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I wonder what you expect to see on the twitter page of an airport if not aircraft. I mean you cannot photo a lot of the goings on anyway.
They are doing themselves a disservice. Here's an example which they entitled 'busier and busier'. Yes, 16 people at an empty carousel.
https://mobile.twitter.com/BelfastAi...653120/photo/2
Corporate social media is hard. It's not just about spinning good news, it's about building a brand image and attracting people. Commit to it or don't do it. The question that should be asked is 'Would this post make people want to work here?'.
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15 usaf hercs. Yes because they would really love to be plastered over social media so that people can start shouting rendition etc. Social media is hard and I agree with the poster above that Aldergrove are going pretty well because,for example, they didn't post that. Shows they have some common sense. As for your link it was a photo of the United and not 16 people at a carousel. Seems like you are just one of the people with your mind already made up. That is your prerogative but it doesn't make you right
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These new routes are win win for BFS. Theres no duplication, there is a demand for them, they are euro routes and one is to a capital. Whatever about keeping wizz at bay this is fairly typical FR teritory and will be three less reasons for people to fly from DUB. I believe Wroclaw has beautiful old city centre like Krakow but less well known. Gdansk might be interesting, lot of maritime history.
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On the BBC website
Ryanair announces new routes from Belfast to Gdansk, Warsaw and Wroclaw - BBC News
Doesn't state days of frequency of routes
Ryanair announces new routes from Belfast to Gdansk, Warsaw and Wroclaw - BBC News
Doesn't state days of frequency of routes
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Great news!
I wonder if the 4 routes to Poland are a quick tactical move by FR to try and stop Wizzair in their tracks before they start to concentrate on the domestic and sun routes
I wonder if the 4 routes to Poland are a quick tactical move by FR to try and stop Wizzair in their tracks before they start to concentrate on the domestic and sun routes
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There is also local politics in Poland about airport expansion and ownership at play here as well. The starting of new routes to Warsaw, whilst moving Polish domestic routes to Chopin Airport, despite the fact Chopin not wanting them there is part of that.
Basically Modlin is 90% full and the owner of Chopin Airport is trying to take complete control in a bid to what many people see as a chance to stifle the growth of Ryanair in Warsaw which is growing at a huge rate, coupled with Wizz expanding to a smaller degree at Chopin, is not helping LOT at all.
Polish State airports showed little interest in Modlin until in the last 12-18 months they started to have a very sharp rise in passenger numbers at the expense of LOT and other carriers now they want to run both airports in Warsaw, which will be very much to the benefit of those operate at Chopin right now.
Ryanair here are saying, if you don't expand Modlin, we'll just move routes which will hurt you the most to Chopin, whilst the airlines at Chopin are hoping that Modlin and Chopin come under common ownership so the difference between charges at the two airports is reduced and the rate of expansion by Ryanair is reduced to stop Ryanair undercutting them.
Basically Modlin is 90% full and the owner of Chopin Airport is trying to take complete control in a bid to what many people see as a chance to stifle the growth of Ryanair in Warsaw which is growing at a huge rate, coupled with Wizz expanding to a smaller degree at Chopin, is not helping LOT at all.
Polish State airports showed little interest in Modlin until in the last 12-18 months they started to have a very sharp rise in passenger numbers at the expense of LOT and other carriers now they want to run both airports in Warsaw, which will be very much to the benefit of those operate at Chopin right now.
Ryanair here are saying, if you don't expand Modlin, we'll just move routes which will hurt you the most to Chopin, whilst the airlines at Chopin are hoping that Modlin and Chopin come under common ownership so the difference between charges at the two airports is reduced and the rate of expansion by Ryanair is reduced to stop Ryanair undercutting them.
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Chopin Airport have now come out with a statement, translated into English it basically says: "Chopin Airport is a public use airport, which obliges us to handle all carriers on an equal basis, subject to availability so. slots or hours of take-offs and landings. Ryanair's decision did not require any consultation with the airport managing body and does not require signing any contracts. We are not striving for these calls and we do not foresee their financing"
Basically it's hardly a ringing endorsement of Ryanair starting up service there. But it gives you an insight into the current state of play with Ryanair and airports in Warsaw. Modlin is virtually full. The owners of Chopin Airport part own Modlin and want to purchase an overall stake. Ryanair believes their reasons for that are to try and stop the growth of Ryanair in Warsaw which is one of their fastest growing bases, since with the current ownership, the owners of Chopin Airport are fighting Modlin's much lower rates head to head. Ryanair signed a 10 year deal with Modlin a couple of years ago in relation to rates, therefore they cannot hike up the price Ryanair are paying.
The only way that effectively LOT and other carriers can stop Ryanair's growth in Warsaw is by limiting airport capacity and obviously with Ryanair not wanting to switch to Chopin because it's much higher cost base, if Chopin Airport also owns Modlin Airport, they become in a position where they are able to have more control over that than they do at the moment.
Ryanair knows that it cannot increase flights much in Modlin because the infrastructure is close to being maxed out in terms of security and baggage handling and gates at peak times. Without moving these domestic calls it is doubtful that they could start these new routes to Warsaw because the airport couldn't cope unless expanded. Removing 4 flights a day is allowing these new routes to be started.
The next logical step insiders are telling me to aid further expansion at Modlin in 2017 if capacity expansion is not forthcoming and they don't get a good deal out of Chopin Airport is to move some of the business oriented capacity and flights from Modlin to Chopin in addition to the domestic calls. They will then add extra leisure traffic at Modlin and then start transferring domestic passengers to more European Ryanair business orientated destinations currently served from Modlin.
That is something that really would hit LOT and this is merely Ryanair showing their cards to Polish State Airports that if they can't get the capacity they need in Modlin, they can always move selected capacity to Chopin, that will hit LOT the most.
This is not directly related to Wizz
Basically it's hardly a ringing endorsement of Ryanair starting up service there. But it gives you an insight into the current state of play with Ryanair and airports in Warsaw. Modlin is virtually full. The owners of Chopin Airport part own Modlin and want to purchase an overall stake. Ryanair believes their reasons for that are to try and stop the growth of Ryanair in Warsaw which is one of their fastest growing bases, since with the current ownership, the owners of Chopin Airport are fighting Modlin's much lower rates head to head. Ryanair signed a 10 year deal with Modlin a couple of years ago in relation to rates, therefore they cannot hike up the price Ryanair are paying.
The only way that effectively LOT and other carriers can stop Ryanair's growth in Warsaw is by limiting airport capacity and obviously with Ryanair not wanting to switch to Chopin because it's much higher cost base, if Chopin Airport also owns Modlin Airport, they become in a position where they are able to have more control over that than they do at the moment.
Ryanair knows that it cannot increase flights much in Modlin because the infrastructure is close to being maxed out in terms of security and baggage handling and gates at peak times. Without moving these domestic calls it is doubtful that they could start these new routes to Warsaw because the airport couldn't cope unless expanded. Removing 4 flights a day is allowing these new routes to be started.
The next logical step insiders are telling me to aid further expansion at Modlin in 2017 if capacity expansion is not forthcoming and they don't get a good deal out of Chopin Airport is to move some of the business oriented capacity and flights from Modlin to Chopin in addition to the domestic calls. They will then add extra leisure traffic at Modlin and then start transferring domestic passengers to more European Ryanair business orientated destinations currently served from Modlin.
That is something that really would hit LOT and this is merely Ryanair showing their cards to Polish State Airports that if they can't get the capacity they need in Modlin, they can always move selected capacity to Chopin, that will hit LOT the most.
This is not directly related to Wizz
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Interesting just listened to a podcast with the head of marketing at FR, he was talking up the fact BFS will be their fastest growing european base and they envisage it being a very significant one, apparently they fly over 1 million NI based people through DUB each year and they see Belfast as underserved. I take a lot of FR's statements with healthy pinches of salt but this looks positive. It's exciting seeing multiple route launches each time as opposed to one here and there!
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Two birds, one stone.....just like Cork same will likely happen here in time.
Mart901
You know its his job to talk things up, he is hardly going to say anything negative. The same lines are rolled out across Europe!
Two birds, one stone.....just like Cork same will likely happen here in time.
Mart901
You know its his job to talk things up, he is hardly going to say anything negative. The same lines are rolled out across Europe!
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http://https://thetravelnewsblog.wor...direct-flight/
I happened upon this link today. Not entirely sure which poster had this story at an early stage, but it would appear that they were a reliable source. I'll be keeping any eye on his/her contributions in future. You really do have to hand it to the new MD, he really does seem to be making all of the right noises.
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I happened upon this link today. Not entirely sure which poster had this story at an early stage, but it would appear that they were a reliable source. I'll be keeping any eye on his/her contributions in future. You really do have to hand it to the new MD, he really does seem to be making all of the right noises.
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Cheers! It was actually its absence from the flight listings that made me interested in it.. sometimes the best way to hide things is in plain sight.
I don't know why airports spend so much time editing-out things received in the FIDS feed.
I don't know why airports spend so much time editing-out things received in the FIDS feed.