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Not in the least bit surprised that MON have dropped MUC; it always stood out as a bit of an oddball choice and I don't think any of us on here thought the route had much of a future. I'm not even sure what kind of market they were aiming for? I'd be interested to see if they drop MAN-MUC too as the competition is even greater. Let's hope they can find a better use for the aircraft.
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Munich and Milan were disappointing choices and I am sure BHX, flybe and Lufthansa will be pleased, as much as it pains me to say I don't think there there is room for competition on these routes at the present time especially with 174/214 seat aircraft.
Monarch have acted swiftly with Barcelona now daily from May although with FR that makes that route 11 a week with FR plus 3 x REU and 2 x GRO.
The annual high-season night Tenerife by Monarch on a Tuesday is back. This aircraft possibly operates BHX 0635 GIB, 14.10 ALC, TFS 21.35 back at 07.10 Wednesday out 08.10 Bordeaux with a turnaround to Split 13.55 arriving back 20.20 but it does get the night off.
High season now sees night-flights IBZ Thu-Mon, PMI & AGP FRI-SUN.
A clear increase in utilisation.
I still think a 10th aircraft would have been on the cards if they could have sourced it with still Corfu shown as an IT, Rhodes on Thomson for Avro and Malaga could easily have been double daily every day.
August is getting better but will still be well down with four BMI 733's been replaced by one extra Monarch plus a slight increase in seats (Nice was 149 last year).
Does anyone know the 320/321 split for Monarch at BHX - dummy bookings the last time I checked was 4 x 321 and 5 x 320 but the fleet additions are 5 x 321's and 3 x A320.
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Munich and Milan were disappointing choices and I am sure BHX, flybe and Lufthansa will be pleased, as much as it pains me to say I don't think there there is room for competition on these routes at the present time especially with 174/214 seat aircraft.
Monarch have acted swiftly with Barcelona now daily from May although with FR that makes that route 11 a week with FR plus 3 x REU and 2 x GRO.
The annual high-season night Tenerife by Monarch on a Tuesday is back. This aircraft possibly operates BHX 0635 GIB, 14.10 ALC, TFS 21.35 back at 07.10 Wednesday out 08.10 Bordeaux with a turnaround to Split 13.55 arriving back 20.20 but it does get the night off.
High season now sees night-flights IBZ Thu-Mon, PMI & AGP FRI-SUN.
A clear increase in utilisation.
I still think a 10th aircraft would have been on the cards if they could have sourced it with still Corfu shown as an IT, Rhodes on Thomson for Avro and Malaga could easily have been double daily every day.
August is getting better but will still be well down with four BMI 733's been replaced by one extra Monarch plus a slight increase in seats (Nice was 149 last year).
Does anyone know the 320/321 split for Monarch at BHX - dummy bookings the last time I checked was 4 x 321 and 5 x 320 but the fleet additions are 5 x 321's and 3 x A320.
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@OltonPete - agree that Monarch is not the right competitor for BHX-MUC, due to too large aircraft and absolutely no brand in Germany.
I could imagine Easyjet with 4/7 or 5/7 evening flights and less last minute schedule reductions. All this schedule thinning made it a far safer choice to book LH.
Flybe - BHX-HAJ now with E175 for Sat/Sun during summer, rather than Dash8 and E195.
I could imagine Easyjet with 4/7 or 5/7 evening flights and less last minute schedule reductions. All this schedule thinning made it a far safer choice to book LH.
Flybe - BHX-HAJ now with E175 for Sat/Sun during summer, rather than Dash8 and E195.
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that makes 9 a321 then see prev post.
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Looks as if LH are pleased with their services from Birmingham it would appear that Birmingham experienced the biggest growth at any of their UK bases.
Source Birmingham Post
http://www.birminghampost.net/birmin...5233-32917086/
Good news
Daza
Source Birmingham Post
http://www.birminghampost.net/birmin...5233-32917086/
Good news
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Not a surprise about having the largest LH growth in the UK - given LH's takeover of HAM (kicking out BE) and the successful introduction of TXL.
Having said that, considering LH Group, LX from BHX is down, SN (I think?) is down.
Commercially it must be an attractive market for LH, given there is no competition on any of the routes, other than on BHX-DUS (and ignoring ZB's intermezzo on MUC).
From LHR (LON) and MAN they have the joyful company of BA, U2, ZB, AB to Germany...
Having said that, considering LH Group, LX from BHX is down, SN (I think?) is down.
Commercially it must be an attractive market for LH, given there is no competition on any of the routes, other than on BHX-DUS (and ignoring ZB's intermezzo on MUC).
From LHR (LON) and MAN they have the joyful company of BA, U2, ZB, AB to Germany...
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Heard a rumor on another forum that due to the B787 issues, Qatar will not be launching BHX until at least Q2 2014.
They have also had to downsize their yet to be launched Chicago flights too, from daily to 3 weekly.
They have also had to downsize their yet to be launched Chicago flights too, from daily to 3 weekly.
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Qatar never set a starting date anyway for a BHX service, their boss just said they would be starting Birmingham.So not sure where the infos from that they have put the date back
Since then they have launched 10 new routes and put starting dates on all of those, that puts things into perspective where we are at.
Nigel
Qatar never set a starting date anyway for a BHX service, their boss just said they would be starting Birmingham.So not sure where the infos from that they have put the date back
Since then they have launched 10 new routes and put starting dates on all of those, that puts things into perspective where we are at.
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Alicante is 9 weekly from 31/3/2013 and has been for a while.
The August extras thus far are a Friday Faro and Saturday Malaga, quite pathetic compared to EMA.
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Alicante is 9 weekly from 31/3/2013 and has been for a while.
The August extras thus far are a Friday Faro and Saturday Malaga, quite pathetic compared to EMA.
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The August extras thus far are a Friday Faro and Saturday Malaga, quite pathetic compared to EMA.
However, BHX does have more FR this year with the new BCN, BGY and the continuation of the KRK route. It's good to see that FR can maintain these routes at both BHX and EMA, unlike in the north-west where some routes like BGY, CIA and RIX have been axed from LPL and now go from MAN instead (which personally I prefer, but Liverpudlians are probably not so happy.)
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FR/ZB/Movements
FRatSTN
No need to worry on that score if passenger charges remain similar at both airports. Certainly a pretty impressive FR August schedule at East Mids.
It is a good operation between both airports.
Monarch Hangar
Went past today and some structure has gone up already!
Movements
Tuesday even in March can be a little quiet but with priority freight flights and East Mids diversions it was a busy day.
Cello's second aircraft was registered yesterday as well although yet to fly commercially yet.
Pete
No need to worry on that score if passenger charges remain similar at both airports. Certainly a pretty impressive FR August schedule at East Mids.
It is a good operation between both airports.
Monarch Hangar
Went past today and some structure has gone up already!
Movements
Tuesday even in March can be a little quiet but with priority freight flights and East Mids diversions it was a busy day.
Cello's second aircraft was registered yesterday as well although yet to fly commercially yet.
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Few extra charters for Birmingham this summer:
Small Planet will be operating to Corfu on Mondays, Heraklion on Tuesdays, Rhodes on Wednesdays, Zante on Thursdays, Skiathos on Fridays, Larnaca on Saturdays and Paphos on Sundays.
Small Planet will be operating to Corfu on Mondays, Heraklion on Tuesdays, Rhodes on Wednesdays, Zante on Thursdays, Skiathos on Fridays, Larnaca on Saturdays and Paphos on Sundays.