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Just seen this on Plane Mad:
Any Ideas? 
Expect a new route announcement from a airline that has operated into MAN before very very soon..... All is in place handling wise ...... It will be a long haul route starting summer 2015
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No DL64/65 is down in all systems to remain daily A330-200 all winter at this stage.
UA100/101 to IAD is the only conformed 'cut' this winter, aside from the seasonal Charlotte ending.
UA100/101 to IAD is the only conformed 'cut' this winter, aside from the seasonal Charlotte ending.
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Re. HKG Immigration Queues & response to my earlier message : Don't know how many travellers are aware that if you travel frequently to HKG, you can register your passport with HK Immigration desk after Immigration. They take your finger print, attach a bar code to your passport and you can then forget the immigration queues and use the automatic gates just like HK residents. You can also use the same gates leaving HKG airport. at the Macau ferry terminal and at the border crossing into China into Shenzhen.
Been through Singapore's Terminal 1 a few times this year at peak periods and never less than 45 mins wait at Immigration both inward and outward. Last time had a 5 hour transit again at SIN T1 and the eateries upstairs were a disgrace with filthy uncleared tables. The security staff at the gate lounges can be very abrupt too. Yet they consistently win awards for world's for best airport !!
From my experience MAN when busy is no worse, and a breeze at off peak times.
From my experience MAN when busy is no worse, and a breeze at off peak times.
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Been through Singapore's Terminal 1 a few times this year at peak periods and never less than 45 mins wait at Immigration both inward and outward. Last time had a 5 hour transit again at SIN T1 and the eateries upstairs were a disgrace with filthy uncleared tables. The security staff at the gate lounges can be very abrupt too. Yet they consistently win awards for world's for best airport !!
From my experience MAN when busy is no worse, and a breeze at off peak times.
From my experience MAN when busy is no worse, and a breeze at off peak times.
Compare like with like and you will soon see MAN worse than similar airports of its size.
Are you honestly comparing a 3 terminal airport in MAN which handles around 22 million to a 3 terminal airport in SIN which handles 54 million passengers.
Not at all, they are different airports serving different markets and the fact they process more passengers is irrelevant as they were designed and built much more recently than most UK airports to do just that.
The point is that whenever anyone has a moan about their latest UK airport experience they tend to quote airports like HKG and SIN as being the holy grail, when in fact they all suffer from congestion and queuing same as any other airport when there's a peak in demand.
Not at all, they are different airports serving different markets and the fact they process more passengers is irrelevant as they were designed and built much more recently than most UK airports to do just that.
The point is that whenever anyone has a moan about their latest UK airport experience they tend to quote airports like HKG and SIN as being the holy grail, when in fact they all suffer from congestion and queuing same as any other airport when there's a peak in demand.
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I think a lot of the criticism of MAN is just your average Brit having a moan and saying how much better everything is everywhere else. We just love slagging our own places off at the expense of just about anywhere else.
The same people that huff and tutt in UK queues are generally the same people that laugh and joke in queues in HKG, SIN, etc etc
MAN has improved immeasurably over the last few years in all respects other than Border Control, it deserves considerable praise for the investments it has made in security areas and the like to alleviate some of the bottlenecks.
What it can't change overnight is the inadequate nature of both T1 and T3 but if rumoured demolition and rebuilding of both come to pass, we will end up with a short term pain for long term gain.
Given a) the high seasonality of the airport and b) the peaks and troughs as the large based fleets depart and return, it's a wonder it functions at all.
Just out of interest - extrapolating the peak morning summer flows into an annual norm..........what passenger number would that produce on an annual basis?
The same people that huff and tutt in UK queues are generally the same people that laugh and joke in queues in HKG, SIN, etc etc
MAN has improved immeasurably over the last few years in all respects other than Border Control, it deserves considerable praise for the investments it has made in security areas and the like to alleviate some of the bottlenecks.
What it can't change overnight is the inadequate nature of both T1 and T3 but if rumoured demolition and rebuilding of both come to pass, we will end up with a short term pain for long term gain.
Given a) the high seasonality of the airport and b) the peaks and troughs as the large based fleets depart and return, it's a wonder it functions at all.
Just out of interest - extrapolating the peak morning summer flows into an annual norm..........what passenger number would that produce on an annual basis?
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Expect a new route announcement from a airline that has operated into MAN before very very soon..... All is in place handling wise ...... It will be a long haul route starting summer 2015
It had better be Air China !
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Lots of chit chat re China Forum
Current Chinese Premier Visit and a self congratulatory opportunity for Gideon to emphasis what he is doing for "The North"
Lots of back slapping down South on the news but we need some of the impetus re these trade deals/retail /tourist opportunities up here.
I'm sure BA are sniffing for opportunities let's hope MAG are.
Talking of representation has anybody actually seen or know of the Honourable Member for Wythenshawe, last seen catching a train to Euston.
Considering he has a major employer in his constituency he has not exactly been Mr chatty !
Perish the thought he has succumbed to the bright lights of London never to return to represent the thoughts /aspirations of the individuals who voted for him !
It had better be Air China !
Former operator freight service
Lots of chit chat re China Forum
Current Chinese Premier Visit and a self congratulatory opportunity for Gideon to emphasis what he is doing for "The North"
Lots of back slapping down South on the news but we need some of the impetus re these trade deals/retail /tourist opportunities up here.
I'm sure BA are sniffing for opportunities let's hope MAG are.
Talking of representation has anybody actually seen or know of the Honourable Member for Wythenshawe, last seen catching a train to Euston.
Considering he has a major employer in his constituency he has not exactly been Mr chatty !
Perish the thought he has succumbed to the bright lights of London never to return to represent the thoughts /aspirations of the individuals who voted for him !
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New long haul routes are no doubt a great thing, but I hope new entrants have time to establish themselves before further new additions risk cannibalising customers; especially where they compete for connecting customers.
In terms of a new long haul route with an airline which operated previously, all I can think is:
Malaysian Airlines:
possible, though KL is not high yield traffic, is it? With competition from ME3, plus Cathay and SA, might be tricky to justify such a long haul route with all its associated costs at a time of turbulence for the airline
Air India:
Always possible and BHX flights have not been pulled by the airline, suggesting a possible confidence that AI has in UK non-London airports. MAN doesn't have the same Indian VFR traffic as BHX, but perhaps there is sufficient business links to make a Delhi flight viable and there is no direct competition
South African:
I'd love it, but I doubt it. The lack of an sub-Saharan African airline (Kenyan, Ethiopian) at MAN is a hole, I believe, but I don't have confidence SA will be the ones to plug it.
El Al:
Not quite long haul, but I'm surprised that they leave the route to easyJet. They have operated the route before.
Gulf Air:
A very competitive market and they are not doing well, but I could see them wanting a piece of the pie.
My guess would be Air India, but given MAN's boom recently, it could be anyone!
Any other punts?
In terms of a new long haul route with an airline which operated previously, all I can think is:
Malaysian Airlines:
possible, though KL is not high yield traffic, is it? With competition from ME3, plus Cathay and SA, might be tricky to justify such a long haul route with all its associated costs at a time of turbulence for the airline
Air India:
Always possible and BHX flights have not been pulled by the airline, suggesting a possible confidence that AI has in UK non-London airports. MAN doesn't have the same Indian VFR traffic as BHX, but perhaps there is sufficient business links to make a Delhi flight viable and there is no direct competition
South African:
I'd love it, but I doubt it. The lack of an sub-Saharan African airline (Kenyan, Ethiopian) at MAN is a hole, I believe, but I don't have confidence SA will be the ones to plug it.
El Al:
Not quite long haul, but I'm surprised that they leave the route to easyJet. They have operated the route before.
Gulf Air:
A very competitive market and they are not doing well, but I could see them wanting a piece of the pie.
My guess would be Air India, but given MAN's boom recently, it could be anyone!
Any other punts?
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Air India:
Always possible and BHX flights have not been pulled by the
airline, suggesting a possible confidence that AI has in UK non-London airports. MAN doesn't have the same Indian VFR traffic as BHX, but perhaps there is sufficient business links to make a Delhi flight viable and there is no direct competition
Always possible and BHX flights have not been pulled by the
airline, suggesting a possible confidence that AI has in UK non-London airports. MAN doesn't have the same Indian VFR traffic as BHX, but perhaps there is sufficient business links to make a Delhi flight viable and there is no direct competition
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Considering that Emirates going through Milan was recently stopped whats the possibility that it could be that route but redirected
I may have spotted a flaw in that cunning plan !
Emirates are not a former operator, well not yet .....
I may have spotted a flaw in that cunning plan !
Emirates are not a former operator, well not yet .....
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Bagso, it's being said on another site that in fact the airline in question is a current operator at MAN on a daily basis. This is adding to the mystery and intrigue. But it's not EK to SFO apparently.
Lets just hope that whoever it is and to wherever it plans to fly, does actually happen.
Lets just hope that whoever it is and to wherever it plans to fly, does actually happen.
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Changes to Chinese Visa applications announced !
Announcing the changes, Home Secretary Theresa May said the number of Chinese visitors to Britain was "soaring".
We NEED a slice of this action and if packaged correctly there is massive appeal In terms of Manchester , Chester, Beatles tours, Lakes, Chatsworth etc.
Let's hope the Chinese forum bares it's teeth !
Announcing the changes, Home Secretary Theresa May said the number of Chinese visitors to Britain was "soaring".
We NEED a slice of this action and if packaged correctly there is massive appeal In terms of Manchester , Chester, Beatles tours, Lakes, Chatsworth etc.
Let's hope the Chinese forum bares it's teeth !