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Old 29th Sep 2010, 21:51
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Whats all this stuff about PSO, LDY, etc to do with Ryanair? If you want comment on those issues, a DUB-Belfast route was tried a few times and failed. Even less chance now with the new motorway. A new road is out to tender from the border to Londonderry to link with the much improved link from Dublin to Monaghan. When completed, admittedly a few years away, it will blow a Dub-Ldy air route completely out of the water.
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Old 30th Sep 2010, 06:06
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Rumour: FR will open a route from Weeze to a city in the Baltic states. But KUN and RIX are routes from NRN. Will they go to Tallinn or somewhere else?
According to my knowledge, it shell be Tallinn. Most probably commencing in December and/or January, not one but as much as nine destinations are planned: London, Dusseldorf-Weeze, Milan-Bergamo, Мadrid, Girona, Brussels-Charleroi, Oslo, Stockholm-Skavsta and Kaunas (very short route indeed).

The confirmation should come today (not sure if all these routes will be announced at once).
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Old 30th Sep 2010, 07:54
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as much as nine destinations are planned: London, Dusseldorf-Weeze, Milan-Bergamo, Мadrid, Girona, Brussels-Charleroi, Oslo, Stockholm-Skavsta and Kaunas
That would appear to set up Ryanair for a considerable degree of head-to-head competition against Estonian Air, who coincidentally fly to London, Milan Malpensa, Barcelona, Brussels, Oslo, Stockholm and Vilnius.

Estonian fly additionally from Vilnius to Amsterdam, Milan (from December) and Stockholm, while Ryanair fly to Milan from Kaunas.

One may also wish to consider that Estonia as a country has a population of less than 1.4 million. Lithuania, where Ryanair became the dominant carrier following the demise of FlyLAL in 2009, has a population of around 3.3 million

Assuming pee is correct, the level of route overlap does not look good for the newly nationalised Estonian.

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Old 30th Sep 2010, 08:08
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as much as nine destinations are planned
As rumours keep coming; these are routes discussed in June. How many of them will start from the very beginning is still unclear.
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Old 30th Sep 2010, 08:44
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nine destinations are planned: London

Will it be to STN or do you think RYR will continue its expansion at Gatwick?
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Old 30th Sep 2010, 09:35
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New destination, country and route for Ryanair: Weeze - Tallinn to start from 13th december 3 times a week...

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Old 30th Sep 2010, 09:37
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Tallinn

7 routes officially announced:

Dublin
Dusseldorf Weeze
Edinburgh
London (Luton)
Milan Bergamo
Oslo (Rygge)
Stockholm (Skavsta)
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Old 30th Sep 2010, 09:40
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Okay. The updated destination list (to be announced within one hour from now):

From 13th December:
  • Düsseldorf (NRN)
  • Oslo Rygge
  • Stockholm (NYO)
From 14th December
  • Dublin
From 16th December
  • Milan (BGY)
From January 10th (2011)
  • Edinburgh
  • London (Luton)

Hope it will be the same as official list.
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Old 30th Sep 2010, 11:26
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Tallinn

It became official a few minutes ahead of my post.
One may also wish to consider that Estonia as a country has a population of less than 1.4 million.
Right. But again. Don't underestimate the Russian population living to the East of Estonia. The same way Russians fly from Tampere (the distance from St. Petersburg to Tampere is as much as 470 km), they'll be flying from Tallinn too (360km). Only Lappeenranta is located better (195 km), but here FR is slower to develop.

The distance is a very relative concept, I would say.
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One may also wish to consider that Estonia as a country has a population of less than 1.4 million. Lithuania, where Ryanair became the dominant carrier following the demise of FlyLAL in 2009, has a population of around 3.3 million
...though VNO in total still has quite a bit more passengers than KUN. We know FR can generate demand out of nothing, however I believe there are way less EE immigrants e.g. in the UK than people from LT and LV, as EE has a stronger economy, and they have rich Finland just a short ferry journey across. Maybe FR count on the Finnish to use their TLL services. NYO will surely work, strong ties to Sweden (esp banks). BTW, again 'my' airport HHN has been ignored for a new interesting route in favour of NRN. Note LON is also in competition with EZY who go from STN. BTW, TLL-KUN isn't that close really, 620km by road. People do fly VNO-TLL (some even via RIX), as other transport is a bit tedious (no trains). Still, wise FR doesn't do KUN yet, not clear this would work. One thing they could try is SXF which EZY used to serve from TLL, but gave up a few years back. BT won't be amused as this attacks their idea of a mighty Baltic base at RIX under their control.
 
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It became official a few minutes ahead of my post.
You are very rarely wrong on route news.
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Old 30th Sep 2010, 11:34
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Don't underestimate the Russian population living to the East of Estonia.
So they all get visas so easily ? Russian-Estonian relations used to be quite troubled. Estonia is now Schengen treaty area, so e.g. the Germans and French will have a close eye on their policies w.r.t. visas for Russians.
 
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So they all get visas so easily?
Well, pretty easily. The Finnish embassy for example has just outsourced the entire process, so it's possible to get (Finnish/EU) visas without any queues that used to be there before.

Our Tarja Halonen is quoted as saying "Finland will back Russia's bid to scrap the visa regime with the European Union,"

"We are doing all we can and will continue to do so for the introduction of a visa-free regime," Halonen said at a news conference after talks with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev.
Btw., look at this picture (cute, isn't it?)

Medvedev said "the time was ripe" for a visa-free regime between Russia and the EU. "It is the spirit of the time," he said.
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Old 30th Sep 2010, 14:24
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Originally Posted by clareview
Whats all this stuff about PSO, LDY, etc to do with Ryanair? If you want comment on those issues, a DUB-Belfast route was tried a few times and failed. Even less chance now with the new motorway. A new road is out to tender from the border to Londonderry to link with the much improved link from Dublin to Monaghan. When completed, admittedly a few years away, it will blow a Dub-Ldy air route completely out of the water.
Sure even now, Aer Arann can't fill an ATR 42 from Dublin to Derry, so I could see that route getting the chop long before the new Dublin-Derry motorway is finished.
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Old 30th Sep 2010, 16:23
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French law...

This is old stuff, RyR have been pushing the EU to rationalise the law covering employees, and/or to sort out the consequences of free movement of labour. Of course the EU is ducking and diving, it is VERY sensitive political issue.

As usual MO'L is pushing, and he is threatening to leave MRS, and Bauvais, and then kick Sarkozy in the a*se and so on. Technically, staff can be contracted in any Member State and work in another, under the terms of their contracts.

The bottom line? save money. The consequences? race to the bottom, no union rights, etc., etc.

Bye, Barry
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Old 30th Sep 2010, 21:43
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Interesting few posts regards MRS, but my question is why is every UK base on a UK contract and with Ryanair UK Ltd?
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Old 30th Sep 2010, 23:36
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Ryanair will close there Kerry base on Oct 31. They didn't announce this when they announced cuts to DUB flights.
Routes will be operated by HHM and STN a/c:

SUN - MON - WED - FRI
Dep - Frankfurt Hahn - 08:00 - Arr Kerry - 09:00
Dep - Kerry - 09:25 - Arr Dublin - 10:15
(will operate Dublin - Frankfurt Hahn - Dublin)
Dep - Dublin - 16:45 - Arr Kerry - 17:35
Dep - Kerry - 18:00 - Arr Frankfurt Hahn - 20:50

TUE - THUR - SAT
Dep - London Stansted - 07:30 - Arr Kerry - 09:00
Dep - Kerry - 09:25 - Arr Dublin - 10:15
(will operate extra Dublin - London Stansted - Dublin)
Dep - Dublin - 16:45 - Arr Kerry - 17:35
Dep - Kerry - 18:00 - Arr London Stansted - 19:25

STN will operate on SUN also but will return to STN at 09:30.
LTN will operate daily with LTN based a/c.
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Old 1st Oct 2010, 07:54
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Ryanair will close there Kerry base on Oct 31. They didn't announce this when they announced cuts to DUB flights.
They did:
Ryanair will, from 31st October, switch its Kerry based aircraft to another EU base where Govts are reducing airport fees and welcoming tourists instead of taxing them. Ryanair will, from 31st October, continue to operate four routes from Kerry to Dublin, Frankfurt Hahn, London Luton and London Stansted.”

News : Ryanair to Cut Kerry-Dublin Flights From 3 to 1 Daily
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Old 1st Oct 2010, 08:08
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"Interesting few posts regards MRS, but my question is why is every UK base on a UK contract and with Ryanair UK Ltd?"

Presumably dates back to the fact that when Ryanair started in the UK they needed a UK AOC to operate domestic flights (prior to full deregualtion), so a company was set up to achieve that. Once in place, the cost of changing becomes prohibitive.

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Old 1st Oct 2010, 09:04
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EDI-TLL doesn't seem to be on sale? Is it a certain time they go on sale?

Anyone know the timetable for flights?
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