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HH6702, nothing is official until an announcement is official. So nobody really knows whether there will be an announcement until such time as its all signed off. So it's best just waiting to see.
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In response to OntimeexceptACARS, I understand that LS are very happy with progress at GLA, but I think people are beginning to miss my point. My initial point is that if LS can offer flights to TFS (for example) from every base - this including BFS, who of course is also busy with the 737-300WL's, then why not EDI? It is merely a logical suggestion, thus as opposed to the opening of a new base, which some people have suggested, and of course as a LCC, opening a brand new base costs a lot more that expanding at a current one. And with RYR effectively beginning to invade at GLA, I can see all the more reason for LS to fight back. And on another note, yes LS are happy with ops from GLA, but in terms of location, it is similar to MAN and LBA - which both an equal distance aprt, and offer such flights.
In response to janeyTA, travel agents, for example Dawson & Sanderson do add there own commission on top. It was like last time we tried to book a holiday with them through Jet2holidays, and they added almost £400 on top. I know this because I had done my research, and the Jet2holidays website stated the original price, without the +£400 they had quoted. After confronting them, and showing them the live price on my phone, they quickly realised, and after this said on this special circumstance, they would match the price that Jet2holidays had quoted online - of course, after phoning LS up. It later turned out that they have their own variant of the website, a one adapted for travel agents, with these extortionate additions on top.
And finally in response to brian_dromey, customers do travel to save money, and I understand that such brand loyalty does not exist - however, as stated above, Jet2holidays offer a much more attractive package, one with ATOL and ABTA protection, with transfers and check-in fees included. For Example, EZY might offer a holiday that is maybe £250 cheaper, but they do not have the option of the part payment scheme that Jet2holidays does. Added to thus, the 22kg baggage allowance, transfers etc. By the time you add your check-in fees and luggage, you'll find that it is often on par, if not more expensive to the customer, and of course with only one of the protections. Jet2holidays delivers the lowest costs to the customers, and in all saves a whole lot of money. Of course, its better to have that extra reassurance when travelling abroad.
Anyway, lets hope that the forthcoming announcement is going to be something big!
In response to janeyTA, travel agents, for example Dawson & Sanderson do add there own commission on top. It was like last time we tried to book a holiday with them through Jet2holidays, and they added almost £400 on top. I know this because I had done my research, and the Jet2holidays website stated the original price, without the +£400 they had quoted. After confronting them, and showing them the live price on my phone, they quickly realised, and after this said on this special circumstance, they would match the price that Jet2holidays had quoted online - of course, after phoning LS up. It later turned out that they have their own variant of the website, a one adapted for travel agents, with these extortionate additions on top.
And finally in response to brian_dromey, customers do travel to save money, and I understand that such brand loyalty does not exist - however, as stated above, Jet2holidays offer a much more attractive package, one with ATOL and ABTA protection, with transfers and check-in fees included. For Example, EZY might offer a holiday that is maybe £250 cheaper, but they do not have the option of the part payment scheme that Jet2holidays does. Added to thus, the 22kg baggage allowance, transfers etc. By the time you add your check-in fees and luggage, you'll find that it is often on par, if not more expensive to the customer, and of course with only one of the protections. Jet2holidays delivers the lowest costs to the customers, and in all saves a whole lot of money. Of course, its better to have that extra reassurance when travelling abroad.
Anyway, lets hope that the forthcoming announcement is going to be something big!
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this including BFS, who of course is also busy with the QC's
Ericlday, nothing is official until it's announced publicly.. There are people working on things in the company which may never see the light of day, so until/unless there is a public announcement there's no point in speculation..
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In response to janeyTA, travel agents, for example Dawson & Sanderson do add there own commission on top. It was like last time we tried to book a holiday with them through Jet2holidays, and they added almost £400 on top. I know this because I had done my research, and the Jet2holidays website stated the original price, without the +£400 they had quoted. After confronting them, and showing them the live price on my phone, they quickly realised, and after this said on this special circumstance, they would match the price that Jet2holidays had quoted online - of course, after phoning LS up. It later turned out that they have their own variant of the website, a one adapted for travel agents, with these extortionate additions on top.
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If you wanted the online price you could have done the right thing, and booked online.
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Thus my point, you can book online with Jet2holidays, and pay using the part payment scheme, something that is simply not available via EZY, unless of course you venture to the local travel agents, where they will add their commision on.
Not true. You can pay a deposit on EZY holidays online. The agent's don't add the commission on. They sell at the price the tour operator loads onto their booking system, but the price the tour operator loads onto the agent's booking system is higher than the price they sell for online (apart from Thomas Cook who charge the same price no matter whether you book online, in store, or over the phone).
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You can pay a deposit on EZY holidays online
However, go with Jet2holidays on the same basis, but from GLA instead, your price is £1844.00 - that's with all bags and transfers, plus your ABTA and ATOL protection, and an in-resort rep! And of course, your deposit of only £240, means that you've secured your holiday for £707 less, and have overall paid just over £151 less
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It all depends on your market segment, i haven't seen Jet2 passenger numbers for 2014 but guess around 6m, easy jet are of course in a different league and to be honest market place.
The vast majority of people of people using low cost airlines are doing DIY holidays and with 90%+ of Booking.coms hotels you pay nothing until you turn up or have the option of cancelling 48 hours before, my personal observation of people using Jet2holidays.com is that of chasing a bargain and in most case could have put the same deal together other than transfers for less, yes Jet2 are ATOL protected, but you are a 100% safer in terms of the commercial risk with easyJet or Ryanair than Jet2 anyway.
The one advantage of booking a Jet2 holiday ( or any IT holiday) is that they have cradle to grave responsibility to sort it out when things go wrong, but in the South of England at least its a dying market for European traffic and Jet2 don't have a long haul product, even the last bastion of all inclusive the ski market is giving way to DIY, finally don't forget ATOL comes with a cost to the airline and the punter.
Book your flight well ahead and book your accommodation with any of the major online providers and you'll still pay less up front, plus you choose the level of accommodation you want, there is after all a reason why you can do MAN-TFS-MAN all inclusive with Jet2 for under £250 a head, a lot are crap hotels, but its the same with any IT airline
The vast majority of people of people using low cost airlines are doing DIY holidays and with 90%+ of Booking.coms hotels you pay nothing until you turn up or have the option of cancelling 48 hours before, my personal observation of people using Jet2holidays.com is that of chasing a bargain and in most case could have put the same deal together other than transfers for less, yes Jet2 are ATOL protected, but you are a 100% safer in terms of the commercial risk with easyJet or Ryanair than Jet2 anyway.
The one advantage of booking a Jet2 holiday ( or any IT holiday) is that they have cradle to grave responsibility to sort it out when things go wrong, but in the South of England at least its a dying market for European traffic and Jet2 don't have a long haul product, even the last bastion of all inclusive the ski market is giving way to DIY, finally don't forget ATOL comes with a cost to the airline and the punter.
Book your flight well ahead and book your accommodation with any of the major online providers and you'll still pay less up front, plus you choose the level of accommodation you want, there is after all a reason why you can do MAN-TFS-MAN all inclusive with Jet2 for under £250 a head, a lot are crap hotels, but its the same with any IT airline
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after all a reason why you can do MAN-TFS-MAN all inclusive with Jet2 for under £250 a head, a lot are crap hotels
I do understand where you are coming from, but scroll down a little, and you'll find some absolute gems - some great hotels, at reasonable prices. Jet2 have a wide range of accommodation - ranging from 2*, all the way up to your 5* luxury resorts. If you want 4* or 5*, Jet2 have got it. If you are on a budget, and only want a 2*/3* hotel, then Jet2holidays cater for you as well. After all, if you want to go high cost, and have a holiday of luxury, then ultimately, don't go Low Cost with a LCC.
but you are a 100% safer in terms of the commercial risk with easyJet or Ryanair than Jet2 anyway.
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with an extortionate £947.92 DEPOSIT!
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Yes Ryanair have not historically put customer service at the top of their priority list.
Jet2 have grown off the back of using cheap to buy aircraft and have done very well with it they provide good value holidays but they offer no better value than Thomsons or TC
The only plus in buying old aircraft is the price, absolutely everything else is negative, I can't think of another airline of any size in the loco market or elsewhere that has never bought a new aircraft?
The classics are getting very long in the tooth now and block the flight levels ambling along at .73 I do hope they switch to Airbus as rumoured else where.
Jet2 have grown off the back of using cheap to buy aircraft and have done very well with it they provide good value holidays but they offer no better value than Thomsons or TC
The only plus in buying old aircraft is the price, absolutely everything else is negative, I can't think of another airline of any size in the loco market or elsewhere that has never bought a new aircraft?
The classics are getting very long in the tooth now and block the flight levels ambling along at .73 I do hope they switch to Airbus as rumoured else where.
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At least Jet2 are a genuine airline, an airline that can deliver your low costs, without lacking in customer care
I must disagree - the post travel department at Jet2 is second to...pretty much everyone bar Thomson
RYR are far better at customer service than LS have ever been and this is with them only really starting to try in the last few months.
They have clearly looked at every other airline to see what they do and then done it far better
LS have a lot to learn
I must disagree - the post travel department at Jet2 is second to...pretty much everyone bar Thomson
RYR are far better at customer service than LS have ever been and this is with them only really starting to try in the last few months.
They have clearly looked at every other airline to see what they do and then done it far better
LS have a lot to learn
"even the last bastion of all inclusive the ski market is giving way to DIY"
The highly respected Crystal Ski Annual Report suggests otherwise. Tour Operator organised holidays have declined less than independently organised ones since 2007. Source: Crystal | Ski Industry Report 2014
"LS have a lot to learn "
Many would disagree - just one example was the lengths they went to during the Volancic Ash episode to get everybody home.
Given that most of their growth has taken place during a deep recession I would suggest that their management has a lot to teach some of their long established competitors (just how many of them have been recruiting as many as Jet2?) I suspect many of their staff feel a lot happier than others that operate out of the same airports.
Finally, the market up north is very different to down south, an oft used phrase is up here is "we know what we like and we like what we know". Jet2 have served that market very successfully. It is no surprise that close to half the flights from LBA in the summer are to Iberia and its islands, the Tuscany visiting Intelligentsia may look down their noses at that but that's the way it is.
The highly respected Crystal Ski Annual Report suggests otherwise. Tour Operator organised holidays have declined less than independently organised ones since 2007. Source: Crystal | Ski Industry Report 2014
"LS have a lot to learn "
Many would disagree - just one example was the lengths they went to during the Volancic Ash episode to get everybody home.
Given that most of their growth has taken place during a deep recession I would suggest that their management has a lot to teach some of their long established competitors (just how many of them have been recruiting as many as Jet2?) I suspect many of their staff feel a lot happier than others that operate out of the same airports.
Finally, the market up north is very different to down south, an oft used phrase is up here is "we know what we like and we like what we know". Jet2 have served that market very successfully. It is no surprise that close to half the flights from LBA in the summer are to Iberia and its islands, the Tuscany visiting Intelligentsia may look down their noses at that but that's the way it is.
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but having been on one a few years ago, I wouldn't book another.
a lot are crap hotels
but they offer no better value than Thomsons or TC
The only plus in buying old aircraft is the price, absolutely everything else is negative
I do hope they switch to Airbus as rumoured else where.
. Do you realise how much that would cost! That would mean that Jet2 would have to find new engineers, an entire new spare parts library, and retrain the entire Jet2 company! You might as well just throw your business down the drain.
just one example was the lengths they went to during the Volancic Ash episode to get everybody home.
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I've just checked in for a friend and his wife who are going from EMA to Tenerife with Jet2. They chose their seats for them 29A and 28E. On the plan 28F was still free, why didn't they put him in that seat so they could sit together?
The answer probably is that he would have to pay to change his seat from 29A to 28F so he could sit with his wife. He is a very tight fisted chap and left his seats as they chose for him. Hard luck Jet2 you didn't get the extra £9. It would have gone towards getting some newer planes.
The answer probably is that he would have to pay to change his seat from 29A to 28F so he could sit with his wife. He is a very tight fisted chap and left his seats as they chose for him. Hard luck Jet2 you didn't get the extra £9. It would have gone towards getting some newer planes.
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In bad weather like in Madeira, in September/October time, a Jet2 flight had to divert to TFS. What they could have done, is said, "You are here until we can get our flight back out - you will have to sort out your own accommodation". But, Jet2 didn't do that! They put every person on that flight (including flight only) up in a local hotel for the night, close to the airport, with no charge to pay. What would Ryanair have said? It's not our fault - exceptional circumstances! But of course, Jet2 didn't, so in terms of customer relations, let's just say that it is not Jet2 who have some learning to do!
I think you will find this is was an obligation as opposed to choice. the flight diverted to another country and Jet2 are obliged under EU regulation to get them to the relevant booked destination...
to argue the ash cloud as a measure for customer care is just bizarre as it was too long ago.
current timescales of response from Jet2 for any complaint is way outside of ABTA's code of conduct due to the sheer quantity of complaints going in to them as a company....they are not good at post travel care whatsoever
I do agree with the nonsense regarding aircraft age - they are airworthy and licensed so everyone should get over it.
I think you will find this is was an obligation as opposed to choice. the flight diverted to another country and Jet2 are obliged under EU regulation to get them to the relevant booked destination...
to argue the ash cloud as a measure for customer care is just bizarre as it was too long ago.
current timescales of response from Jet2 for any complaint is way outside of ABTA's code of conduct due to the sheer quantity of complaints going in to them as a company....they are not good at post travel care whatsoever
I do agree with the nonsense regarding aircraft age - they are airworthy and licensed so everyone should get over it.