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Lord Spandex, interesting as only aware of one - and that was hardly a drama all things considering. Care to use your rumour network to identify the other examples and share??
Only of course if it is worth the read and not simply crew following SOP
Only of course if it is worth the read and not simply crew following SOP
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Well a google will tell you there was one departing Inverness in July and two diverting into Manchester, one in July and one only a few days ago. Ok not within a week but within three months of each other.
Those are the ones in the public domain already so surely you should have known about all of them. I'm sure neither of them was a drama and had I thought that was the case then I may have sensationalised my post a bit.
It would be remiss of me to actively advertise, in detail, any other failures, at least before they become public which they inevitably will.
Bottom line is just because I said there were 4 it doesn't make it true or not. If it's 3 or 5 I don't particularly care.
Those are the ones in the public domain already so surely you should have known about all of them. I'm sure neither of them was a drama and had I thought that was the case then I may have sensationalised my post a bit.
It would be remiss of me to actively advertise, in detail, any other failures, at least before they become public which they inevitably will.
Bottom line is just because I said there were 4 it doesn't make it true or not. If it's 3 or 5 I don't particularly care.
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Ok not within a week but within three months of each other
Bottom line is just because I said there were 4 it doesn't make it true or not. If it's 3 or 5 I don't particularly care.
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Yet you conveniently ignore that I said these were the ones in the public domain already.
In fact I'll even correct myself and point out that one of the Manchester diversions was from 2010.
You can wait for AVHerald or the AAIB reports, however long that takes, for any more detail on the recent ones.
Just because you haven't heard about them yet doesn't mean that they haven't occurred.
In fact I'll even correct myself and point out that one of the Manchester diversions was from 2010.
You can wait for AVHerald or the AAIB reports, however long that takes, for any more detail on the recent ones.
Just because you haven't heard about them yet doesn't mean that they haven't occurred.
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Flights are now on sale until 8th September 2013, does anyone know when we could expect any new routes to be announced? (So far only SOU-BCN has appeared although not with a formal announcement and EXT-BCN/NCE were announced a while ago.)
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S2013 Expansion
Some of this was already known, some it is new..
flyBe Outlines Summer 2013 Expansion
Posted: 09 Oct 2012 09:20 PM PDT
Update at 0420GMT 10OCT12
flyBe today announced planned service expansion for Summer 2013. Initial information on planned service expansion. Reservations for these new routes will be opened soon.
NEW ROUTES
Exeter – Barcelona* 2 weekly
Exeter – Nice* 2 weekly
Southampton – Barcelona eff 02APR13 3 weekly
BE1943 SOU0700 – 1005BCN E95 24
BE1943 SOU1335 – 1640BCN E95 7
BE1944 BCN1045 – 1155SOU E95 24
BE1944 BCN1720 – 1830SOU E95 7
*Previously reported and opened for reservation since September 2012
Following routes to operate during Summer season for the first time in 2013:
Birmingham – Amsterdam 16 weekly
East Midlands – Amsterdam 1 Daily
East Midlands – Glasgow 18 weekly
East Midlands – Jersey 1 Daily (31MAR13 – 30APR13 3 weekly)
East Midlands – Paris CDG 12 weekly
Southampton – Nantes 1 Daily
Planned Frequency Increases on following routes:
Exeter – Alicante
Exeter – Faro
Exeter – Malaga
Exeter – Palma Mallorca
Jersey – Cardiff
London Gatwick – Inverness
Manchester – Newquay
In Summer 2013, flyBe to offer over 2770 weekly flights on more than 120 routes.
Source: Airline routes on line.
flyBe Outlines Summer 2013 Expansion
Posted: 09 Oct 2012 09:20 PM PDT
Update at 0420GMT 10OCT12
flyBe today announced planned service expansion for Summer 2013. Initial information on planned service expansion. Reservations for these new routes will be opened soon.
NEW ROUTES
Exeter – Barcelona* 2 weekly
Exeter – Nice* 2 weekly
Southampton – Barcelona eff 02APR13 3 weekly
BE1943 SOU0700 – 1005BCN E95 24
BE1943 SOU1335 – 1640BCN E95 7
BE1944 BCN1045 – 1155SOU E95 24
BE1944 BCN1720 – 1830SOU E95 7
*Previously reported and opened for reservation since September 2012
Following routes to operate during Summer season for the first time in 2013:
Birmingham – Amsterdam 16 weekly
East Midlands – Amsterdam 1 Daily
East Midlands – Glasgow 18 weekly
East Midlands – Jersey 1 Daily (31MAR13 – 30APR13 3 weekly)
East Midlands – Paris CDG 12 weekly
Southampton – Nantes 1 Daily
Planned Frequency Increases on following routes:
Exeter – Alicante
Exeter – Faro
Exeter – Malaga
Exeter – Palma Mallorca
Jersey – Cardiff
London Gatwick – Inverness
Manchester – Newquay
In Summer 2013, flyBe to offer over 2770 weekly flights on more than 120 routes.
Source: Airline routes on line.
Just had a quick look through the BE online timetable, and still quite a few missing, or reduced, compared to what operated this year, for example:
SOU-INV - not showing at all
NQY-BHD, NCL, NWI, EDI - not showing at all
NQY-GLA - shows starting 27th May, but only 2 per week initially, then 3 from beginning of July. Less than this year which was at least 4pw I think?
No regional France from BHX at all
No regional France from EDI, MAN (apart from NTE) or NCL
Either it's still WIP or this is a sizeable reduction in S13 seasonal flying compared to S12?
SOU-INV - not showing at all
NQY-BHD, NCL, NWI, EDI - not showing at all
NQY-GLA - shows starting 27th May, but only 2 per week initially, then 3 from beginning of July. Less than this year which was at least 4pw I think?
No regional France from BHX at all
No regional France from EDI, MAN (apart from NTE) or NCL
Either it's still WIP or this is a sizeable reduction in S13 seasonal flying compared to S12?
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plus BHX-HAJ stays at a meagre 7/7, down from this summer's 12/7. They must make incredible yields on the BHX-STR route for that to stay at 11/7 despite far lower pax numbers than on BHX-HAJ.
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You are boring me now Lord Spandex, go to bed
Back to the topic of the minute - the S13 schedule. Seems far less than normal, although BE Management were keen to increase leisure flights to Spain etc. Could we maybe see some of these routes opened up from other outstations where FR or MON dont have such a large presence?
Back to the topic of the minute - the S13 schedule. Seems far less than normal, although BE Management were keen to increase leisure flights to Spain etc. Could we maybe see some of these routes opened up from other outstations where FR or MON dont have such a large presence?
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If you don't want to know the answer then don't ask the question.
As it is you can see for yourself there are more engine failures than the one that you know about. Didn't one of your aircraft have two in rather quick succession recently? Was there one in Glasgow recently? Plus the Manchester one? Could be why the share price is lower than it ever has been at the moment.
I'm sure I'll be proved right, or wrong, once the AAIB reports are published.
As for increasing flights to Spain, they might do if the yields were any better than they have been historically.
As it is you can see for yourself there are more engine failures than the one that you know about. Didn't one of your aircraft have two in rather quick succession recently? Was there one in Glasgow recently? Plus the Manchester one? Could be why the share price is lower than it ever has been at the moment.
I'm sure I'll be proved right, or wrong, once the AAIB reports are published.
As for increasing flights to Spain, they might do if the yields were any better than they have been historically.
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summer 2013
London Gatwick – Inverness
not really expansion is it or a frequency increase as this is the first year that this flight has been cut
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Yes Lord Spandex, that is exactly why the share price is down. Technical faults have that effect because the whole world knows about everything that happens 
Your post contains the most ridiculous comment I think I have heard for quite some time so well done.
No-one actually asked for your opinion on these alleged events, however your ability to make a sweeping statement with very little evidence to initially support it did encourage questions. I thank you for answering them, but I choose to ignore it.
Whether or not there have been engine shutdowns inflight I really do not see any relevance to previous comments on the thread. Out of an average of 400 flights a day, the reported number of issues in your post are not really relative to the number of cycles each aircraft completes.
As I say, go to bed Lord Spandex - you are offering little in means of useful content and are just trying to provoke reaction. You have succeeded, so you can hold your head high although this is where the subject ends. Certainly from my part anyway.
To close however, just wish to clarify that it is not my aircraft nor do I work for the company (any longer). However I have a realistic view on the airlines operation.
SCR1 - I thought that, seems its just marketing spin
Your post contains the most ridiculous comment I think I have heard for quite some time so well done. No-one actually asked for your opinion on these alleged events, however your ability to make a sweeping statement with very little evidence to initially support it did encourage questions. I thank you for answering them, but I choose to ignore it.
Whether or not there have been engine shutdowns inflight I really do not see any relevance to previous comments on the thread. Out of an average of 400 flights a day, the reported number of issues in your post are not really relative to the number of cycles each aircraft completes.
As I say, go to bed Lord Spandex - you are offering little in means of useful content and are just trying to provoke reaction. You have succeeded, so you can hold your head high although this is where the subject ends. Certainly from my part anyway.
To close however, just wish to clarify that it is not my aircraft nor do I work for the company (any longer). However I have a realistic view on the airlines operation.
SCR1 - I thought that, seems its just marketing spin
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Originally Posted by Cloud1
No-one actually asked for your opinion on these alleged events, however your ability to make a sweeping statement with very little evidence to initially support it did encourage questions. I thank you for answering them, but I choose to ignore it.
Originally Posted by Cloud1
Lord Spandex, interesting as only aware of one - and that was hardly a drama all things considering. Care to use your rumour network to identify the other examples and share??
You are correct that four engine failures isn't a huge amount but you've chosen to ignore the time frame. Would you agree that four engine failures or shutdowns within a week of each other is rather worrisome?
If you are being provoked into reaction by what I've posted, on a subject on which I appear to have more information than you, that does not mean I am posting for a reaction and says a lot more about your short fuse. Of course you can't really know why I'm posting can ya? Not a good argument.
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I normally listen to what you have got to say but this time I have to say I agree with Cloud1 to a point. Your post/posts were rather dramatic, and even though you stated "and/or in flight shut down" you are continuing with the "engine failure" for effect. You are indeed not in possession of the facts so you do not know whether they were full engine failures or in flight shut downs. Being a pilot yourself you will know there is a distinct difference between the two. I'll give you a clue, there were more IFSD than engine failures. You do the maths.
I normally listen to what you have got to say but this time I have to say I agree with Cloud1 to a point. Your post/posts were rather dramatic, and even though you stated "and/or in flight shut down" you are continuing with the "engine failure" for effect. You are indeed not in possession of the facts so you do not know whether they were full engine failures or in flight shut downs. Being a pilot yourself you will know there is a distinct difference between the two. I'll give you a clue, there were more IFSD than engine failures. You do the maths.
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Fair point AM, any time I've not written in flight shut down alongside engine failure is simply because I couldn't be bothered and not for effect. Of course I could've written IFSD but I didn't, don't know why. I apologise.
I will state that any time I've mentioned engine failure I intended to include IFSDs in that number. Of course if one didn't SDIF then that could well lead to a failure which is why we do shut down.
Three of one and one of the other wasn't it?
I will state that any time I've mentioned engine failure I intended to include IFSDs in that number. Of course if one didn't SDIF then that could well lead to a failure which is why we do shut down.
Three of one and one of the other wasn't it?
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NQY-BHD, NCL, NWI, EDI - not showing at all
NQY-GLA - shows starting
27th May, but only 2 per week initially, then 3 from beginning of July. Less
than this year which was at least 4pw I think?
Thats all looking rather bad for NQY
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anne747380 I travel regulary on the lovely Flybe E-195,just wondering if there is a E-195 "Hangar Queen"?G-FBEH has had a few misshaps.Any idea?
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Hanger queen? What a very odd comment. I didn't know sickly aircraft could be a fetish but guess you learn something new every day 
On a serious note anyone know how many more q400's are going to be retired?
On a serious note anyone know how many more q400's are going to be retired?
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