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Old 21st Mar 2012, 06:26
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06/24 1,856m 6,089ft. Is the full length available for departures?

Can't remember the last time I have seen a Ryanair 737-800 backtrack at LTN. From the intersection the take off run is 6000ft so I would have thought that many Ryanair routes could operate from Southend if the full length is available.

What will happen to the old terminal. I have heard the cafe is still open there?

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Old 21st Mar 2012, 08:10
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SEN is not a NEW airport.

OK it has a longer runway, a new terminal and new(ish) owners but it is certainly not new.

Never the less I wish all concerned luck with their new venture.
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Old 21st Mar 2012, 08:50
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Believe me, if you had been supporting this airport for over fifty years you would call the present situation a new airport. A new control tower, new radar, new railway station, new passenger terminal, new runway extension, new taxiway, new aircraft stands, new car parks, new hotel. The whole focus of the airport moved from the southern to the eastern side of the site. It looks and feels like a new airport. Trust me.
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Old 21st Mar 2012, 09:03
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The last time I went through, it was a bus ride on an RF coach from Rochford station, wood panelling and formica everywhere, BAF hostesses in navy blue uniforms with white gloves, cars on scissor lifts being loaded into the front of the Carvair, DAT DC4's billowing smoke on start up and my Mum moaning because the return fare from SEN-OST was just over £7.

I do hope that my next planned visit will prove that a 'new' facility is now in operation!
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Old 21st Mar 2012, 09:12
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Ah but can we have a few Carvairs pls

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Old 21st Mar 2012, 09:13
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Who remembers when BAF's cabin crew uniform included the wearing of hot pants?
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Old 21st Mar 2012, 10:12
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06/24 1,856m 6,089ft. Is the full length available for departures?

Can't remember the last time I have seen a Ryanair 737-800 backtrack at LTN. From the intersection the take off run is 6000ft so I would have thought that many Ryanair routes could operate from Southend if the full length is available.
Luton r/w 26 departure from A: TORA 1789, TODA 2698
Luton r/w 08 departure from B: TORA 1724, TODA 2586
Southend both r/w directions: TORA 1739, TODA 1799
So not a lot in it on TORA but I suspect it's the TODA that clinches it. I suspect the obstacles under the take-off path are more performance-constraining at Southend than Luton too.
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Old 21st Mar 2012, 10:28
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Hardly stealing a march ... SEN is long enough for A319's but not long enough for B737-800's ... Go figure!
GOL in Brazil flys sheduled flights in to Santos Dumont, Rio de Janeiro with 737-800 and the runway there is only 1,320m long. Boeing developed a Short Field Performance improvement package in 2005/06 for the 737NG, and a number of other operators around the world that has this SFpip installed. Norwegian is one of these operators, and they are going to do a flight test to FAE later this spring (TORA/TODA/ASDA/LDA 1,799m) with their 737-800 SFpip. Of course, Ryanair don't have SFpip.
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Old 21st Mar 2012, 10:30
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BAF stewardesses!

Ah yes ... 'Running the Gauntlet' past the cabin crew rest room, that interesting aroma of perfume, hairspray, and cigarette smoke! The cheerful cries of greeting - I'll leave those to your imagination - but think St. Trinian's and you won't be far off.

I enjoyed just about every minute of my three years with BAF.

Exception: those DUS/HAJ night newspaper flights, and sitting on the freight apron at CDG at 03:00, sipping hot soup from a Thermos, wasn't exactly huge fun.

Well, well, after decades in the doldrums, things seem to be looking up for SEN.
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Old 21st Mar 2012, 12:29
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The new radar appears to have gone fully operational today, with lots of new squawks being handed out.
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Old 21st Mar 2012, 18:29
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The Radar is the Debden SSR feed overlaid onto the existing Primary radar. Today was continued training of ATCO's.
The new onsite SSR/Mode S Radar is still still going through testing and evaluation, but not far behind.
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Old 22nd Mar 2012, 08:15
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The easyJet launch flight takes place next Monday with a Press jolly to BCN, returning next day.

I used LTN when flying to CDG last weekend and there were just two aspects which I hope will prove a better pax experience at SEN. The time to get from the Mid Stay car park to the terminal was 19 minutes and I and fifty others spent an uncomfortable 20 minutes standing on the stairs down to the departure gate - quite why EZY make you do this I don't know. Otherwise the 'LTN experience' was good and some pax will find the lack of shopping at SEN a disappointment I'm sure. Returning yesterday evening it took just 12 minutes to transit the terminal and another 7 minutes to reach the car park, so no one could complain about that.

As far as other carriers being lined up for SEN this year is concerned, there doesn't seem to be much definite news on that, but they've really got enough to be getting on with. It's a pity that SEN didn't have an official delegation at French Connect as there was a lot of interest in SEN among those attending and copies of the SEN brochure were in demand with airlines and airports alike. Most people there did seem to view SEN as a new airport to serve London. Assuming the industry is in reasonable shape next year I think we shall see more airlines and routes for 2013.
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Old 22nd Mar 2012, 09:30
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Does anyone else rember the episosde of Game for a laugh where Jeremy Beadle stuck a landing light in a mans garden and a 'council inspector' told the house owner they were extending the runway. Wonder if he is still waiting for Beadle to turn up again? which he wont!
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Old 22nd Mar 2012, 10:28
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Some job news.

LSA - Careers | London Southend Airport
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Old 22nd Mar 2012, 17:44
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Saw a lorry trailer parked in a field facing the M25 traffic today carrying a fly Southend Airport billboard. It also mentioned Easyjet and Aer Arran. This was located close to the Chelmsford turn off.
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Old 23rd Mar 2012, 19:03
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garden lights

One of the guys installing the 24 approach lights told me one was going in the front garden of a bungalow on Rochford Rd, perhaps Beadle is still about!
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Old 25th Mar 2012, 18:42
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Hi does anyone know the day and time the first easyJet inaugural flight will depart?
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Old 25th Mar 2012, 22:33
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07.00hrs. 2nd April. To Belfast. I will be on it!
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Old 26th Mar 2012, 07:05
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The easyJet press/competition winners flight departs to BCN at 10:00 this morning. Great to see the Germania A319, Jet2 B733 and easyJet A319 on stand together this morning at the terminal.
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Yet another EasyJet route been announced. Geneva 3x weekly from December
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