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Old 1st Oct 2010, 15:58
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Does anyone know when Ryanair will start selling flights for next summer?
My cousin wants to fly to Alicante next May. At the moment Easyjet and Jet2 have their summer flights for sale from Glasgow but Ryanair have yet to release their Prestwick summer flights.
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Old 1st Oct 2010, 17:09
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Originally Posted by Jamezon
EDI-TLL doesn't seem to be on sale? Is it a certain time they go on sale?
Flights don't start till January 10th. I just tried to book a flight there and its working grand.

Originally Posted by Jamezon
Anyone know the timetable for flights?
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Old 1st Oct 2010, 17:48
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I'm trying to book flights to lpa in mar/apr but to no avail. Do fr work on a 6 month booking period only or is it when they can be a+¥ed to. Whats the difference between ezy/fr etc... And the likes of monarch. Bmibaby flybe( flight only ). My point is you can book most flights for next year but ryanair you cant
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Old 1st Oct 2010, 19:31
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The same way Russians fly from Tampere (the distance from St. Petersburg to Tampere is as much as 470 km), they'll be flying from Tallinn too (360km)
I tend to agree. Nevertheless, I wouldn't say the same about most of Western Europeans.
Myself, I could consider flying via Tallinn to, say, Helsinki, but the road travel from TLL to St. Petersburg would be frankly too far to be considered - except if looking for some kind of extreme adventure . If - and I'm not so sure about it - Ryanair plan to encourage us to travel to Russia via anything in the EU, the only acceptable place seems to be Lappeenranta, situated less than 200 km from Sankt Petersburg. Any offer of that kind should however be carefully tailored for such a purpose. FR could evaluate e.g. providing the regular coach services from LPP to former Leningrad in co-operation with a local partner (coach enterprise/ travel office). I believe that giving pax a choice of further travel to Russia by coach in connection with the booking process would be a viable solution, worth trying. Otherwise most of the passengers will come from Russia only.
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Old 1st Oct 2010, 20:00
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To consider flying from these remote airports you have to think not as a plane passenger but as train/bus passenger. Instead of 30 hour train journey your are getting 8 hour train journey and 2 hour flight - for a total trip duration of say 15 hours including transfers. The duration of the trip is reduced by half and the total price is also probably significantly lower - that looks like a very good deal.

And if you think that is still a tiresome journey think about that before Ryanair we had multiple daily direct schedulled bus departures from Kaunas to London full of travelers.
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Old 1st Oct 2010, 21:42
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I believe that giving pax a choice of further travel to Russia by coach in connection with the booking process would be a viable solution, worth trying.
Problem with that is the Russian visa restriction tend to make inward travel problematic.
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Old 1st Oct 2010, 22:23
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Problem with that is the Russian visa restriction tend to make inward travel problematic
Ryanair do not need to and almost certainly would not want to act as the principal on any coach journey. The trick would be that Ryanair has a link on its website, pointing to a coach company that runs coaches between Tallinn airport and St Petersburg.

The coach company has a clear message on its website saying that if Estonian / Russian immigration don't like you, then you either don't get a refund or they'll put you on the next coach with a spare seat back to where you came from. Because they are a coach company rather than an airline, all the airline-specific legislation from the EU does not apply - i.e. no refunds, and the coach company does not get fined for bringing you across a border without a visa.

Ryanair would make money, a) by filling more seats on its flights, and b) the coach company paying a commission based on each ticket sold via the Ryanair weblink

One should of course consider, that processing a coach load of people at the EU-Russian border will take a substantial amount of time - there's always one person whose papers are complicated for which everyone else has to wait.

I have no idea whether this would actually generate worthwhile substantial income for either of the 2 companies
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Old 2nd Oct 2010, 13:51
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"Interesting few posts regards MRS, but my question is why is every UK base on a UK contract and with Ryanair UK Ltd?"

Presumably dates back to the fact that when Ryanair started in the UK they needed a UK AOC to operate domestic flights (prior to full deregualtion), so a company was set up to achieve that. Once in place, the cost of changing becomes prohibitive."

'cos UK is a "cheap(er)" place to recruit/employ?

The issue is really about EU law and employment. MO'L is up to his usual tricks, he's working towards a judge forwarding the case to the ECJ, no French judge will do it, they know they'll lose....
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Old 2nd Oct 2010, 14:52
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The issue is really about EU law and employment. MO'L is up to his usual tricks, he's working towards a judge forwarding the case to the ECJ, no French judge will do it, they know they'll lose....
I believe there are more people employed across EU with French companies on French contracts than the small numbers employed by Ryanair.

This has nothing to do with Employment law as if it did then France would have acted against companies many years before who have people employed in France under UK contracts.

This is about looking after Air France purely and simply.
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Old 3rd Oct 2010, 05:20
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Public would trust O'Leary to lead Ireland out of recession?

Questioned during the telephone poll by Independent/Quantum Research the respondents were asked which non-politician they would trust most "to do the right thing in some form of national government". The Ryanair boss Michael O'Leary emerged a clear winner with 30 per cent of voters. "O'Leary would be perfect, can you imagine him allowing the waste that goes on in our public services?" was the view of one male respondent.

Based on the independent.ie news.
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Old 4th Oct 2010, 11:54
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Press conference in Brussels tomorrow afternoon 5. Oktober, with Michael O'Leary himself. Someone any idea what this will be about?
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Old 4th Oct 2010, 14:02
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O'Leary would cheer them up by making them believe they were on a €10.99 annual tax rate. Seriously in my view the chap has 9 of the 10 core compentencies of good leadership but why on earth would he want to. He's done his bit and they wasted it.
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Old 4th Oct 2010, 16:47
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Ryanair’s booked passenger and load factor statistics for September 2010 are as follows:



Sept 09
Sept 10
Increase
12 mth to Sept 10*
Passengers (m) 1
6.12M
6.84M
+12%
71.6M
Load Factor 2
85%
86%
+1%
82%


September passenger numbers
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Old 4th Oct 2010, 17:00
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Well the 306 cancelled flights on the 29th September is bound to have a positive impact on load factors either September or October assuming of course the inconvenienced passengers rebooked on later date flights.
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Old 4th Oct 2010, 18:56
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As the pax have paid I suspect they are counted in Septembers pax total even if the sectors were cancelled. When they rebook they could be counted again. Ryanair traffic figure are nothing to do with people flying but just that they had a seat paid for. The airline "carred" loads of pax when all flights were grounded.
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Old 4th Oct 2010, 22:16
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Does "carred" mean travelled by car? Because that's what lots of folks had to do when they were grounded!
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Old 4th Oct 2010, 22:29
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As the pax have paid I suspect they are counted in Septembers pax total even if the sectors were cancelled. When they rebook they could be counted again. Ryanair traffic figure are nothing to do with people flying but just that they had a seat paid for. The airline "carred" loads of pax when all flights were grounded.
The usual insight into Ryanair..........not.

As planes didn't travel they are not counted as passengers, neither were they counted in April BUT you know that anyway but need an anti FR post.

Why does their success disturb you so much ?
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Old 5th Oct 2010, 00:13
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I very much suspect that Ryanair's definition of passengers fits in with general accounting principles. I'm sure there are others out there who know far more on accounting on me - if I've got it wrong, please say so !

As most know, Ryanair generally do not give refunds unless they absolutely have to. Thus, if you pay for a flight but do not show up, Ryanair gets to keep your money. In accounting terms, this means the funds paid by the customer can be "recognised" as revenue.

If on the other hand, Ryanair cancels a flight, the airline is obliged to refund the money paid back to the customer. These funds cannot be recognised as revenue.

The volcano in the spring was extraordinary, and it is likely that many airlines will show their monthly stats to include both recognised revenue and also separately "customers who booked but had to be refunded because of the airspace closure".

Investors and auditors may well accept the volcano as being an extraordinary event, and will take the separate "what if there had been no eruption" figures when examining the company's overall health. Air traffic control strikes are infrequent but not unusual and would not be deemed extraordinary. Thus a company should not normally expect to be taken seriously if it manipulates the stats for ATC strikes.
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Old 5th Oct 2010, 03:57
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Let the speculation begin...

RYR interested in up to 300x A320 NEO aircraft.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/97bf5f8c-cf25-11df-9be2-00144feab49a.html

And why wouldn't they look at it?
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Old 5th Oct 2010, 07:50
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Old news. Airbus doesn't need him, it has plenty of backlog orders. They told him so much about 6 months ago when he went down to Toulouse to try and extract the deal of the century from there. I think they were quoted as saying that they would be more than happy to sell him as many airframes as he wants at their list prices. They are not stupid people and they won't have appreciated the fact that they had concluded a deal to sell him A320's only for him to fax it to Boeing and be undercut at the last minute. Boeing doesn't need him either. Nor do either manufacturer want him flooding the 2nd hand market with his wares reducing the fleet values and the knock on effects this has to the leasing market.
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