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DSA's largest potential is its runway & the land, given better access its position also. There are more regional distribution depots in the area than other Yorkshire towns and cities due to the excellent road network links (Ikea, Amazon, Adsa, B & Q, Tesco, Aldi, BMW, Unilever). The New rail freight depot is testament to this, and the Airport can enhance logistical options for all. So freight not passengers is the biggest potential and that's where the FARRS link will win customers.
Passenger wise the airport needs to entice more scheduled rather than charter flights and Peel need to go head to head with LBA boasting DSA's superior access over that of LBA (with link road). They have Wizz which they should be bending over backwards to get further route expansion (Czec/Hung). Domestically, GLA/EDN is probably the only sustainable route (all others are too short a drive or train journey). Outside of the UK it needs scheduled for the holiday home owners in France, Spain, Portugal, Canaries, Turkey & Cyprus.
There is potential for a Hub route, but that must be served by a National Carrier for onward connections (at sensible timings) KLM have got to be favorite (but remember they are at HUY & DTV for the petrochemical customers who want door to door convenience).
Long haul other than charter holiday flights is a dream. DSA in its current setup is not going to take daily schedules to the States & Middle east from MAN (LBA & EMA don't manage this either).
Try entice more Holiday Charters, but the days of six large tour operators are gone and this market has consolidated considerably. Remember that the charter Co's are holiday companies first and airlines second.
The current and proposed infrastructure is capable of all this - the only area where concern should exist is the dreadful inbound passport control area which needs expansion if the airport is to handle more than one aircraft landing at a time & to be more welcoming. So other than that Peel have everything they need to go touting.
Passenger wise the airport needs to entice more scheduled rather than charter flights and Peel need to go head to head with LBA boasting DSA's superior access over that of LBA (with link road). They have Wizz which they should be bending over backwards to get further route expansion (Czec/Hung). Domestically, GLA/EDN is probably the only sustainable route (all others are too short a drive or train journey). Outside of the UK it needs scheduled for the holiday home owners in France, Spain, Portugal, Canaries, Turkey & Cyprus.
There is potential for a Hub route, but that must be served by a National Carrier for onward connections (at sensible timings) KLM have got to be favorite (but remember they are at HUY & DTV for the petrochemical customers who want door to door convenience).
Long haul other than charter holiday flights is a dream. DSA in its current setup is not going to take daily schedules to the States & Middle east from MAN (LBA & EMA don't manage this either).
Try entice more Holiday Charters, but the days of six large tour operators are gone and this market has consolidated considerably. Remember that the charter Co's are holiday companies first and airlines second.
The current and proposed infrastructure is capable of all this - the only area where concern should exist is the dreadful inbound passport control area which needs expansion if the airport is to handle more than one aircraft landing at a time & to be more welcoming. So other than that Peel have everything they need to go touting.
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G-FORZ - couldn't agree more re inward passports. Arrived @ 0 dark 'o clock. with one guy on passports for a full B737. We were last off plane & had to wait outside in the rain. Still use the place tho'.
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Thank you a very well thought out post.
And your right freight is the key, Out of interest if there was ever a situation where it grows to the point you need more than the current stands where else on the current airport be used?.
Are there plans for expanding the apron
And your right freight is the key, Out of interest if there was ever a situation where it grows to the point you need more than the current stands where else on the current airport be used?.
Are there plans for expanding the apron
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Someone has asked on the airports Facebook page about the possibility of an Amsterdam route, and DSA have quite bluntly stated their are no plans for the route in the future.
Pretty much sums it up.
On the subject of Thomson, they have been steadily reducing their offerings for a number of years now, with a further 3 routes cut for next summer. It won't be too long until DSA is down to one based summer aircraft.
Pretty much sums it up.
On the subject of Thomson, they have been steadily reducing their offerings for a number of years now, with a further 3 routes cut for next summer. It won't be too long until DSA is down to one based summer aircraft.
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Someone has asked on the airports Facebook page about the possibility of an Amsterdam route, and DSA have quite bluntly stated their are no plans for the route in the future.
Someone has asked on the airports Facebook page about the possibility of an Amsterdam route, and DSA have quite bluntly stated their are no plans for the route in the future.
Really?
https://www.facebook.com/doncastersheffieldairport
Can't see it, can anyone else?
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It's not so much that there isn't one, but its the couldn't care less attitude. DSA hasn't announced a new destination in 3 years. Vilinius was the last one.
How many has it lost though?
The company I used to work for in Sheffield used the airport for business on several routes. Namely Dublin, Belfast, Amsterdam and on the odd occasion Prague. Obviously all these routes have since ceased, but I know, from speaking to people who still work for the firm, the contact DSA regularly to see about the likelyhood of the routes returning. Number of replies to their enquiries...........ZERO!
Now, being from Doncaster I want to see my local airport succeed, despite my "negative" posts on here, however the reality is, the airport is sinking fast. And the owners/management or whoever do not seem to care.
How many has it lost though?
The company I used to work for in Sheffield used the airport for business on several routes. Namely Dublin, Belfast, Amsterdam and on the odd occasion Prague. Obviously all these routes have since ceased, but I know, from speaking to people who still work for the firm, the contact DSA regularly to see about the likelyhood of the routes returning. Number of replies to their enquiries...........ZERO!
Now, being from Doncaster I want to see my local airport succeed, despite my "negative" posts on here, however the reality is, the airport is sinking fast. And the owners/management or whoever do not seem to care.
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I see Peel have told Thomson they can no longer operate from DTV. I wonder what this will do with relations for DSA, and if it has a part to play in the several routes lost for 2014.
We are not wanted, says Thomson holidays as it announces flights from Durham Tees Valley Airport to be axed (From The Northern Echo)
We are not wanted, says Thomson holidays as it announces flights from Durham Tees Valley Airport to be axed (From The Northern Echo)
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Just reading about the situation at DTV, and Peels clear plan of closing the airport bit by bit, I can definitely see the same situation at DSA.
Their relationship with Thomson isn't going to be very good now is it? Thomson will probably want out at the earliest opportunity.
Their relationship with Thomson isn't going to be very good now is it? Thomson will probably want out at the earliest opportunity.
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Wizz flights starting to appear for Summer 2014. Quite nice to see there's not quite so many late evening flights. I know this could all change but this is how it's currently looking:
KTW is about 9:30pm 4x a week
GDN about 8:30/9pm 4x a week
POZ and WRO are late afternoon/early evening at about 5pm 3x and 2x weekly respectively
WAW and VNO are early morning at about 7/8am both 2x week
KTW is about 9:30pm 4x a week
GDN about 8:30/9pm 4x a week
POZ and WRO are late afternoon/early evening at about 5pm 3x and 2x weekly respectively
WAW and VNO are early morning at about 7/8am both 2x week
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Free Press reporting that the Jersey flights are likely to be cut.
Although probably not the fault of DSA this time, however it is yet ANOTHER lost route that won't be replaced.
Although probably not the fault of DSA this time, however it is yet ANOTHER lost route that won't be replaced.
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TimmyW what do they need to do, that they have not already tried to turn matters around? You're not "negative", you're "NEGATIVE!!!!!!!". What's the cure or is DSA an answer to a question no one asked.
While I've no inside knowledge, I'd have thought the Jersey flights (which operate at weekends to many small regional airports and have done for years) are relatively safe for the following reasons:
1. although scheduled services, my understanding is they have large block bookings from tour operators, with the surplus seats sold on the open market;
2. they operate in what is the slack period for what is still largely a Mon-Fri business orientated airline - what other markets do these relatively short ranged, low capacity aircraft serve at the weekend?
1. although scheduled services, my understanding is they have large block bookings from tour operators, with the surplus seats sold on the open market;
2. they operate in what is the slack period for what is still largely a Mon-Fri business orientated airline - what other markets do these relatively short ranged, low capacity aircraft serve at the weekend?
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Jersey is NOT a "core base". When the Gatwick service goes, the "core base" will, most likely, go with it - as there will only be 1 a/c left there for the Southampton service.
Same applies to Guernsey !
Jersey is NOT a "core base". When the Gatwick service goes, the "core base" will, most likely, go with it - as there will only be 1 a/c left there for the Southampton service.
Same applies to Guernsey !