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Thanks for the info.
Are those 2 new Ryanair routes with based a/c do you know, and what is GDS showing for MAN-DUB at present? The web timetable as of yesterday was only showing 17 x weekly.
Thanks for the info.
Are those 2 new Ryanair routes with based a/c do you know, and what is GDS showing for MAN-DUB at present? The web timetable as of yesterday was only showing 17 x weekly.
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Hi MANFOD,
The GDS is showing for DUB:
6 daily EI/EIR (3 each)
5 daily FR M--TFS- and 4 daily Tue and 6 daily Sun, but that may change.
Bologna at the moment seems to indicate away based but that may change. Zadar is MAN based.
Also worth noting at this moment in time, GDS is showing a requirement for 7 based aircraft on 4 days a week. However with the STN deal, LPL loosing 1 aircraft, BRS gaining 2 and some new bases inc rumoured AMS, where this 7th based aircraft is coming from (if used) is a mystery.
The GDS is showing for DUB:
6 daily EI/EIR (3 each)
5 daily FR M--TFS- and 4 daily Tue and 6 daily Sun, but that may change.
Bologna at the moment seems to indicate away based but that may change. Zadar is MAN based.
Also worth noting at this moment in time, GDS is showing a requirement for 7 based aircraft on 4 days a week. However with the STN deal, LPL loosing 1 aircraft, BRS gaining 2 and some new bases inc rumoured AMS, where this 7th based aircraft is coming from (if used) is a mystery.
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I fear you are not a strategic thinker... Regards,The Southside
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er no....on second thoughts.....
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The Ryanair timetable is currently showing nothing for BIQ & TUF, although BVA & BZR of the French routes are loaded.
Similarly, the Polish routes are showing except for KTW.
It may be these 3 routes are being dropped to be replaced by the destinations you mention. Interesting though if some days require 7 a/c as things stand.
The Ryanair timetable is currently showing nothing for BIQ & TUF, although BVA & BZR of the French routes are loaded.
Similarly, the Polish routes are showing except for KTW.
It may be these 3 routes are being dropped to be replaced by the destinations you mention. Interesting though if some days require 7 a/c as things stand.
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They haven't done BIQ since S12. Strangely though it still remains in the drop down menu but only when you edit a search. It's not selectable on the homepage and is not on the route map.
TUF and KTW however I'm not sure but BRS is missing a few Polish routes including KTW. Also a lot of airports now only going to KRK twice weekly. Maybe some reductions in Poland??
Still no sign of Zadar, but Bologna and also a new route to Barcelona (El Prat) now on the Ryanair website. Zadar not on sale from Liverpool or East Midlands so still quite possible to be added to Manchester?
TUF and KTW however I'm not sure but BRS is missing a few Polish routes including KTW. Also a lot of airports now only going to KRK twice weekly. Maybe some reductions in Poland??
Still no sign of Zadar, but Bologna and also a new route to Barcelona (El Prat) now on the Ryanair website. Zadar not on sale from Liverpool or East Midlands so still quite possible to be added to Manchester?
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Im wondering if indeed MAN is to get 7 based aircraft then.
There are already a few increases on existing based routes, with BLQ and now BCN added (although we don't know frequency or if its a BCN based aircraft). ZAD has appeared in Chroma at MAN and strong rumours of OTP.
Im pleasantly surprised given the growth of other airports and with LPL loosing an aircraft I was unsure if MAN was to remain stagnant. Maybe the STN deal gave MAN the nod too?
There are already a few increases on existing based routes, with BLQ and now BCN added (although we don't know frequency or if its a BCN based aircraft). ZAD has appeared in Chroma at MAN and strong rumours of OTP.
Im pleasantly surprised given the growth of other airports and with LPL loosing an aircraft I was unsure if MAN was to remain stagnant. Maybe the STN deal gave MAN the nod too?
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Nigel,
At the moment 2014 at MAN seems to be about 24 flights up compared to Summer 2013, that's without the BCN and ZAD routes, and without the DUB increases which are highly likely to be DUB based.
Like I say there is a requirement for 7 based on the current timetable compared to 6 based last year, with away based flights also up.
At the moment 2014 at MAN seems to be about 24 flights up compared to Summer 2013, that's without the BCN and ZAD routes, and without the DUB increases which are highly likely to be DUB based.
Like I say there is a requirement for 7 based on the current timetable compared to 6 based last year, with away based flights also up.
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In fact I have noticed some reductions in frequencies and also some increases for a number of FR routes recently in fact since I updated the timetable on 6 December.
At the moment there seems to be a net reduction. Briefly but not fully checked
WMI -1
RYG -1
BVA -1
CRL -1
GRO -3
FAO -1
ALC -1
There are increase to
BUD up 1
MJV up 1
At the moment there seems to be a net reduction. Briefly but not fully checked
WMI -1
RYG -1
BVA -1
CRL -1
GRO -3
FAO -1
ALC -1
There are increase to
BUD up 1
MJV up 1
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I hope Ryanair continue to grow strongly at Manchester for a long time to come. It would be great if it could get something like 10 or 12 a/c in the future.
It really does seem now that obviously Stansted, followed by Manchester alongside East Midlands stick out as the main Ryanair bases in the UK and generally nowadays have seen the most growth. Regardless of what some people might think, I don't think it's a co-incidence they are all MAG owned airports. Ryanair and MAG are working very well together.
I suppose it could be an argument of too many eggs in one basket. Maybe Ryanair are growing mostly at the MAG airports so that they are less likely to want to upset them again like they did in 2009/10 at Manchester.
Edit: Also just wanted to suggest that it's quite possible one aircraft from Liverpool will switch to Manchester since it seems Manchester will have 7 and Liverpool only 5 next year (they had 6 each this summer but MAN had a lot more W's).
It really does seem now that obviously Stansted, followed by Manchester alongside East Midlands stick out as the main Ryanair bases in the UK and generally nowadays have seen the most growth. Regardless of what some people might think, I don't think it's a co-incidence they are all MAG owned airports. Ryanair and MAG are working very well together.
I suppose it could be an argument of too many eggs in one basket. Maybe Ryanair are growing mostly at the MAG airports so that they are less likely to want to upset them again like they did in 2009/10 at Manchester.
Edit: Also just wanted to suggest that it's quite possible one aircraft from Liverpool will switch to Manchester since it seems Manchester will have 7 and Liverpool only 5 next year (they had 6 each this summer but MAN had a lot more W's).
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Well Mr Bobby please enlighten us with your own strategic thinking !
Did the Australian investors really buy into this deal on the dream of Stansted becoming a mega 4 runway inter continental hub.......
Or the somewhat less exciting and certainly less profitable prospect of being stuck with a single aggressive lo cost operator, a fact likely to scare off any prospect of major expansion by other airlines and something which seems to have totally bypassed MAGs thinking.
But what now?
If the Australian's pull the plug will this damage the core product in the portfolio, Manchester?
Did the Australian investors really buy into this deal on the dream of Stansted becoming a mega 4 runway inter continental hub.......
Or the somewhat less exciting and certainly less profitable prospect of being stuck with a single aggressive lo cost operator, a fact likely to scare off any prospect of major expansion by other airlines and something which seems to have totally bypassed MAGs thinking.
But what now?
If the Australian's pull the plug will this damage the core product in the portfolio, Manchester?
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Viscount,
I still have RYG at 4 per week just like it always has.
Just to check on 2013 (I have no idea), but including the DUB increases, BLQ at 3 weekly and Zadar at 2 weekly, I have 186 departures. If KTW and TUF get uploaded then 190 departures for mid-week in August.
Like I say, no idea how that compares to Summer 2013, but Mon,Thu, Fri and Sat seem to indicate 7 based aircraft according to schedules in GDS.
I still have RYG at 4 per week just like it always has.
Just to check on 2013 (I have no idea), but including the DUB increases, BLQ at 3 weekly and Zadar at 2 weekly, I have 186 departures. If KTW and TUF get uploaded then 190 departures for mid-week in August.
Like I say, no idea how that compares to Summer 2013, but Mon,Thu, Fri and Sat seem to indicate 7 based aircraft according to schedules in GDS.
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The Australians did indeed buy into MAG on the assumption that Stansted will stay a single-runway airport. And that Gatwick would get a second runway, which is the worst case for Stansted.
It's always been virtually impossible to make a second Stansted runway stack up financially, given its high cost and the unwillingness of Stansted's airlines to pay higher airport charges. Although I'm sure that MAG are annoyed that Stansted didn't get onto the Davies short list, this probably reflects political embarrassment rather than any real expectation that a second runway could be a realistic and financially viable option.
The Australians did indeed buy into MAG on the assumption that Stansted will stay a single-runway airport. And that Gatwick would get a second runway, which is the worst case for Stansted.
It's always been virtually impossible to make a second Stansted runway stack up financially, given its high cost and the unwillingness of Stansted's airlines to pay higher airport charges. Although I'm sure that MAG are annoyed that Stansted didn't get onto the Davies short list, this probably reflects political embarrassment rather than any real expectation that a second runway could be a realistic and financially viable option.
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I still have RYG at 4 per week just like it always has.
Just to check on 2013 (I have no idea), but including the DUB increases, BLQ at 3 weekly and Zadar at 2 weekly, I have 186 departures. If KTW and TUF get uploaded then 190 departures for mid-week in August.
Like I say, no idea how that compares to Summer 2013, but Mon,Thu, Fri and Sat seem to indicate 7 based aircraft according to schedules in GDS.
Just to check on 2013 (I have no idea), but including the DUB increases, BLQ at 3 weekly and Zadar at 2 weekly, I have 186 departures. If KTW and TUF get uploaded then 190 departures for mid-week in August.
Like I say, no idea how that compares to Summer 2013, but Mon,Thu, Fri and Sat seem to indicate 7 based aircraft according to schedules in GDS.
Also there have been a number of swaps between based and non based aircraft so it is currently difficult to say whether or not the based aircraft will remain the same. I will comment when I have completed the checks