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If it is to be BHD I wonder what has changed since their last adventure down there?
The opening hours remain the same,the runway length remains the same,the aircraft performance remains the same,the reduced load factors remain the same,the boss of Ryanair remains the same ,the opposition from the airport protesters remains the same.If they couldn't make it work then what has changed that WILL make it work for them now?
Answers to me on the back of a brown envelope please.
The opening hours remain the same,the runway length remains the same,the aircraft performance remains the same,the reduced load factors remain the same,the boss of Ryanair remains the same ,the opposition from the airport protesters remains the same.If they couldn't make it work then what has changed that WILL make it work for them now?
Answers to me on the back of a brown envelope please.
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[QUOTE]The opening hours remain the same,the runway length remains the same,the aircraft performance remains the same,the reduced load factors remain the same,the boss of Ryanair remains the same ,the opposition from the airport protesters remains the same.If they couldn't make it work then what has changed that WILL make it work for them now? [QUOTE]
Correct me if I'm wrong but was the reduced load factor not done away with after a period of time, definitely for the domestic routes, not sure about the bucket and spade stuff. Do Aldergrove still allegedly sponsor the concerned residents? All been very quiet from them recently although this potential announcement should wake them from their slumber!
Correct me if I'm wrong but was the reduced load factor not done away with after a period of time, definitely for the domestic routes, not sure about the bucket and spade stuff. Do Aldergrove still allegedly sponsor the concerned residents? All been very quiet from them recently although this potential announcement should wake them from their slumber!
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Any questions about sponsoring residents group should be addressed to the alleged sponsor.
So far as the good Doctor being quiet,I still see the occasional email shot from her group.
NB I "see" I do not subscribe.
So far as the good Doctor being quiet,I still see the occasional email shot from her group.
NB I "see" I do not subscribe.
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Ryanair are a different airline these days.
Gatwick Belfast is a decent route to market their business plus fares on, and I don't think BFS would risk irritating their pals Easy.
Are low cost airlines the best way for airports to make money?
Gatwick Belfast is a decent route to market their business plus fares on, and I don't think BFS would risk irritating their pals Easy.
Are low cost airlines the best way for airports to make money?
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Ryanair for BFS
Word on the street still that FR going to BFS. BHD also worried that Flybe are talking about moving to BFS as the terms being offered are way below that of BHD. Going to be an interesting few days
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@BFS Watcher -
So there isn't a Ryanair announcement happening tomorrow at BHD? Im confused with the rumour!! One minute its BHD and the next its BFS.
Word on the street still that FR going to BFS. BHD also worried that Flybe are talking about moving to BFS as the terms being offered are way below that of BHD. Going to be an interesting few days.
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It is Starting to seem clear to me that the same poster on here has 2 usernames and posting contradictory information. I don't believe 1 poster on here knows much if anything about which Belfast Airport that Ryanair will use...
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The bottom line is simple, not one poster on here knows squat about the intentions of Ryanair, FleBe etc unless they have a direct contact in fairly high positions. I hear lots of unsubstantiated rumours when attending various business functions and social events but they are just that - speculation and rumour.
I can say without doubt the vast majority of ordinary workers don't know what the senior management of their company is planning, even if they did, are they really going to post it on a public forum populated by grumpy old bast*rds like me and lots of teenage spotters pretending to spend thousands per year on business travel??
Summary - Ryanair to Aldergrove - possible but might not happen. Ryanair to Harbour - highly unlikely but might happen. Flybe to Aldergrove - paramount to business suicide.
Does this cover the latest few pages of this thread to date?
I can say without doubt the vast majority of ordinary workers don't know what the senior management of their company is planning, even if they did, are they really going to post it on a public forum populated by grumpy old bast*rds like me and lots of teenage spotters pretending to spend thousands per year on business travel??
Summary - Ryanair to Aldergrove - possible but might not happen. Ryanair to Harbour - highly unlikely but might happen. Flybe to Aldergrove - paramount to business suicide.
Does this cover the latest few pages of this thread to date?
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[on a public forum populated by grumpy old bast*rds like me and lots of teenage spotters pretending to spend thousands per year on business travel??]
Don't know why quotations facility doesn't work on my pc, maybe something to do with windows 10 upgrade that I am avoiding perhaps .. perhaps .. perhaps.
No Panpanpanpan,
We've all been told, we are either grumply old b******s or teenage spotters, where does that leave me? LOL
We seldom agree, but Flybe going BFS is tantamount to commercial suicide, unless of course they did move the non competitive routes, like Cardiff, Aberdeen, Southampton, Leeds, E. Midlands, London City etc. etc. (god the list is long). It simply will not happen.
Lets now leave OwenC alone. There is good new coming for him. When Ryanair arrive and he can then commute over and back with them and their low fares he possibly could save up to £2750 on that travel budget, with their low fares.
Whatever happens re Ryanair they will hit Belfast with a bang and there may even be a mad introductory offer like last time. If they do go Belfast City London Gatwick at x3 daily with 189 seater limited to 169 on average on flights we could see as many as 35k passengers per month if 100% of sellable seats sold, that would be 15k more than Aer Lingus do with their little green bird. So if it is only Gatwick route, it is a bit of a damp squib. Though we might get some surprises thrown in. And the unlikely but possible use of the 737-700 (EI-SEV) on the Belfast City Airport could really change things....
]Don't know why quotations facility doesn't work on my pc, maybe something to do with windows 10 upgrade that I am avoiding perhaps .. perhaps .. perhaps.
No Panpanpanpan,
We've all been told, we are either grumply old b******s or teenage spotters, where does that leave me? LOL
We seldom agree, but Flybe going BFS is tantamount to commercial suicide, unless of course they did move the non competitive routes, like Cardiff, Aberdeen, Southampton, Leeds, E. Midlands, London City etc. etc. (god the list is long). It simply will not happen.
Lets now leave OwenC alone. There is good new coming for him. When Ryanair arrive and he can then commute over and back with them and their low fares he possibly could save up to £2750 on that travel budget, with their low fares.
Whatever happens re Ryanair they will hit Belfast with a bang and there may even be a mad introductory offer like last time. If they do go Belfast City London Gatwick at x3 daily with 189 seater limited to 169 on average on flights we could see as many as 35k passengers per month if 100% of sellable seats sold, that would be 15k more than Aer Lingus do with their little green bird. So if it is only Gatwick route, it is a bit of a damp squib. Though we might get some surprises thrown in. And the unlikely but possible use of the 737-700 (EI-SEV) on the Belfast City Airport could really change things....
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Re the BHD/BFS debate
Heres how I see it, Joseph Public will go where the cheap flights go.
Saving a tenner on the fare will be the straw that breaks the camels back regardless if means that you actually pay more to get to your departure point, we just see the £19.99 flashing up on the screen and we are sold.
You won't be thinking what if it's a howler on the return flight and you can't get into Sydenham, you won't be thinking that's an extra ten miles up to Aldergrove, you got a bargain fare and, well, "you're so money supermarket"
For me its simple, and to be honest I do have a slight allegiance to AA here, I don't really care about distance, facilities or the cost of car parking.
What I do care about is I've been up from 4, spent the day listening to 99% rubbish, negotiated traffic, car hire return, and most importantly I want to get back from where I came, get in my car and go home.
One piece of concrete has never let me down.
Heres how I see it, Joseph Public will go where the cheap flights go.
Saving a tenner on the fare will be the straw that breaks the camels back regardless if means that you actually pay more to get to your departure point, we just see the £19.99 flashing up on the screen and we are sold.
You won't be thinking what if it's a howler on the return flight and you can't get into Sydenham, you won't be thinking that's an extra ten miles up to Aldergrove, you got a bargain fare and, well, "you're so money supermarket"
For me its simple, and to be honest I do have a slight allegiance to AA here, I don't really care about distance, facilities or the cost of car parking.
What I do care about is I've been up from 4, spent the day listening to 99% rubbish, negotiated traffic, car hire return, and most importantly I want to get back from where I came, get in my car and go home.
One piece of concrete has never let me down.
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If I worked for Bfs, I would be making a really interesting offer to Flybe, especially for the routes where there is no competition. I would also be talking to BA. And I would make the offer so attractive that for Bhd to match/better it, it would almost put their lights out. Bhd would have to match or better it to retain the traffic, what has Bfs to lose, they don't have that traffic anyway. Bfs could damage Bhd badly without damaging themselves.
All very stupid, but very stupid is where we have got ourselves with a very silly and short sighted aviation policy.
TB
All very stupid, but very stupid is where we have got ourselves with a very silly and short sighted aviation policy.
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Agreed TB. I do believe that BFS are going to get more aggressive in their plight for more traffic (stealing existing from the competition and also new business). And you are right, they have nothing to lose especially with the blatantly obvious outside support that BHD seem to get, maybe aggressiveness is the only way to win.
OwenC. I read your report of your flight with Aer Lingus. When I was at university we used to get hammered for grammatical and spelling errors. How after all could we write authoratively on the subject (see today's post at 10.30 for an example of incoherent drivel) we were studying? I think you should be concentrating on that rather than worrying about the opinions of people on here.
Regarding FR. I'm sure they're itching to expand in NI. After screwing LDY (build a runway extension and we'll expand.....honest), I don't see how they'd instead go to BHD or BFS. The former has a shorter runway than LDY; the latter has EZY. So FR can either operate with restrictions, or go to an airport where they'll be competing directly with EZY. Unlike at DUB where FR destroyed EZY's attempts at getting into the Irish market, I cannot see EZY succumbing at BFS, nor transferring to BHD in a sulk.
I could be utterly wrong, but any major announcement from FR is, in my opinion, very unlikely.
Regarding FR. I'm sure they're itching to expand in NI. After screwing LDY (build a runway extension and we'll expand.....honest), I don't see how they'd instead go to BHD or BFS. The former has a shorter runway than LDY; the latter has EZY. So FR can either operate with restrictions, or go to an airport where they'll be competing directly with EZY. Unlike at DUB where FR destroyed EZY's attempts at getting into the Irish market, I cannot see EZY succumbing at BFS, nor transferring to BHD in a sulk.
I could be utterly wrong, but any major announcement from FR is, in my opinion, very unlikely.
I have a BSc and MSc. You still need to be able to deploy the English language. Were all your GCSEs and A-Levels science-based too? You're not covering yourself in glory on here recently, which is a shame as some of your early posts were well worth a read.