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Thomas cook long haul.
Thomas cook to start BHX-MCO non stop Easter 2014 on an A330. Unsure of schedule or when will go on sale. If bookings are strong it should continue into the summer. It's good to see an increase on this route at last. Would have thought Virgin may have tried it. They seem to do extremely well on this route from MAN and LGW. Maybe Thomson will react by upgrading their aircraft type to a 787 next year? 787s battery issues seems to be resolved now by the FAA so hopefully they will be back in the air within a week.
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Splash and dash,
Thomas Cook have removed from their online brochure their Easter 1 off Orlando flt from BHX yesterday, could either mean its full, or its chopped, hopefully the former.
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Thomas Cook have removed from their online brochure their Easter 1 off Orlando flt from BHX yesterday, could either mean its full, or its chopped, hopefully the former.
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Much as i'm sure Nigel we would all like it to be the former, I am fairly sure a year ahead it's the latter. No evidence of it on TCX website at all despite a lot of searching. Doesn't mean it won't come back though. SFB is underserved from BHX. Trouble is, for a few years now Orlando charter and scheduled capacity increases seem to have been focused on LGW, MAN and GLA. Unfortunately for BHX it is sandwiched between two of those!
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As in Newcastle between Manchester and Glasgow. Airlines are missing a trick at Birmingham and Newcastle in this respect. The market would be far larger with more direct flights being made by people who cannot be bothered to go to other airports but want to fly from their local airport.
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Per GDS BHX - LYS by BMI Regional has been reduced from 6 to 3 a week before it starts. Website still shows six a week on a header but the dates I checked it was only bookable Monday, Friday and Sunday.
Smart move in one sense and hopefully by September another new route will be chosen and Lyon left to flybe.
Disappointing that Monarch is 4 x 321's and 5 x 320's but still a hefty increase in May, June and July but August set to be well down at present, as ZB operated 8 with Baby 4 in 2012 and this year it will be 9 Monarch with a few extra FR, BE but Thomson and Thomas Cook will be similar or a bit down.
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Per GDS BHX - LYS by BMI Regional has been reduced from 6 to 3 a week before it starts. Website still shows six a week on a header but the dates I checked it was only bookable Monday, Friday and Sunday.
Smart move in one sense and hopefully by September another new route will be chosen and Lyon left to flybe.
Disappointing that Monarch is 4 x 321's and 5 x 320's but still a hefty increase in May, June and July but August set to be well down at present, as ZB operated 8 with Baby 4 in 2012 and this year it will be 9 Monarch with a few extra FR, BE but Thomson and Thomas Cook will be similar or a bit down.
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Gayfriendly,
It was really weird them advertising the one off April 2014 flight,then to remove it 3 weeks later. Certainly won't be lack of interest, our feeble 1 flt a week is almost filled within weeks each year !
Remember the bizarr situation last year with Canadian Affair, advertising a 2nd YYZ flt from BHX with a Monarch plane when no other airport was down for them..this was removed on the 2nd draft of the brochure..
Seems BHX must be a unique airport in the wrong way ? !
In a few days we will know for sure, but not holding my breath now although rumours of a TCX Orlando next summer persist..not sure what on though ?
Nigel
It was really weird them advertising the one off April 2014 flight,then to remove it 3 weeks later. Certainly won't be lack of interest, our feeble 1 flt a week is almost filled within weeks each year !
Remember the bizarr situation last year with Canadian Affair, advertising a 2nd YYZ flt from BHX with a Monarch plane when no other airport was down for them..this was removed on the 2nd draft of the brochure..
Seems BHX must be a unique airport in the wrong way ? !
In a few days we will know for sure, but not holding my breath now although rumours of a TCX Orlando next summer persist..not sure what on though ?
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Nigel I wasn't aware of that. Like you said hopefully its the former? Curious why they have taken it off their website unless its just a 1 off charter?
Ref, BHX and NCL, yes there are huge gaps in between GLA, MAN and LGW with millions of people a fair old drive away who want to go to SFB, so I agree it's a bit of strange one why there aren't more flights from here. Then again, if the demand is overwhelming surely TOM would put on extra flights? Unless its lack of 767s?
Ref, BHX and NCL, yes there are huge gaps in between GLA, MAN and LGW with millions of people a fair old drive away who want to go to SFB, so I agree it's a bit of strange one why there aren't more flights from here. Then again, if the demand is overwhelming surely TOM would put on extra flights? Unless its lack of 767s?
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Air india at Birmingham
Looks like Air India rumours continue and according to the Times of India the second UK destination seems to be Delhi-Birmingham. Link below
Air India plans to connect New Delhi with international routes this year - The Times of India
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Air India plans to connect New Delhi with international routes this year - The Times of India
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Re Air India Delhi- BHX.
The rumours of a possible BHX link won't go away. Its the 3rd separate article in the business press that I have read on it.
However Delhi is not currently reachable direct off BHX present runway length ,but will be no problem when our runway extension opens next year.
So if it is this year then the bit saying "airports like Birmingham" could mean Manchester, which has a higher proportion of residents emanating from the Delhi area.
I am hopeful it means BHX though !
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Re Air India Delhi- BHX.
The rumours of a possible BHX link won't go away. Its the 3rd separate article in the business press that I have read on it.
However Delhi is not currently reachable direct off BHX present runway length ,but will be no problem when our runway extension opens next year.
So if it is this year then the bit saying "airports like Birmingham" could mean Manchester, which has a higher proportion of residents emanating from the Delhi area.
I am hopeful it means BHX though !
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Nigel.
You are assuming that the flight is direct.An intermediate stop at Amritsar(ATQ)
Which is how the previous service operated could be a possibility.Also if the 787
is cleared for services would that not be able to do Delhi non-stop?
Talking of rumours,has anybody else seen the Ryanair thread lately.
A posting yesterday suggested the first long haul RYR flights will be London,
Birmingham International to New York and Halifax.
I remember it being mooted that RYR were interested in long haul but am not aware that anything was set in stone,nor if any relevant aircraft have or are being acquired.Can anyone shed any light on this or is it just the usual rumour
mill doing it's stuff again.
You are assuming that the flight is direct.An intermediate stop at Amritsar(ATQ)
Which is how the previous service operated could be a possibility.Also if the 787
is cleared for services would that not be able to do Delhi non-stop?
Talking of rumours,has anybody else seen the Ryanair thread lately.
A posting yesterday suggested the first long haul RYR flights will be London,
Birmingham International to New York and Halifax.
I remember it being mooted that RYR were interested in long haul but am not aware that anything was set in stone,nor if any relevant aircraft have or are being acquired.Can anyone shed any light on this or is it just the usual rumour
mill doing it's stuff again.
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A posting yesterday suggested the first long haul RYR flights will be
London,Birmingham International to New York and Halifax
London,Birmingham International to New York and Halifax
It was taking the pee, saying that they would advertise BHX as London, and Halifax (Canada) as New York.
It was not a suggestion of services from BHX and London.
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Would BHX-DEL direct not depend on the equipment used? It's not a whole lot further than ATQ and the B777-200LRs are being redeployed, I suspect that amount of power could get there easily as they're hardly going to be stuffed with cargo?
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Would BHX-DEL direct not depend on the equipment used?
I wonder if AI actually opted for BHX in the first place, or have they been forced to settle for it with all these Jet/Etihad/MAN rumours.
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Nope even the 787 needs over 9,000ft to destinations of that length.Which is why I said it would need to be next year if direct.
Amritsar doesn't have a long haul base, that is an additional issue unless its bolted on.
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Nope even the 787 needs over 9,000ft to destinations of that length.Which is why I said it would need to be next year if direct.
Amritsar doesn't have a long haul base, that is an additional issue unless its bolted on.
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You can't compare flying to Dubai against Delhi.. 7hrs to Dubai and 9 hours to Delhi
!! = more fuel required = more runway length
China pattern
You make a good point.. have Jet chosen MAN forcing AI to BHX ?
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You can't compare flying to Dubai against Delhi.. 7hrs to Dubai and 9 hours to Delhi
!! = more fuel required = more runway length China pattern
You make a good point.. have Jet chosen MAN forcing AI to BHX ?
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TOM @ BHX 2014
I know a year is a long time (we have barely started this summer season!) but according to Thomson Faraway Shores online brochure (updated today I believe) from 18/7/14 BHX-MBJ and BHX-CUN are scheduled for the Dreamliner, Fri to MBJ and Sat to CUN, they are both 767 operated from May-Jul '14.
In Summer Sun brochure, Montenegro available from BHX in 2014 but sadly flights are to DBV with coach transfer. I have just been on holiday there, it's a stunningly beautiful country.
Looks like Sal has been chopped but Boa Vista still operates weekly
Pula is twice weekly
MLA flights stay with KM (weekly on Tues)
CTA operates weekly May-Sept on a Sunday
RAK contnues weekly
In Summer Sun brochure, Montenegro available from BHX in 2014 but sadly flights are to DBV with coach transfer. I have just been on holiday there, it's a stunningly beautiful country.
Looks like Sal has been chopped but Boa Vista still operates weekly
Pula is twice weekly
MLA flights stay with KM (weekly on Tues)
CTA operates weekly May-Sept on a Sunday
RAK contnues weekly
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You can't compare flying to Dubai against Delhi.. 7hrs to Dubai and 9 hours to Delhi !! = more fuel required = more runway length
Consider : Travel Distance Calculator and Map between World Cities
BHX-ATQ 3983.15 miles
BHX-DEL 4230.80 miles
247 miles isn't the difference between a non-ER B777-200 which used to fly the former route and a B787 needing 9000 ft for the latter.
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Thats how I read it plus three Jetairfly Palma's on Thursday, Sunday and Monday instead of Thomson aircraft but two Tuesday flights? This would quite a decrease on 2012 as all were 235 seat 757's.
The Dreamliner schedule I assume is being loaded as I can't believe Sanford remains as a 763 when the other two long-haul are 787's from 18/7.
LAX_LHR
Munich at the weekend has been twice daily for about five years. I could see it dropping to two Saturday outbounds, one in and vice versa on a Sunday especially as you have posted on the MAN thread the LH Saturday night flight is not operating.
KLM
738 back on the night-stop in winter but F70 lunchtime
SAS
Stockholm only bookable until the week before Christmas
Pete
Thats how I read it plus three Jetairfly Palma's on Thursday, Sunday and Monday instead of Thomson aircraft but two Tuesday flights? This would quite a decrease on 2012 as all were 235 seat 757's.
The Dreamliner schedule I assume is being loaded as I can't believe Sanford remains as a 763 when the other two long-haul are 787's from 18/7.
LAX_LHR
Munich at the weekend has been twice daily for about five years. I could see it dropping to two Saturday outbounds, one in and vice versa on a Sunday especially as you have posted on the MAN thread the LH Saturday night flight is not operating.
KLM
738 back on the night-stop in winter but F70 lunchtime
SAS
Stockholm only bookable until the week before Christmas
Pete