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Old 19th Mar 2013, 04:44
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Im guessing that with Astra Zenica closing its Cheshire branch, we can kiss the US A330 goodbye at MAN in place of a B757/B767, given that it was the biggest user of the flight?
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How are these exports being transported?
Probably clogging up the M56/M6 and roads around LHR and all routes to Dover!
For air freight

Some into the MAN freight village to go on flights from MAN

Some into the MAN freight village to be consolidated onto a pallet to be sent by road to a London Airport or even BRU or AMS

Some bypassing the MAN freight village altogether and going for consolidation darn the SE or abroad.

Im guessing that with Astra Zenica closing its Cheshire branch, we can kiss the US A330 goodbye at MAN in place of a B757/B767, given that it was the biggest user of the flight?
I wonder about its future at all now, especially with the merger of U.S. Airways and American. I'm sure they will be reviewing all routes and Astra Zeneca are a major user of MAN- PHL and I guess many will be premium pax.

Maybe as the AZ research HQ is being located to Cambridge, they will open up a STN-PHL instead, keeping the business within the Group.

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Old 19th Mar 2013, 09:10
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Whilst I'm sure Astra-Zenica were/ are a big user of their service, I doubt they were filling it up in a daily basis and that the success of the MAN-PHL was entirely down to them. Perhaps a re-gauge but otherwise I don't see MAN losing the route even in the light if the merger.
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Im heading to Palma from Man T1 with Jet2 LS831 0640hrs on 1st April .

Dont suppose anybody knows which airframe will be operating this leg?

Cheers in advance.
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Can't see MAN-PHL being dropped any time soon.

The route is far more reliant on the Florida and California/Arizona market. Biz gets filled because it's price competitive against the likes of BA and Virgin.

Seeing as US is heading the merger with AA, I can't see why they would want to meddle with one of their own successful routes; MAN does well to be a European "regional" airport attracting the largest aircraft in the US Airways portfolio, and it's little to do with the patronage of Astra-Zeneca.
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the largest aircraft in the US Airways portfolio, and it's little to do with the patronage of Astra-Zeneca
Actually Astra Zeneca has a lot to do with the A330-300.

Astra used to used Continental to Newark, which is why we saw the DC-10 and then B777-200.

It was no co-incidence that once the contract switched to US Airways, the route quickly dropped to a B767-400 and then down to a B757-200.

Whilst I do not see the route being dropped, I do see it being downgraded. Its already gone to a slightly smaller A330-200, and even the B767 has made an appearance this month for the first time in years!

The only thing that could keep an airbus on the route is freight, but, even that seems to be in an ever downward spiral at MAN.
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Im guessing that with Astra Zenica closing its Cheshire branch, we can kiss the US A330 goodbye at MAN in place of a B757/B767, given that it was the biggest user of the flight?
They're not closing any branch.

They are relocating the R & D arm to Cambridge.
It could well be the thin end of the wedge though.
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According to the Guardian, MAN is to get a new terminal. No details given.
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Im heading to Palma from Man T1 with Jet2 LS831 0640hrs on 1st April .

Dont suppose anybody knows which airframe will be operating this leg?

Cheers in advance.
Well if it's just an airframe you won't be going very far, anyway:

air·frame (ârfrm)
n.
The structure of an aircraft, such as an airplane, helicopter, or rocket, exclusive of its power plant.
Mind you, you're booked on April 1st, so anything could happen!
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MAN new terminal?

I think they already got it - just off the M11 in Essex.

The good old 'Grauniad' may be mixing up MAN with little brother EMA, which is to get terminal redevelopment.

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Far East exports from Northwest England boom

"Sales to China rocketed by nine per cent to £1.6bn, making it the north west's biggest market behind the EU and US.

When taking into account exports to Greater China – which includes Taiwan and Hong Kong – the figure rose to more than £2bn."

How are these exports being transported?

New deal with peel via Seaforth Docks I beleave
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The reason why CO went to a 757 is because the service increased to twice daily. Nothing to do with Astra-Zenica.
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Well the Evening News is covering itself in glory today:

Big headline: Number of Manchester Airport passengers hits all-time high "


"The number of passengers handled by Manchester Airport soared by nearly 850,000 last year - the highest rise of any UK gateway.
Latest figures reveal more than 19.7 million people jetted in and out of Manchester during 2012, an increase of 4.5 per cent."

Well of course it would be, if we ignore these years:

2004 MANCHESTER 20,969,335
2005 MANCHESTER 22,083,008
2006 MANCHESTER 22,123,762
2007 MANCHESTER 21,891,723
2008 MANCHESTER 21,062,749
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Far East exports from Northwest England boom

"Sales to China rocketed by nine per cent to £1.6bn, making it the north west's biggest market behind the EU and US.

When taking into account exports to Greater China – which includes Taiwan and Hong Kong – the figure rose to more than £2bn."

How are these exports being transported?

New deal with peel via Seaforth Docks I beleave


Airadio if you worked in forwarding or knew much about forwarding you would find most of the traffic actually goes further south to the likes of Felixstowe.

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By The way If anyone can tell me how to reduce sizes of Pictures on PPRuNe that would be very helpful

According to the Guardian, MAN is to get a new terminal. No details given.
Not sure where or what this will be. I know there were plans to develop Terminal 1 which had a masterplan stating that both Piers B and C would have lower levels installed. Pier B also looks if it was to be knocked down and rebuilt:


Terminal 2 has I believe stated that a Satellite Pier will be added and The current terminal will be extened, including extending the number of gates it uses where Gate 215 is. I think there were also plans to Expand it even more:


Terminal 3 was also supposed to have it's Pier parallel to the runway extened and have gates on both sides (Replacing the T1 & T3 Long Stay Car Park). It shows this in the image of the Manchestr Airport City Plan:


So personally in my opinion I think that one of these will begin to develop. I really think that there is currently no way that a Fourth or replacement Terminal is needed. The current terminals are in good shape to be expanded and I also think that they are generally capable with the amount of passengers they handle. All of the terminals only seem to be busy in the early mornings and most of the day they are generally quite quiet I think.

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If you read my post properly I did say new contracts, Peel have been very busy
Planing Liverpools new super port cargo has increased by 18m tons in 2012 the majority of that increase from China Asia Shipping companies have started-using the Panama canal rather than suez due to a number of factors, thus making Liverpool a more attractive proposition than the southern ports

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There is also Post Salford the huge intermodal development (another Peel one) work starts this year I believe.
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Old 20th Mar 2013, 11:20
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Whilst I do not see the route being dropped, I do see it being downgraded. Its already gone to a slightly smaller A330-200, and even the B767 has made an appearance this month for the first time in years!
The drop to A330-200 is because of winter load factors, it's back up to a -300 at the end of the month.
The B767 was a last minute change due to some unscheduled maintenance that was required on the Airbus fleet.
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it's back up to a -300 at the end of the month.
Not for the all the summer. 200 sticks around a bit.
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The drop to A330-200 is because of winter load factors, it's back up to a -300 at the end of the month
The -200 is still scheduled throughout the summer with the -300 making ad-hoc appearances.

In other news, I see MAN is having yet another crack at a China publicity event. The twinning with PEK didn't seem to work, so now a 'business forum' has been set up to try and encourage a link.
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