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Whilst waiting for my luggage in T1 last week, I noticed on the belt info screen that a flight from 'Domodedevo' had arrived. This is the regular EZY scheduled flight from Moscow.
Whilst I and no doubt other seasoned travelers will know that this is Moscow's show-piece airport, how many others do?
Surely it would be better to display 'Moscow DME' on the boards so that the other few hundred captive audience - waiting for their bags- would think 'Oh I didn't know there were flights to Moscow from here....interesting' Instead of thinking 'Domodedevo? WTF is that? Can't even pronounce it.'
A huge marketing opportunity lost as well as confusion for local taxi drivers who will be looking in vain for a flight from Moscow that they are meeting.
The airport management really does need to get a grip. Maybe because we all expect low fares, the airport company can only afford to hire idiots these days.
Pay peanuts......
Whilst I and no doubt other seasoned travelers will know that this is Moscow's show-piece airport, how many others do?
Surely it would be better to display 'Moscow DME' on the boards so that the other few hundred captive audience - waiting for their bags- would think 'Oh I didn't know there were flights to Moscow from here....interesting' Instead of thinking 'Domodedevo? WTF is that? Can't even pronounce it.'
A huge marketing opportunity lost as well as confusion for local taxi drivers who will be looking in vain for a flight from Moscow that they are meeting.
The airport management really does need to get a grip. Maybe because we all expect low fares, the airport company can only afford to hire idiots these days.
Pay peanuts......
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Raised the whole Moscow thing with their PR people. No response.....
I did question whether there are also confused Muscovites looking at the Moscow dep board asking "where is this Ringway?"
I did question whether there are also confused Muscovites looking at the Moscow dep board asking "where is this Ringway?"
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I also know somebody in Manchester who emailed MAG Marketing re Moscow board also a deafening silence !
Route Development is I believe an internal dept BUT marketing which includes Facebook, Twitter , Website etc is I believe outsourced !
Not sure if this includes the boards.
Sadly as long as the passenger figures keep going up the management seem to go into self congratulatory mode completely missing the fact that they may be going up simply because the economy has improved, and people have more money in their pocket, precious little to do with the airports own marketing performance.
Have PM you BetablockerUK
Route Development is I believe an internal dept BUT marketing which includes Facebook, Twitter , Website etc is I believe outsourced !
Not sure if this includes the boards.
Sadly as long as the passenger figures keep going up the management seem to go into self congratulatory mode completely missing the fact that they may be going up simply because the economy has improved, and people have more money in their pocket, precious little to do with the airports own marketing performance.
Have PM you BetablockerUK
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M-ABEU arriving as FR01 tomorrow at 09:15, departing 13:20 with a certain M O'L on board. Lets hope he is bringing some good news with him. Bucharest would be nice.
Compared to the mega expansion in the South East with EZY and Norge at LGW and RYR at STN, a dozen based 737s all operating NEW unserved routes would be good !
Compared to the mega expansion in the South East with EZY and Norge at LGW and RYR at STN, a dozen based 737s all operating NEW unserved routes would be good !
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Routesonline has an article on Birmingham trying to attract a Chinese link. But it also gives these are the bi-directional traffic flow between the UK and China for origin + destination passengers in 2012
LHR 808231 pax = 67.6% market
MAN 145812 pax = 12.2% market
BHX 58988 pax = 4.8% market
LGW 44805 pax = 3.8% market
EDI 38816 pax = 3.3% market
For MAN, it's 399.48 passengers per day or 199.74 one-way. Almost enough for an A330 or 787 one would say, with the ability to haul some cargo as well to bolster a route.
LHR 808231 pax = 67.6% market
MAN 145812 pax = 12.2% market
BHX 58988 pax = 4.8% market
LGW 44805 pax = 3.8% market
EDI 38816 pax = 3.3% market
For MAN, it's 399.48 passengers per day or 199.74 one-way. Almost enough for an A330 or 787 one would say, with the ability to haul some cargo as well to bolster a route.
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For MAN, it's 399.48 passengers per day or 199.74 one-way. Almost enough for an A330 or 787 one would say, with the ability to haul some cargo as well to bolster a route.
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Interesting statistic.
That means, if my mental maths are correct that MAN has more of the UK-China market than BHX, LGW and EDI combined.
I''m nor surprised really: Manchester has a huge Chinese community, noticeable even if you walk around town.
The trouble with this statistic though in attempting to justify a route to 'China' is that the definition renders itself useless, as China is such a big place.
A route to, say, Beijing would inevitably capture only a tiny piece of that overall market.
Stats on point to point travel would be more interesting but would probably 'prove' that it's not commercially viable, except of course HKG.
On that basis, the next several UK-China routes would be to LHR, unless something extraordinary happens.
That means, if my mental maths are correct that MAN has more of the UK-China market than BHX, LGW and EDI combined.
I''m nor surprised really: Manchester has a huge Chinese community, noticeable even if you walk around town.
The trouble with this statistic though in attempting to justify a route to 'China' is that the definition renders itself useless, as China is such a big place.
A route to, say, Beijing would inevitably capture only a tiny piece of that overall market.
Stats on point to point travel would be more interesting but would probably 'prove' that it's not commercially viable, except of course HKG.
On that basis, the next several UK-China routes would be to LHR, unless something extraordinary happens.
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Yes your bang on here, and agree LHR will probably get more flights first.
If you go to Warwick Castle or Stratford, there are swarms of Chinese tourists, so does that mean for that reason BHX will get flights..no, for the same reasons you state.
BA alone want 7 more Chinese routes out of LHR.
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Yes your bang on here, and agree LHR will probably get more flights first.
If you go to Warwick Castle or Stratford, there are swarms of Chinese tourists, so does that mean for that reason BHX will get flights..no, for the same reasons you state.
BA alone want 7 more Chinese routes out of LHR.
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Rumours going Round that US Airways are moving to Terminal 3? Anyone know anything?
The only way the new AA can fit together is to either move AA to T1 or T2, or move another T3 operator out to fit in the US Airways flights.
There was a plan in 2010 to merge T1 and T3, if US Airways is intent on moving, as well as any additional growth Ryanair may bring, this plan may now be needed more than ever.