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Old 1st Mar 2013, 17:15
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Not in the least bit surprised that MON have dropped MUC; it always stood out as a bit of an oddball choice and I don't think any of us on here thought the route had much of a future. I'm not even sure what kind of market they were aiming for? I'd be interested to see if they drop MAN-MUC too as the competition is even greater. Let's hope they can find a better use for the aircraft.
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Old 3rd Mar 2013, 09:53
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Monarch

They have, Barcelona.
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Old 3rd Mar 2013, 10:03
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Munich and Milan were disappointing choices and I am sure BHX, flybe and Lufthansa will be pleased, as much as it pains me to say I don't think there there is room for competition on these routes at the present time especially with 174/214 seat aircraft.

Monarch have acted swiftly with Barcelona now daily from May although with FR that makes that route 11 a week with FR plus 3 x REU and 2 x GRO.

The annual high-season night Tenerife by Monarch on a Tuesday is back. This aircraft possibly operates BHX 0635 GIB, 14.10 ALC, TFS 21.35 back at 07.10 Wednesday out 08.10 Bordeaux with a turnaround to Split 13.55 arriving back 20.20 but it does get the night off.

High season now sees night-flights IBZ Thu-Mon, PMI & AGP FRI-SUN.

A clear increase in utilisation.

I still think a 10th aircraft would have been on the cards if they could have sourced it with still Corfu shown as an IT, Rhodes on Thomson for Avro and Malaga could easily have been double daily every day.

August is getting better but will still be well down with four BMI 733's been replaced by one extra Monarch plus a slight increase in seats (Nice was 149 last year).

Does anyone know the 320/321 split for Monarch at BHX - dummy bookings the last time I checked was 4 x 321 and 5 x 320 but the fleet additions are 5 x 321's and 3 x A320.

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Old 3rd Mar 2013, 10:22
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MUC

@OltonPete - agree that Monarch is not the right competitor for BHX-MUC, due to too large aircraft and absolutely no brand in Germany.

I could imagine Easyjet with 4/7 or 5/7 evening flights and less last minute schedule reductions. All this schedule thinning made it a far safer choice to book LH.

Flybe - BHX-HAJ now with E175 for Sat/Sun during summer, rather than Dash8 and E195.

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Old 3rd Mar 2013, 15:37
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Mon BHX Fleet 2013

Appears to be 4 A321 and 5 A320 but that could change!

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Old 3rd Mar 2013, 16:07
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that makes 9 a321 then see prev post.
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Old 3rd Mar 2013, 17:49
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that makes 9 a321 then see prev post.
That can't be right as an A320 is needed at BHX in order to operate BHX-GIB as the A321 cannot fly there. I think Alex321 was supposed to put A320 instead of A321 for one of them.
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Old 3rd Mar 2013, 21:58
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Correct, just spotted my error, Definitely 4 A321 and 4 A320 the 9th aircraft is showing as an A320 but there is talk it will instead be an extra A321.
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Old 4th Mar 2013, 09:58
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LH at BHX

Looks as if LH are pleased with their services from Birmingham it would appear that Birmingham experienced the biggest growth at any of their UK bases.

Source Birmingham Post
http://www.birminghampost.net/birmin...5233-32917086/

Good news

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Not a surprise about having the largest LH growth in the UK - given LH's takeover of HAM (kicking out BE) and the successful introduction of TXL.
Having said that, considering LH Group, LX from BHX is down, SN (I think?) is down.

Commercially it must be an attractive market for LH, given there is no competition on any of the routes, other than on BHX-DUS (and ignoring ZB's intermezzo on MUC).

From LHR (LON) and MAN they have the joyful company of BA, U2, ZB, AB to Germany...
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Old 5th Mar 2013, 14:51
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Heard a rumor on another forum that due to the B787 issues, Qatar will not be launching BHX until at least Q2 2014.

They have also had to downsize their yet to be launched Chicago flights too, from daily to 3 weekly.
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That will fit nicely with the opening of the runway extension then. PR sorted.

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Old 5th Mar 2013, 16:24
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Alicante FR

Alicante increases for August to 9x Weekly. Double daily on Wednesdays and Saturdays
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Old 5th Mar 2013, 16:38
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Planeaddict.

Qatar never set a starting date anyway for a BHX service, their boss just said they would be starting Birmingham.So not sure where the infos from that they have put the date back

Since then they have launched 10 new routes and put starting dates on all of those, that puts things into perspective where we are at.

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Old 5th Mar 2013, 17:35
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Ryanair

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Alicante is 9 weekly from 31/3/2013 and has been for a while.

The August extras thus far are a Friday Faro and Saturday Malaga, quite pathetic compared to EMA.

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Old 5th Mar 2013, 18:06
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The August extras thus far are a Friday Faro and Saturday Malaga, quite pathetic compared to EMA.
Without sounding funny, hopefully it will remain that way. I'm a bit biased I know as I live in the East Midlands but hopfully EMA will always remain bigger with FR traffic. With the exception of Ryanair and Jet2 (who I find very comparable to Monarch who are now very big in BHX), virtually everything we now have at EMA is just BHX on a smaller scale and it's nice to have a major airline that chooses a regional airport like EMA as a major base.

However, BHX does have more FR this year with the new BCN, BGY and the continuation of the KRK route. It's good to see that FR can maintain these routes at both BHX and EMA, unlike in the north-west where some routes like BGY, CIA and RIX have been axed from LPL and now go from MAN instead (which personally I prefer, but Liverpudlians are probably not so happy.)
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Old 5th Mar 2013, 22:24
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A321s can operate to GIB.
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Old 5th Mar 2013, 22:42
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FR/ZB/Movements

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No need to worry on that score if passenger charges remain similar at both airports. Certainly a pretty impressive FR August schedule at East Mids.

It is a good operation between both airports.

Monarch Hangar

Went past today and some structure has gone up already!

Movements

Tuesday even in March can be a little quiet but with priority freight flights and East Mids diversions it was a busy day.

Cello's second aircraft was registered yesterday as well although yet to fly commercially yet.

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Old 6th Mar 2013, 04:26
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Yes they can, but the load restrictions would be horrendous.
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Old 8th Mar 2013, 12:09
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Few extra charters for Birmingham this summer:

Small Planet will be operating to Corfu on Mondays, Heraklion on Tuesdays, Rhodes on Wednesdays, Zante on Thursdays, Skiathos on Fridays, Larnaca on Saturdays and Paphos on Sundays.
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