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The train or any form of public transport is not an option for passengers catching Easyjet's first departures of the day. Nor is it an option for the last flights back into Southend at night. Wonder if Southend will be providing camper beds for stranded passengers who think that Southend is well connected?
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LTNMan, There is a Premier Inn by the 06 threshold, 5 mins from the terminal by cab, and the new Holiday Inn will open next to the terminal in a couple of months. In addition there's an on-site taxi service, booking desk in the terminal, with a fleet of brand new MPV's parked outside.
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Just happened to notice EZY9001 went Malta - Southend tonight landed
about 19.10.
I assume it was in maintenance but is it for training at Southend or more PR?
Per flightradar24 it has not moved since.
Pete
about 19.10.
I assume it was in maintenance but is it for training at Southend or more PR?
Per flightradar24 it has not moved since.
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London Southend Airport tries to process all passengers as efficiently as possible. We suggest that all charter flight passengers arrive three hours before their flight, and all scheduled flight passengers arrive two hours before their flight.
London Southend Airport tries to process all passengers as efficiently as possible. We suggest that all charter flight passengers arrive three hours before their flight, and all scheduled flight passengers arrive two hours before their flight.
There is a Premier Inn by the 06 threshold, 5 mins from the terminal by cab, and the new Holiday Inn will open next to the terminal in a couple of months.
Southend might well be good as a daytime airport but I think I will give it a miss before 8:30am or after 9:30pm
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Just pointing out a few unpalatable facts to those who don't want to hear them.
So which motorway do passengers use to get them into London when there is no public transport?
So which motorway do passengers use to get them into London when there is no public transport?
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first train dep southend victoria 04.00 arr SEN 04.05 last train liverpool street 00.50 arr SEN 01.47. X30 bus hourly from 0200 dep southend bus station journewy time 10min SEN via chelmsford to stansted . X30 hourly stansted via chelmsford from 04.00 to SEN journey time 1hr 10min
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which motorway do passengers use to get them into London when there is no public transport?
I'm sorry to sound rude but if Luton made efforts to remain competitive then its cries for attention would not fall on such deaf ears.
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first train dep southend victoria 04.00 arr SEN 04.05 last train liverpool street 00.50 arr SEN 01.47. X30 bus hourly from 0200 dep southend bus station journewy time 10min SEN via chelmsford to stansted . X30 hourly stansted via chelmsford from 04.00 to SEN journey time 1hr 10min
Sunday it is even worse. First train of the day arrives Southend Airport 09:17.
Can't see how the X30 service helps Southend's passengers.
Why are people here being rude. People here might not like the cold truth but everything I say is a fact.
There is nothing wrong with Southend particularly is you happen to be a halibut living at the end of Southend’s pier or have flight to catch from say 8:30 but Jonny Foreigner could be in for a shock if he expects a public transport service if he arrives late at night.
Given time no doubt this will be corrected but Southend can only really call itself London Southend for part of the night as it is impossible to get to and from the capital in the early hours unless you drive or take a taxi.
Maybe I am being a little hard on this east coast airport but I have driven to Southend many times and it doesn't seem that close to London by car .
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2 hours for scheduled and 3 hours for chartered flights are the norm no matter what size of the airport! I have no doubt that national express will be looking into bringing in a route from SEN to London Victoria or something similar soon as demand picks up! I could be wrong but dosn't LTN generally have reputation to grind to a holt during rush hour due to bad road network around the airport?
Also, if you look at the routes from SEN these are looking at more lesuire passengers as opposed to business travellers and they are more likely to book an airport hotel to stay there the night as opposed to getting a train @6AM.
Personally I would not travel to LTN due to the journey from where I live. I.e M25, M1, and then with traffic congestion around the airport at rush hour. Nothing against LTN but preference really. I find the trip to LGW a lot easier.
Buster I cannot deny that has not played on my mind with the amount of GA traffic around SEN. But hey, lets see how it goes! Looking forward to my first flight out of SEN shortly.
Also, if you look at the routes from SEN these are looking at more lesuire passengers as opposed to business travellers and they are more likely to book an airport hotel to stay there the night as opposed to getting a train @6AM.
Personally I would not travel to LTN due to the journey from where I live. I.e M25, M1, and then with traffic congestion around the airport at rush hour. Nothing against LTN but preference really. I find the trip to LGW a lot easier.
Buster I cannot deny that has not played on my mind with the amount of GA traffic around SEN. But hey, lets see how it goes! Looking forward to my first flight out of SEN shortly.
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I'm sorry LTNman but you must be rather dim if you don't see that remarks such as "nothing wrong with Southend .... if you happen to be a halibut living at the end of Southend's pier ..." are likely to provoke a lively response.
From 2135 until 2305 there is a train every 30 minutes to London, so few people are going to be affected unless there are inbound flight delays - quite possible of course, but probably rare. Yes, at present the lack of a train from London to give an arrival SEN before 0632 is a pity. You and I don't know what is going on behind the scenes to try to rectify that, yet you speak as if that's going to be the situation for ever and a day. Also, as Captinbirdseye mentioned, it seems quite likely that coach services will be introduced once pax numbers warrant it.
Finally, don't speak as if the majority of pax arrive by train because they don't - the latest figures for SOU, which has its own train station, show that only 18% of travellers use public transport and I believe that includes taxis.
Just give SEN a break and let it bed down before slating it. I must admit I do find it very surprising that LTN, with its 10 million ppa, still suffers horrendous local traffic congestion which means you have to allow an extra hour if you're driving to catch an early morning flight - but no airport infrastructure is perfect is it?
From 2135 until 2305 there is a train every 30 minutes to London, so few people are going to be affected unless there are inbound flight delays - quite possible of course, but probably rare. Yes, at present the lack of a train from London to give an arrival SEN before 0632 is a pity. You and I don't know what is going on behind the scenes to try to rectify that, yet you speak as if that's going to be the situation for ever and a day. Also, as Captinbirdseye mentioned, it seems quite likely that coach services will be introduced once pax numbers warrant it.
Finally, don't speak as if the majority of pax arrive by train because they don't - the latest figures for SOU, which has its own train station, show that only 18% of travellers use public transport and I believe that includes taxis.
Just give SEN a break and let it bed down before slating it. I must admit I do find it very surprising that LTN, with its 10 million ppa, still suffers horrendous local traffic congestion which means you have to allow an extra hour if you're driving to catch an early morning flight - but no airport infrastructure is perfect is it?
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The posts by LTNMAN are typical of what is normally posted on the Stansted thread , they always seem to think any expansion/extra fights within 100 miles of Luton should of gone to Luton & do not like it. Just take a look at the last few posts on the Stansted thread.
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I was chatting to a couple of easyJet first officers recently who are looking forward to flying out of Southend, but not the flying outside controlled airspace in busy class G to get in and out! TCAS is a wonderful tool, but useless against non-transponder equipped aircraft.
I did comfort them when I pointed out that Class D protection will be available during the Olympic Games!
I did comfort them when I pointed out that Class D protection will be available during the Olympic Games!
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2 hours for scheduled and 3 hours for chartered flights are the norm no matter what size of the airport
The posts by LTNMAN are typical of what is normally posted on the Stansted thread , they always seem to think any expansion/extra fights within 100 miles of Luton should of gone to Luton & do not like it. Just take a look at the last few posts on the Stansted thread.
SEN has a train station and LTN doesn't.
From 2135 until 2305 there is a train every 30 minutes to London, so few people are going to be affected unless there are inbound flight delays
Finally, don't speak as if the majority of pax arrive by train because they don't
Does Southend have a good future as a London Airport? Well actually I hope so.
OltonPete - the aircraft is in for a paint job, it's covered in yellow patch repairs on the skin. I don't know if it's coming out all white or back into the easyJet c/s because as it stands the aircraft has no seats installed, making me think it maybe be an end of lease job.
G-EZEZ was sat on the ramp today and flew SEN-LGW, this aircraft came out with a slightly different colour scheme, with the easyJet titles on the side only coming up to the overwing exits, maybe this a/c will also be leaving the fleet, who knows..
G-EZEZ was sat on the ramp today and flew SEN-LGW, this aircraft came out with a slightly different colour scheme, with the easyJet titles on the side only coming up to the overwing exits, maybe this a/c will also be leaving the fleet, who knows..
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Buster, I'm sure you know that TCAS is not the only tool available.
Close coordination with TC, Deconfliction Service from Southend (SSR at the start) Mode S closely followed behind.
Plus, extensive awareness publications and briefings throughout the GA community & Airfields. Workshops with the First Officers and Captains including Southend and NATS controllers that will be involved with operations in/out of Southend. Education and a comprehensive Risk assessments carried out by the Airlines that are or are looking to operated from Southend.
Even Class D has 'unknowns'.
LTNman, Seriously, what are you afraid of?
Why are you so concerned? EasyJet have done their research, they know what access there is to and from the Airport, and when.
Access via the A127 or A13 is not the hell you portray.
Southend also has the benefit of a second line (C2C) within 2 miles of the Airport (similar train times).
Why wouldnt they push the station as they do? Its a huge asset. Whenever I travel from Stansted (Early morning or late at night) I never consider the train anyway. The same when i arrive at my foreign destination. I do research before I depart to ensure I have a transfer though or hotel nearby.
I dont see that as a big difference at Southend for visitors.
Its good to see investment and expansion is aviation at this time.... especially at Southend.
Close coordination with TC, Deconfliction Service from Southend (SSR at the start) Mode S closely followed behind.
Plus, extensive awareness publications and briefings throughout the GA community & Airfields. Workshops with the First Officers and Captains including Southend and NATS controllers that will be involved with operations in/out of Southend. Education and a comprehensive Risk assessments carried out by the Airlines that are or are looking to operated from Southend.
Even Class D has 'unknowns'.
LTNman, Seriously, what are you afraid of?
Why are you so concerned? EasyJet have done their research, they know what access there is to and from the Airport, and when.
Access via the A127 or A13 is not the hell you portray.
Southend also has the benefit of a second line (C2C) within 2 miles of the Airport (similar train times).
Why wouldnt they push the station as they do? Its a huge asset. Whenever I travel from Stansted (Early morning or late at night) I never consider the train anyway. The same when i arrive at my foreign destination. I do research before I depart to ensure I have a transfer though or hotel nearby.
I dont see that as a big difference at Southend for visitors.
Its good to see investment and expansion is aviation at this time.... especially at Southend.
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if im flying from luton or anyother airport before 06.30am,i would still have to leave home the previouse night to get to the airport,much the same getting home landing after midnight,would still have to wait for the first train,or get a later flight