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So where are these based aircrafts that someone insisted were coming to DSA?
Also the latest post on the Facebook page of a customer trying to book through Thomson is interesting.
2014 with the current flight offerings will see passenger numbers fall to less than 600k.
Also the latest post on the Facebook page of a customer trying to book through Thomson is interesting.
2014 with the current flight offerings will see passenger numbers fall to less than 600k.
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Hi TimmyW. Did you see my post earlier? I am keen to hear your views on what management should do to fix things? What steps need to be made that have not yet been tried?
Or do you feel that there's no sustainable market for DSA at all?
Or do you feel that there's no sustainable market for DSA at all?
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TimmyW I've just seen the comment you’re on about on the DSA facebook page regarding Thomson's. I just hope that it’s not true and she has been told the wrong information by the call center staff, because if Thomson's were to close the DSA base it would be a major loss for the airport and would mean the loss of jobs which nobody wants to see…..
I've got to admit it doesn’t give you any confidence when the airport don't even take a few minutes to reply to the question from the said person. Especially after the way Peel have just handled the situation up at MME with Thomson and Balkan Holidays pull outs.
I've got to admit it doesn’t give you any confidence when the airport don't even take a few minutes to reply to the question from the said person. Especially after the way Peel have just handled the situation up at MME with Thomson and Balkan Holidays pull outs.
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I find it hard to believe that the management hasn't been able to secure a single new route in what is over 3 years now. Vilinius being the last one.
The management's press releases are full of hot air, and get their facts so wide of the mark it is untrue.
People will fly from DSA - as previous figures have shown. I'd be interested to see what the load factors on current routes are, and ones that have been withdrawn over the last few years.
The management's press releases are full of hot air, and get their facts so wide of the mark it is untrue.
People will fly from DSA - as previous figures have shown. I'd be interested to see what the load factors on current routes are, and ones that have been withdrawn over the last few years.
TimmyW - you mention that you'd like to see load factors. Perhaps you'd be kind enough to do some analysis of the CAA stats and share them with us ? Provisional stats for Oct 2013 are already out as well
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So you think it's all mangement and not airlines choosing to serve markets from bigger airports? How can management fix that then? Incentives only get you so far. What's the fix in your view?
Let's set aside Facebook and the press releases, they're usually full of hot air in all businesses and markets, not to be trusted or used for analysis.
Let's set aside Facebook and the press releases, they're usually full of hot air in all businesses and markets, not to be trusted or used for analysis.
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Humberside is adding routes - hardly a bigger airport.
From the people I know close to the airport, the management have no interest in DSA as passenger offering. They are far more interested in the land aquisition.
From the people I know close to the airport, the management have no interest in DSA as passenger offering. They are far more interested in the land aquisition.
Timmy - the CAA stats tell you how many passengers flew each month between each UK airport and each domestic or foreign airport. Look particularly at tables 12.1 and 12.2
You will also need to know the schedules of the route in question, and the number of seats that an airline uses on a route. I'm assuming you don't have access to OAG data or any other paid-for source of information. If in doubt, it's a fair initial assumption that the schedules for summer 2014 are similiar to that of summer 2013 in most cases. You can find number of seats per aircraft on many places - wikipedia entries for each airline are a easy-access starting point
If 2 airlines fly the same route, it becomes a little more complex to do any analysis - and you may need to be a little more creative in your use of other pieces of data.
You will also need to know the schedules of the route in question, and the number of seats that an airline uses on a route. I'm assuming you don't have access to OAG data or any other paid-for source of information. If in doubt, it's a fair initial assumption that the schedules for summer 2014 are similiar to that of summer 2013 in most cases. You can find number of seats per aircraft on many places - wikipedia entries for each airline are a easy-access starting point
If 2 airlines fly the same route, it becomes a little more complex to do any analysis - and you may need to be a little more creative in your use of other pieces of data.
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From the people I know close to the airport, the management have no interest in DSA as passenger offering. They are far more interested in the land aquisition.
Is that so different from they can't grow the business and so therefore to cut their losses they may wish to run down commercial aviation and sell the land. It's getting hard to tell these days !
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He may mean my post about two Boeing 727-200s. As I did not get the job I applied for with them, I am unsure of what is happening anymore. One aircraft is ready and I believe they have at least one crew I am surprised it is not with you already.We will all have to wait and see what happens next.
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I'm still surprised on the apparent response of Thomson to a potential customer as I mentioned before.
It isn't exactly a comment a sales advisor would come out with for the sake of it
It isn't exactly a comment a sales advisor would come out with for the sake of it
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Also reading the DTV thread, can anyone seriously say they don't see DSA going the same way in a few years?
The airport has very few flights remaining, and year and year it is being dwindled down. Peel's relationship with Thomson can't be good after how they were treated at DTV, so I can see them stopping operations soon at DSA.
Anyone care to predict? Or is it inevitble?
The airport has very few flights remaining, and year and year it is being dwindled down. Peel's relationship with Thomson can't be good after how they were treated at DTV, so I can see them stopping operations soon at DSA.
Anyone care to predict? Or is it inevitble?
From reading the thread, it sounds like we're discussing whether Thomson will pull out of DSA based purely on a Facebook comment by someone who just wants to book a holiday. Has anything been substantiated from some sort of official or semi-official source regarding Thomson's future at Doncaster ?
With DTV, the discussion of Thomson leaving Durham Tees Valley was based initially on Thomson wiping all DTV flights from their website and pointing customers to other airports. The Thomson website still seems to price up requests for flights from DSA in 2014, even if Kos is not listed. Perhaps we could wait until there is something from a reputable source before trying to decide whether Thomson will or won't fly from DSA in summer 2014 ?
With DTV, the discussion of Thomson leaving Durham Tees Valley was based initially on Thomson wiping all DTV flights from their website and pointing customers to other airports. The Thomson website still seems to price up requests for flights from DSA in 2014, even if Kos is not listed. Perhaps we could wait until there is something from a reputable source before trying to decide whether Thomson will or won't fly from DSA in summer 2014 ?
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Just to make it clear, Peel dropped TOM at MME, not the other way round - the TOM website then directed anybody looking at MME flights towards flts from DSA
We are not wanted, says Thomson holidays as it announces flights from Durham Tees Valley Airport to be axed (From The Northern Echo)
In a statement, Thomson said: "Following a business review of operations by Durham Tees Valley Airport, Thomson and First Choice have been notified that they will no longer be able to operate their flights from the airport."
Ghost town?
Looking at yesterdays departures board it was a quiet day. 2 flights departed before 9 am and the next departure at 20.20 (thats 8pm not the year 2020)
Now what was all the controlled airspace for? How quiet does it have to get before airspace is removed?
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Now what was all the controlled airspace for? How quiet does it have to get before airspace is removed?
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