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Hold back everyone, until it happens anyway. FR won't drastically hurt their DUB operations while nobody is hurting them. They may or may not appear here, I'm undecided as to whether it would be a good thing or not but tell you one thing for certain EZY haven't spent the last 17 years at BFS building a fairly substantial operation for FR to come blundering in and drive them out, and to a fair degree I believe BE can hold their own on more marginal routes, a lot easier making a profit trying to fill a DH8 than a 738, I'm sure their 22 year history at BHD won't end overnight without a fight either! Not every battle does FR win!
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From what I have heard it will not be a huge announcement from FR
I've heard that they are looking at STN and/or LGW and it will be BHD
Both will be done by either a STN aircraft flying into BHD similar to what EZY do into BFS in the mornings
and if LGW is done it will be a W pattern from DUB
FR know where their passengers travel from to use them, if people are happy to travel to DUB from NI and help them fill their flight, then FR is not going to come to their doorstep when they don't need to, to then worry about loads
Same situation on the transatlantic flight by EI from BFS. When they realised very quickly they didn't need to open up long haul flights from belfast when passengers where very happy to travel to dublin for them
I've heard that they are looking at STN and/or LGW and it will be BHD
Both will be done by either a STN aircraft flying into BHD similar to what EZY do into BFS in the mornings
and if LGW is done it will be a W pattern from DUB
FR know where their passengers travel from to use them, if people are happy to travel to DUB from NI and help them fill their flight, then FR is not going to come to their doorstep when they don't need to, to then worry about loads
Same situation on the transatlantic flight by EI from BFS. When they realised very quickly they didn't need to open up long haul flights from belfast when passengers where very happy to travel to dublin for them
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So according to the rumour network now, RYR are coming to BFS to duplicate half of easyjet's network. Has anybody told BFS this because that would be a laughable business decision. Alienate your number one customer to a point where they'll massively scale down their operation or move it for the sake of a few 737's that will deliver less in revenue to the airport. I can't see BFS falling for that one...they never have before although perhaps the latest owners are more naive than their predecessors.
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Before I left some two years ago ,I was told that RYR would be operating from BFS within six months. I could take that to the bank....apparently.
Other cast iron rumours included a Chinese carrier which would have operated on a weekly basis and a cargo area with huge tax advantages to the operator (unnamed).
You don't want to hear the military rumours.
Let me know when I may exhale.
Other cast iron rumours included a Chinese carrier which would have operated on a weekly basis and a cargo area with huge tax advantages to the operator (unnamed).
You don't want to hear the military rumours.
Let me know when I may exhale.
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Even BT now speculating!!!
Ryanair may take off from Belfast again - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk
Ryanair may take off from Belfast again - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk
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FR to come BFS!! they have been trying for years - 2001 after 9/11 'FR are coming to BFS'..... They only let the select few in up there.... BA would do well to come back were they belong if BFS will permit them back. Late slots from LHR large aircraft..... they would save ££££s
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Safe to say something is cooking I'd say.
BA, IAG will look to optimize their UK services into Heathrow. BA has successfully taken out BM and Aer Lingus in the last few years, so NO competition left, and very valuable slots, particularly for smaller aircraft operating. If you were BA you would look at every short GB operation into LHR, decide where you needed capacity for business passengers and feed - and remove every other flight that doesn't contribute to that, using BA or Aer Lingus brand where it best suits particular markets.
If Heathrow flying gets capped in that way from throughout the UK, IRL then it is an opportunity for the other London airports, who are comparatively less curtailed, to grow some services from the regions.
Gatwick will develop from Belfast and Dublin because the EU has made that a condition of the IAG T/O of EI. Aer Lingus were set to come off Belfast as soon as that condition was set out, and neither they nor BA will be facilitated to develop on Dublin or Belfast into Gatwick. So that leaves EZY, FR, flybe or Norwegian for that. Time will tell. Also, if Heathrow flying is limited, it may provide further opportunity for Stanstead, LCY and Luton to grow UK, ROI flights?
As to the Ryanair speculation from Belfast, reckon that will always be there. They are Europe's largest airline, Ireland is their Home and they now operate flights certainly from every major region throughout GB in parallel with easyJet, and the only point in the uk that they don't do that from is BFS.
But only they know what way they see their growth happening. as is clear there are a lot of Belfast passengers using Dublin, mainly due to a limited choice from BFS. Ryanair will be getting a number of them, but so will EI and other European airlines from Dublin. the one way FR are guaranteed to pick up all of those passengers and stop other airlines benefiting is to offer low fares direct from Belfast and capture that business exclusively. They might also see some benefit in having a Belfast programme to keep DUB keen, even if that's only in a small way, and it is clear that there are many opportunities for FR to look at across Europe from Belfast - some of which would add to existing routes and some of which would open up new ones.
Then of course they might not be looking at it that way - but I'm sure Belfast is not a place that Never crosses their mind
BA, IAG will look to optimize their UK services into Heathrow. BA has successfully taken out BM and Aer Lingus in the last few years, so NO competition left, and very valuable slots, particularly for smaller aircraft operating. If you were BA you would look at every short GB operation into LHR, decide where you needed capacity for business passengers and feed - and remove every other flight that doesn't contribute to that, using BA or Aer Lingus brand where it best suits particular markets.
If Heathrow flying gets capped in that way from throughout the UK, IRL then it is an opportunity for the other London airports, who are comparatively less curtailed, to grow some services from the regions.
Gatwick will develop from Belfast and Dublin because the EU has made that a condition of the IAG T/O of EI. Aer Lingus were set to come off Belfast as soon as that condition was set out, and neither they nor BA will be facilitated to develop on Dublin or Belfast into Gatwick. So that leaves EZY, FR, flybe or Norwegian for that. Time will tell. Also, if Heathrow flying is limited, it may provide further opportunity for Stanstead, LCY and Luton to grow UK, ROI flights?
As to the Ryanair speculation from Belfast, reckon that will always be there. They are Europe's largest airline, Ireland is their Home and they now operate flights certainly from every major region throughout GB in parallel with easyJet, and the only point in the uk that they don't do that from is BFS.
But only they know what way they see their growth happening. as is clear there are a lot of Belfast passengers using Dublin, mainly due to a limited choice from BFS. Ryanair will be getting a number of them, but so will EI and other European airlines from Dublin. the one way FR are guaranteed to pick up all of those passengers and stop other airlines benefiting is to offer low fares direct from Belfast and capture that business exclusively. They might also see some benefit in having a Belfast programme to keep DUB keen, even if that's only in a small way, and it is clear that there are many opportunities for FR to look at across Europe from Belfast - some of which would add to existing routes and some of which would open up new ones.
Then of course they might not be looking at it that way - but I'm sure Belfast is not a place that Never crosses their mind
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This stuff has all to do with Gatwick slots issuing from the BA take-over of AerL.
Thing is have Ryanair applied for Belfast to Gatwick? Wud have thought best solution for Gatwick competing with BA, EI Heathrow would be more FR from DUB and more EZY from BFS?
But If Ryan are planning on returning to Belfast and Both airports are interested, would have def thought BFS makes a lot more sense for them. Only reason they served City before was because Aer Ligus were in Aldergrove and Ryanair ddnt want to give them a free run. No longer that way.
Also if they want the opportunity to serve all of Europe from the north, then has to be BFS where there are no limits on runway, flying hours, terminal and general ability to Grow, for an airline who wants no limits on how much they fly their planes.
The city has done well to develop the way it has with flybe, Heathrow and more recently European fleg carriers but it is already heaving at its peaks and is situated on a postage stamp, locked in by a major road, Bombardier, retail which means that even if thgey ever extended the rwy to try to bring in higher volume flights like Ryanair, EZY they'd still have big problems to try to overcome like aircraft parking taxiways, road blockages and so on. Meantime Ryanair would have none of these problems at BFS, IF they can get the right deal to use there?
Thing is have Ryanair applied for Belfast to Gatwick? Wud have thought best solution for Gatwick competing with BA, EI Heathrow would be more FR from DUB and more EZY from BFS?
But If Ryan are planning on returning to Belfast and Both airports are interested, would have def thought BFS makes a lot more sense for them. Only reason they served City before was because Aer Ligus were in Aldergrove and Ryanair ddnt want to give them a free run. No longer that way.
Also if they want the opportunity to serve all of Europe from the north, then has to be BFS where there are no limits on runway, flying hours, terminal and general ability to Grow, for an airline who wants no limits on how much they fly their planes.
The city has done well to develop the way it has with flybe, Heathrow and more recently European fleg carriers but it is already heaving at its peaks and is situated on a postage stamp, locked in by a major road, Bombardier, retail which means that even if thgey ever extended the rwy to try to bring in higher volume flights like Ryanair, EZY they'd still have big problems to try to overcome like aircraft parking taxiways, road blockages and so on. Meantime Ryanair would have none of these problems at BFS, IF they can get the right deal to use there?
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Another flybe technical diversion
I wonder what happened this time with the latest diversion? BFS must be getting fed up taking everyone else's diversions and emergencies. It shows the benefit of a long runway, Cat3 and a cross runway.
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So Ryanair comes to Belfast, passenger numbers go through the roof, will the subsequent profits reflect that? I remember having a chat with a Harbour manager years ago at a function when Ryanair were there and he was lamenting the fact that although it looked fantastic on paper the numbers didn't translate into cash.
The trick will be to keep the established airlines happy, in this case Easy, if they spit the dummy out then Aldergrove will not be in a happy place. I would find it strange though if Ryanair go head to head with Easy when they would have a relatively free run down at Harbour but who knows! Aviation is a strange marketplace to try and guess.
The trick will be to keep the established airlines happy, in this case Easy, if they spit the dummy out then Aldergrove will not be in a happy place. I would find it strange though if Ryanair go head to head with Easy when they would have a relatively free run down at Harbour but who knows! Aviation is a strange marketplace to try and guess.