of this practice Sunwing.
To integrate the Boeing 737 to its fleet, Transat has recently drawn concessions to its employees. Some 1700 flight attendants and the company have agreed to concessions nonwage valued at $ 9 million per year. The number of attendants in the A330 from 11 to 10.
According to the company, the internalization of small carriers should result in savings of approximately $ 8 million in 2013, $ 15 million in 2014 and $ 30 million per year from 2015.
Remember Air Canada ( T.AC.B ) will launch this summer its new low-cost carrier, Red, targeting the market currently dominated by Transat.
Financial analysts who follow our activities Transat have welcomed the changes announced Thursday by the company.
The action Transat gained 3.2 percent Thursday to close at $ 4.85, the Toronto Stock Exchange.
The tour operator Transat ( T.TRZ.B ) could imitate his rival Sunwing and use of aircraft and foreign pilots over the next few years.
The Montreal-based company confirmed Thursday that it will integrate its fleet of narrow-body Boeing 737, and, starting next year. Transat does not renew the contract of affreightment devices of this size it had reached in 2009 with Canjet, a Halifax company.
This "internalization" however, should not create jobs at Transat, as pilots and flight attendants will be assigned to the Boeing 737 currently working in the widebody A310 and A330 of the company, whose number is expected to decrease in the coming years.
For cons, the seasonal layoffs should be less important in the future, said a spokesman for Transat, Debbie Cabana, during a telephone interview.
The Boeing 737 Transat connect Canadian cities to destinations in Mexico, the Caribbean and Florida.
Some of the new Boeing 737 fleet will be integrated permanently and another will be a seasonal basis, in winter, when demand is high for these destinations. Ultimately, Transat expects to have five small permanent carriers and six aircraft in winter.
By 2015, Transat expects that the number of A310 and A330 in its fleet from 21 to 16, a decline that was mainly due to the willingness of the company to reduce its ability to increase profitability .
If demand warrants, Transat may however increase the number of large carriers in its fleet involving foreign companies offering rental equipment and crews for specified durations.
Transat borrow and, at least in part, the strategy adopted by Sunwing, whose flights are largely carried out by aircraft and foreign pilots.
Transat has yet challenged in the regulators of this practice Sunwing.
To integrate the Boeing 737 to its fleet, Transat has recently drawn concessions to its employees. Some 1700 flight attendants and the company have agreed to concessions nonwage valued at $ 9 million per year. The number of attendants in the A330 from 11 to 10.
According to the company, the internalization of small carriers should result in savings of approximately $ 8 million in 2013, $ 15 million in 2014 and $ 30 million per year from 2015.
Remember Air Canada ( T.AC.B ) will launch this summer its new low-cost carrier, Red, targeting the market currently dominated by Transat.
Financial analysts who follow our activities Transat have welcomed the changes announced Thursday by the company.
The action Transat gained 3.2 percent Thursday to close at $ 4.85, the Toronto Stock Exchange.
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Germanwings
Following dates for the switch from LH to Germanwings ex BHX:
27OCT13 TXL-BHX
29JAN14 HAM-BHX
DUS-BHX will follow later in 2014.
http://www.lufthansa.com/mediapool/j...ng%20%28jpg%29
27OCT13 TXL-BHX
29JAN14 HAM-BHX
DUS-BHX will follow later in 2014.
http://www.lufthansa.com/mediapool/j...ng%20%28jpg%29
BHX/VIE - Viable?
A colleague returned from Vienna to BHX yesterday evening, and was, apparently one of 10 connecting over Brussels!
This might be exceptional, but I would have though that this might be an ideal route for BMI Regional or FlyBe on a five/six day per week, based upon that sort of load, and the fact that it is essentially a point to point destination rather than a major hub.
I would certainly give it a better chance of success than Lyon or Billund.
This might be exceptional, but I would have though that this might be an ideal route for BMI Regional or FlyBe on a five/six day per week, based upon that sort of load, and the fact that it is essentially a point to point destination rather than a major hub.
I would certainly give it a better chance of success than Lyon or Billund.
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VIE
Vienna is indeed a major hole in the list of destinations ex-BHX, regularly using Swiss via ZRH to get to VIE, and when going via FRA/MUC/DUS also often have familiar faces on both flights each way. CAA doesn't publish final destination statistics, or do they? That would make an interesting read.
BHX-VIE was certainly served by Duo, but I can't remember it being more than daily.
Any BMI Regional or FlyBe operation would need to be pitched primarily at the business market, much as BHX/STR is now. You're not going to make a bean filling E145s or E175s with city-break traffic.
Any BMI Regional or FlyBe operation would need to be pitched primarily at the business market, much as BHX/STR is now. You're not going to make a bean filling E145s or E175s with city-break traffic.
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March pax down 0.8%
Per the CAA BHX 625741 -08% rolling year 8908430 +3.7
Movements (and the reason why) 6140 -7% - rolling 82953 +0.3
Disappointing but Baby were going strong by the last week of March last year and Monarch just cut-back from their normal schedule on most routes.
If you want to look on the bright side you would have to say medium to long-haul picked up with Islamabad over 11000 just 500 short of the Heathrow figure, Emirates was down but a heavy 45K, United was up slightly as was Turkmen.
Business routes were either just up or down on the whole except Swiss due to the 33% cut in flights and Stuttgart (50% cut in flights).
Turkish was up 21% but it was daily compared to 5 a week in 2012.
easyjet Belfast was 11712 which was over 70% load factor.
Pete
Movements (and the reason why) 6140 -7% - rolling 82953 +0.3
Disappointing but Baby were going strong by the last week of March last year and Monarch just cut-back from their normal schedule on most routes.
If you want to look on the bright side you would have to say medium to long-haul picked up with Islamabad over 11000 just 500 short of the Heathrow figure, Emirates was down but a heavy 45K, United was up slightly as was Turkmen.
Business routes were either just up or down on the whole except Swiss due to the 33% cut in flights and Stuttgart (50% cut in flights).
Turkish was up 21% but it was daily compared to 5 a week in 2012.
easyjet Belfast was 11712 which was over 70% load factor.
Pete
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TOM @ BHX
TUI have confirmed today through a press release that TOM will operate from BHX to Sicily in summer 2014. Doesn't say which airport but I assume to be Catania, which I think appeared in the BHX drop down list of lfights last year but was never loaded.
Not sure if already mentioned but BHX-MBJ looks to be operating all through winter 2013-14, I think it stopped for a while this winter just gone?
Not sure if already mentioned but BHX-MBJ looks to be operating all through winter 2013-14, I think it stopped for a while this winter just gone?
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I can confirm Cantania made it to more than the drop-down as I was interested in using it until I saw the prices. I know it is hardly a bucket and spade route but I could have quite comfotably got a week in Dubai for the same price if you like that sort of thing and I paid less for a week in Orlando (minus passes).
I know you have to pay for a bit of quality but I hope it is priced a little bit more reasonable this time round.
I still think a loco could do it at low frequency, summer only.
Almeria is obviously on the up with Thomas Cook using their own aircraft on one flight this summer as well as the Sunday flybe plus twice weekly ZB.
Spot on re MBJ, it has not run through the winter for several years now. Added to Sanford operating longer (third week in November) it is not a bad winter schedule.
Still if it is two 738's this summer with three 221 seat 757's it looks like at least 15000 fewer seats over the summer at present although I think the number of flights are slightly up. Will check those numbers though.
Pete
I can confirm Cantania made it to more than the drop-down as I was interested in using it until I saw the prices. I know it is hardly a bucket and spade route but I could have quite comfotably got a week in Dubai for the same price if you like that sort of thing and I paid less for a week in Orlando (minus passes).
I know you have to pay for a bit of quality but I hope it is priced a little bit more reasonable this time round.
I still think a loco could do it at low frequency, summer only.
Almeria is obviously on the up with Thomas Cook using their own aircraft on one flight this summer as well as the Sunday flybe plus twice weekly ZB.
Spot on re MBJ, it has not run through the winter for several years now. Added to Sanford operating longer (third week in November) it is not a bad winter schedule.
Still if it is two 738's this summer with three 221 seat 757's it looks like at least 15000 fewer seats over the summer at present although I think the number of flights are slightly up. Will check those numbers though.
Pete