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Old 18th Mar 2012, 23:11
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Looks good but I am surprised that 1) there are not all that many check in desks when considering the target growth and 2) not a single element of EasyJet orange. Traditionally doesnt the terminal become one big satsuma once EasyJet move in??
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Old 18th Mar 2012, 23:36
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southend just wanted to get the terminal up and running,planing aplication has gone to the council for an extention which will give a lot more room for more check in desks etc,etc,if given the go ahead ,it will take less than a year to build the extention and add it to the new terminal.all the main services are ther(water,electricity,drains).so by the time they reach 2mill there should be plenty of room
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Old 19th Mar 2012, 06:06
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Traditionally airlines used to use a pair of check-in desks per flight but now airlines like easyjet check-in several flights at the same time from any of their desks that are open. I would have thought that no more than 4 desks would be needed until more aircraft are based at Southend.

Who is the handling agent at Southend?
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Old 19th Mar 2012, 06:17
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It would be interesting to see what will happen if/when STN is sold what will happen to SEN. I.e if the new consortium offers better rates, will we say EZY moving routes back to STN? I can see easy being very crude here. Bouncing off four airports to get the best rates! We shall see!
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Old 19th Mar 2012, 08:27
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LTN Man,

Southend will be doing their own handling, in-house. Stobart reckon they can do it far cheaper and more efficiently than bringing in an outside contractor like Servisair etc
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Old 19th Mar 2012, 08:41
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I thought that was againest eu rules that airport owener cannot be airport operator that it had to be open to competition?
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Old 19th Mar 2012, 09:26
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An interesting point. I have a hazy recollection that Stobart isn't actually the legal owner of the airport, that remains with the municipal authorities.... but no doubt someone has more accurate information on this?
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Old 19th Mar 2012, 10:13
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Originally Posted by stab3.5up
I thought that was againest eu rules that airport owener cannot be airport operator that it had to be open to competition?
If you mean that the airport operator can't be the only provider of handling services, that only applies to airports >2m pax - see here.
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Old 19th Mar 2012, 14:07
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I know it'll be a few years down the line but assuming Easyjet stay at SEN for the 10 years of the deal I wonder if they will have an all A320 fleet as they are now only taking delivery of this variant and not A319's.

I think on average they keep aircraft about 6-8 years and then replace them.

Could A320's operate the longer routes from Southend? Presumably they can do the BFS and AMS OK
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Old 19th Mar 2012, 14:51
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This thread is supposed to be about SEN and not about any particular (tangerine) airline nor about some dump on top of a Bedfordshire hill that needs knocking down and starting anew.

Despite all the nayers SEN is conveniently road and rail connected to London and the national road and rail network, sure SEN could have a longer runway, improved instruments etc, but so then could many an airport ... if we want to get in to a "my dick is bigger than your dick" contest then perhaps such should be taken up in 'Spotters Corner'.

SEN is, effectively, a brand new airport, buy something in a shop and it has a 12 months warranty, give SEN it's 12 months and if, during this term, it phucks up then criticize it to hell ..... until then give it a chance!

Amen ... Right, time for another San Miguel.

Have a nice day y'all ...
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Old 19th Mar 2012, 18:02
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could not have put it better myself,lets hope LTNMAN will find another airport to moan about,and leave SEN alone
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Old 19th Mar 2012, 22:43
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PF - ok, so we are not now permitted to talk about SEN's future largest carrier. On that basis there isnt much more to say about this airport - it has been built, its new, congratulations. Dont get me wrong I am pleased that Stobart has pulled this one out the bag but to tailor the thread to suit SEN fans is not really the purpose of this forum.

The comments made concerning EZY are entirely relevant as far as I can see.

It seems to be unless you are full of praise, you are not welcome to contribute???
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Old 19th Mar 2012, 23:08
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anyone is welcome to contribute their thoughts on SEN,but some people have more negative thoughts than others.just give us some time to get things up and running,there will be problems but they will get sorted,the tin hut on top of a bedfordshire hill is not perfect
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Old 20th Mar 2012, 02:38
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Cloud1,

Of course one should talk about future carriers but it becomes ridiculous, at this early stage, to suggest that SEN's future is in the destiny of EZY and then thread drifts about what if EZY go all A320 rather than A319 etc.

Bearing in mind Stobart needed to buy shares in Aer Arran to get them in to SEN the Irish routes are nothing to sing and dance about but, crikes, the new airport only opened a few days ago, operators are not going to switch airports without seeing the airport in operation.

But Cloud1 ... How can you say, with any certainty, that EZY are SEN's future largest carrier? ... You don't know that any more than the rest of us don't know that ... it's a new airport, it's only just opened, all will become clear in due course and not on day 1!
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Old 20th Mar 2012, 18:32
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Now you are being a tad on the pedantic side - Easyjet is currently the intended largest carrier. Unless other airlines fall over themselves to base more units there then things will change. But reality check, SEN will never be LHR

Anyway this is getting stupid, is there anything else that we can discuss reference SEN? Topic change required
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Old 20th Mar 2012, 19:00
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what sen needs now is time to bed in then in 12 months time we will see where things are and then people can say who's next with what ac untill then nobody knows what is in store for this brand new airport so lets just wish stobart's well and see where things take us.
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Old 20th Mar 2012, 20:09
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It's been a massive coup for Stobart to attract EZY.
Not just a handful of routes from other bases, but a base of three fully-utilised aircraft, for ten years, gained at a time when there were almost no commercial operations at all.
I think it's inevitable that EZY will be the principal carrier at SEN for a number of years.
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Old 20th Mar 2012, 21:49
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southend does not want to become another heathrow
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Old 20th Mar 2012, 22:03
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EZY have done this in the past, at LTN, then LGW and now SEN, easyJet seem to have no great love for STN, but that is hardly surprising, it was inherited as part of Go. easyJet seem to be making a habit of stealing a march on other airlines when opportunities present themselves. Well done to easy, I say. Hopefully SEN will do really well.
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Old 21st Mar 2012, 01:38
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Hardly stealing a march ... SEN is long enough for A319's but not long enough for B737-800's ... Go figure!
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