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Old 2nd Apr 2016, 20:58
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See the sale story is being carried by the Belfast Telegraph
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Old 2nd Apr 2016, 23:38
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So long as the new investors have an interest in maintaining the facility as an airport, there should be no concern...
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Old 2nd Apr 2016, 23:48
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Very true EI BUD look at what Balfour Beatty are doing with Blackpool airport
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Old 3rd Apr 2016, 06:42
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One has to wonder what has the BFS team been working, 'an exciting project ', as I recall. Could they be trying to raise funds to buy BHD?

This is plausable, however,

1. Could this get the green light in terms of competition concerns etc.?
2. Would it explain the heavy PR activity by BFS this year? New jobs etc.
3. In terms of a politics lobby would the folks on the hill exorbitant those local to BHD block the move, they are likely to have little means financially to take an interest in the airport.. But unlikely at this stage thst would be necessary.


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Old 3rd Apr 2016, 15:35
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From what I've read 3i are backing a deal. That should be good because they invest heavily into businesses to grow them.
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Old 3rd Apr 2016, 15:47
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Grow by developing the land and making their money back quicker?
Or making money on an airport that is competing at rock bottom prices with BFS?

Not meaning to sound sarcastic, it is a genuine question
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Old 3rd Apr 2016, 16:37
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I don't think that's the style of 3i, its more about developing a strategy and making a business more profitable for a number of years before selling to an experienced operator. They have aviation experience.
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Old 3rd Apr 2016, 18:56
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BHD2BFS ...my concern exactly.
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Old 3rd Apr 2016, 19:13
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Not to go off track and I hope it would never happens, but it's not impossible
I don't think a public appeal would even stand ground of the land was to be redeveloped as there is an airport up the road that could accommodate all of BHDs traffic

It would be a great site for a national stadium and multi use land
Again I'm not saying it would happen but who knows what a multi million company could do with the land
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Old 3rd Apr 2016, 19:52
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Let me get this straight. An investment company is perhaps, maybe, who knows, purchasing BHD with the express intention to maybe, perhaps, who knows, develop the land it's on?! Christ. I despair. How long has the old Sirrocco works site lain empty? I appreciate it's been purchased now, but any development will take years. There's thousands of square metres still be developed in the Titanic Quarter, but hey, let's blow hundreds of millions on BHD, and then we can make a huge return by.......BUILDING A STADIUM!

They really need to stop all the redevelopment at Windsor Park, turn Ravenhill into an overflow carpark for BHD stadium and get to it quickly. No more wasted money.

Or, alternatively, nothing will change, they'll keep the site for a few years, then sell when the market suits them.

You decide which is more likely.
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Old 3rd Apr 2016, 22:09
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The National Stadium ship has long since sailed...and before it left the harbour (no pun intended), there were plenty of other tempting sites (North Foreshore, Titanic, Scirrocco, Maze...)

3i will do two things...attempt to develop what space is available around the site, and try to grow the airport itself. Neither is anything to be concerned about.

A runway extension remains a cost-benefit nightmare...ain't going to happen.
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Old 4th Apr 2016, 12:49
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Maybe the much talked about hotel might appear
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Old 8th Apr 2016, 17:25
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SN flew BRU today, correct me if I'm wrong first time ?
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Old 9th Apr 2016, 22:55
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I believe that it did
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Old 10th Apr 2016, 13:27
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looks like major problems at BHD today with their radar. Lots of delays and at least one diversion to BFS.
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Old 10th Apr 2016, 17:02
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Radar has been intermittent since Thursday but exacerbated today by rapid changes in wind direction.
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Old 10th Apr 2016, 19:03
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Is it likely to be repaired soon? The shuttle waited for a fairly long time at Magee before going to BFS.
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Old 10th Apr 2016, 19:14
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Reference the radar problems at Harbour, one of the guys from the club phoned today to ask for a practise ILS and was told the radar is properly knackered! Aldergrove are apparently providing radar service to inbounds but due to their coverage he was told a practise ILS was not going to happen. Apparently there are no spares available so not quite sure when its going to be fixed, looks like somebody has dropped a clanger somewhere! I would have thought a piece of kit as important to the day to day operations would have had spares readily available? Seems a bit strange, must try and find out more.
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Old 10th Apr 2016, 19:45
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Another week out of service is the current estimate. Any Selex ATCR 33 spares on ebay?

The HB NDB was out of service in the latter half of the week as well, wonder if someone blew a big fuse...
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Old 11th Apr 2016, 17:34
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So if theres no radar for another week and there are delays in the meantime, who picks up the bill? Looking at the approach charts for Harbour, if theres no HB or radar and they are on runway 04, how do they get the aircraft to fly a procedure?

I smell management incompetence somewhere! In this day and age of risk assessments and paperwork (I know my industry is polluted with it) how has someone justified two major pieces of kit to have such little resilience and be acceptable to run a business like this? Surely they wouldn't release a radar for maintenance knowing the locator beacon was also dodgy and there was a fair chance it would be needed? The only satisfactory explanation I can think of is that the radar has been working perfectly and has suffered an unforeseen and catastrophic failure that simply couldn't be prepared for. Likewise the beacon has also been working perfectly and has coincidentally also suffered an unforeseen and catastrophic failure. Pure bad luck and timing all around.
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