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I think the writing is on the wall for the ABZ base with Flybe, really can't see a future for it. If the 175 is only to operate MAN and BHX then that seems like a massive under utilisation of an airframe. Shame, some good people up there.
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If the 175 is only to operate MAN and BHX then that seems like a massive under utilisation of an airframe.
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Yes but it's not operating 6 or 8 times a day. It's going to be operating one rotation in the morning and 2 in the afternoon...the rest filled in by aircraft from the MAN and BHX bases...mmmm productive!
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I guess there's no point in flying the thing unless it's making a meaningful contribution to cover the costs.
Perhaps Flybe will get more revenue (and yield) flying MAN/BHX than heading into LGW following their significant increase in charges to smaller aircraft.
Perhaps Flybe will get more revenue (and yield) flying MAN/BHX than heading into LGW following their significant increase in charges to smaller aircraft.
Spring / early summer 2013 for Flybe now released - looks like there's been a fair bit of tweaking and rescheduling compared to summer 2012
Anyone know when Loganair are going to release, or is this all tied up with bmi regional ?
Anyone know when Loganair are going to release, or is this all tied up with bmi regional ?
cs - see for yourself...
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I see that SOU-BCN has been included, I take it Vueling are not coming back on that route?
No seasonal French routes for BHX, considering the very average loads on these this summer will they be back at all? They were released quite late on last season so are they under review?
No seasonal French routes for BHX, considering the very average loads on these this summer will they be back at all? They were released quite late on last season so are they under review?
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NCL-NQY was only a once weekly anyway I think so that sort of passenger numbers aren't too bad tbh.
I'm more concerned that its just MAN & LGW for next year as far as multi weekly flights go.
cs
I'm more concerned that its just MAN & LGW for next year as far as multi weekly flights go.
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The new East Midlands base doesn't add up. All flights to Belfast-City, Edinburgh and Glasgow (which covers the majority of all FlyBe EMA flights) are operated by aircraft from those bases, so doesn't effect East Midlands aircraft. FlyBe have previously said they will have two aircraft at EMA by summer 2013, which seems to be the case.
Take the weekdays, which are all idential in EMA's case. One aircraft seems to be fine, flying: EMA-CDG-EMA-JER-(w route to somwhere else)-JER-EMA-CDG-EMA. The second aircraft shows only 1 rotation, flying: EMA-AMS-EMA, with that flight leaving East Midlands at 14:30. I read on the FlyBe website earlier in the year that they planned to increase the Amsterdam route to twice daily by summer 2013. Two problems:
1) they are only showing once daily
2) Surely they would fly an early morning and evening service if they were to increase to 2 daily flights, meaning this 14:30 departure would be cancelled/moved to a different time.
Even if it were to increase to twice daily, then there would still not be enough flights to cover this second aircraft. It would either:
A) sit on the ground for hours (which I very much doubt)
B) operate W rotations from Amsterdam
C) have some flights from the BHD, EDI or GLA route moved onto this aircraft.
D) operate a new flight/route
I'd say a new flight/route is most likely although what route would it likely to be? I'd say NQY (since BmiBaby flew that route) but that would only go in the summer holiday period realistically which would only solve the issue for 7 or 8 weeks, not the whole summer season and not this March to June time that has been released today.
Any further suggestions as to what the hell is going on???
Take the weekdays, which are all idential in EMA's case. One aircraft seems to be fine, flying: EMA-CDG-EMA-JER-(w route to somwhere else)-JER-EMA-CDG-EMA. The second aircraft shows only 1 rotation, flying: EMA-AMS-EMA, with that flight leaving East Midlands at 14:30. I read on the FlyBe website earlier in the year that they planned to increase the Amsterdam route to twice daily by summer 2013. Two problems:
1) they are only showing once daily
2) Surely they would fly an early morning and evening service if they were to increase to 2 daily flights, meaning this 14:30 departure would be cancelled/moved to a different time.
Even if it were to increase to twice daily, then there would still not be enough flights to cover this second aircraft. It would either:
A) sit on the ground for hours (which I very much doubt)
B) operate W rotations from Amsterdam
C) have some flights from the BHD, EDI or GLA route moved onto this aircraft.
D) operate a new flight/route
I'd say a new flight/route is most likely although what route would it likely to be? I'd say NQY (since BmiBaby flew that route) but that would only go in the summer holiday period realistically which would only solve the issue for 7 or 8 weeks, not the whole summer season and not this March to June time that has been released today.
Any further suggestions as to what the hell is going on???
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Let's wait for the full summer 2013 timetable to be released before jumping to any conclusions. What may seem strange now may get a little rejigging following the release of seasonal routes.
On a different note, anyone care to enlighten me as to when GCI will get a 175 on the LGW route? It's been a long wait...
On a different note, anyone care to enlighten me as to when GCI will get a 175 on the LGW route? It's been a long wait...
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Flybe accuses OFT fof failing to clamp down on card charges - click to view article
I have to say they got a bloody good point
I have to say they got a bloody good point
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This is a very dissapointing chain of events - basically, whether you agree or not with debit card charges it generates an awful lot of revenue for airlines which are currently seeking any method of earning the cash. For those that adhered to the OFTs request, they are essentially waving goodbye to thousands, even millions of pounds a year whilst those that ignored the directive continue to make money out of charging for debit cards.
Just goes to show that when an airline does what its told, it is still essentially penalised. I really hope that the OFT wakeup and seriously take in to consideration Flybes complaint.
In an economy which doesnt do airlines any favours whatsoever, these set backs really have a huge impact.
Just goes to show that when an airline does what its told, it is still essentially penalised. I really hope that the OFT wakeup and seriously take in to consideration Flybes complaint.
In an economy which doesnt do airlines any favours whatsoever, these set backs really have a huge impact.
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I've heard, FOUR engine failure/in flight shut downs in a week!!!
I didn't post it as a fact but a rumour. You might want to get your colleagues to reign in their story telling!
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Thos who have adhered to the instructions set by the OFT are at a disedvantage especially as at first glance prices may be more expensive than those who are not adhering to the instructions.
The whole reason for these instructions were of course not for airlines to stop making money but to stop the fair paying passengers from being charged ludicrous amounts of money for a transaction that in reality costs a fraction of that charged. Also it was to make things more transparent for the customer who would have thought the fare at the beginning would in fact be the end fare until it was too late.
The whole reason for these instructions were of course not for airlines to stop making money but to stop the fair paying passengers from being charged ludicrous amounts of money for a transaction that in reality costs a fraction of that charged. Also it was to make things more transparent for the customer who would have thought the fare at the beginning would in fact be the end fare until it was too late.