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What type of planes do flybe base at abz ...???
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Been at GLA a lot this month and every time I pass through there appears to be an ERJ190 parked up on the domestic pier. Indeed tonight it was joined by an ERJ170 that was closed up for the day at 6pm. Is such a leisurely schedule profitable, especially given the carnage on Dash reliability.
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Is the plan still to send 2 more Q400's to Brussels Airlines?
There seems to have been quite a few adjustments to various booking engines in the last week: -
BHX - Hamburg ending 9/9/12 (GDS & flybe)
MAN-BRU no longer bookable from 9/9 (flybe)
BHX-BRU in winter has changed from 2 x RJ85/3 x RJ100 to 4 x RJ100 and 1 x Tyrolean and no flybe (GDS & Brussels Airlines).
One aircraft base for East Mids this winter operating CDG & AMS plus an away based Q400 from Jersey on some days in addition to the GLA & EDI starting in September.
BRS & EDI - Brussels is still showing as flybe this winter, as it Brussels to HAJ & HAM.
Another aircraft required at BHX in the winter for Amsterdam (assuming no other route cancellations) and how does this sit with the code-share on AMS-SOU as they will be competitors at BHX?
Is it just a case that schedules have not been finalised or in the process of change or has there been a change of plan with the Q400's.
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There seems to have been quite a few adjustments to various booking engines in the last week: -
BHX - Hamburg ending 9/9/12 (GDS & flybe)
MAN-BRU no longer bookable from 9/9 (flybe)
BHX-BRU in winter has changed from 2 x RJ85/3 x RJ100 to 4 x RJ100 and 1 x Tyrolean and no flybe (GDS & Brussels Airlines).
One aircraft base for East Mids this winter operating CDG & AMS plus an away based Q400 from Jersey on some days in addition to the GLA & EDI starting in September.
BRS & EDI - Brussels is still showing as flybe this winter, as it Brussels to HAJ & HAM.
Another aircraft required at BHX in the winter for Amsterdam (assuming no other route cancellations) and how does this sit with the code-share on AMS-SOU as they will be competitors at BHX?
Is it just a case that schedules have not been finalised or in the process of change or has there been a change of plan with the Q400's.
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The current plan, which of course is subject to change, is for two additional Q400s to join the Brussels Airlines wet lease from Sept/Oct.
As I understand it those two additional aircraft will operate NCL-BRU and BRS-BRU 3x daily (overnighting at the UK end). The two current aircraft currently overnight in HAJ and BHX but not sure whether that will change in the winter.
I've not heard anything about EDI but perhaps if one of the aircraft will no longer by overnighting in BHX maybe it will overnight in EDI instead (purely speculating now).
As I understand it those two additional aircraft will operate NCL-BRU and BRS-BRU 3x daily (overnighting at the UK end). The two current aircraft currently overnight in HAJ and BHX but not sure whether that will change in the winter.
I've not heard anything about EDI but perhaps if one of the aircraft will no longer by overnighting in BHX maybe it will overnight in EDI instead (purely speculating now).
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G-FBEA went tech in ALC yesterday on the SOU flight (looked as though it was landing gear related), flew in an engineer but were unable to fix it in time to fly back so sent in the standby E195 from BHX. After countless delays from lazy and incompetent spanish airport staff (Crew requested fuel 30mins before arriving at ALC but the truck didn't arrive until after everyone had boarded!) ATC were also very slow considering the plane didn't leave until 11:20pm so had to land at BOH in the end. Terrible service for the passengers especially from Aena, zero information from anyone during a 10 hour delay is appalling. Well done to the Flybe crew for doing what they could on the flight though and doing what they could to lighten up a miserable experience!
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Without that spare at BHX it left total devastation to the schedule yesterday, with consolidations, cancellations and this was even with the Denin Air operating the evening Hanover!!!!
Note the flybe timetable shows Southampton will get another visiting 175 from October under the current plan - Edinburgh based operating three daily in the week complementing the 195/Q400's operating from the Southampton base.
Pete
Without that spare at BHX it left total devastation to the schedule yesterday, with consolidations, cancellations and this was even with the Denin Air operating the evening Hanover!!!!
Note the flybe timetable shows Southampton will get another visiting 175 from October under the current plan - Edinburgh based operating three daily in the week complementing the 195/Q400's operating from the Southampton base.
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Frenchy says..................
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In July 2012, scheduled seats flown by Flybe UK totalled 1.07 million, a reduction of 2.7% on July 2011. Passenger revenue per seat in July 2012 showed a decrease of 1.8% on July 2011.
Forward ticket sales revenue for Flybe UK for the remainder of the 2012 summer flying programme from August to October currently shows an increase of 0.3% over the same time last year, against scheduled seat capacity down by circa 2%, with yield growth being offset by a reduction in passenger numbers.
Market share of the Flybe brand in the UK regional market (excluding London) in the three months to 30 June 2012 was 51.2% (Q1 2011/12: 51.8%).
As a result of the current revenue outlook, we are targeting further cost saving initiatives through a range of measures, including capacity management and supplier cost reduction.
In July 2012, scheduled seats flown by Flybe UK totalled 1.07 million, a reduction of 2.7% on July 2011. Passenger revenue per seat in July 2012 showed a decrease of 1.8% on July 2011.
Forward ticket sales revenue for Flybe UK for the remainder of the 2012 summer flying programme from August to October currently shows an increase of 0.3% over the same time last year, against scheduled seat capacity down by circa 2%, with yield growth being offset by a reduction in passenger numbers.
Market share of the Flybe brand in the UK regional market (excluding London) in the three months to 30 June 2012 was 51.2% (Q1 2011/12: 51.8%).
As a result of the current revenue outlook, we are targeting further cost saving initiatives through a range of measures, including capacity management and supplier cost reduction.
With oil at $100 per barrel and the UK economy not going anywhere, they're suffering just like the regionals in the USA.
I can think of the standard kneejerk reactions like pay freeze / hiring freeze (or even redundancies) and cutting or reducing loss-making routes, but a slashing approach sometimes does more long-term harm than good.
What is Flybe meant to do to fix things ?
I can think of the standard kneejerk reactions like pay freeze / hiring freeze (or even redundancies) and cutting or reducing loss-making routes, but a slashing approach sometimes does more long-term harm than good.
What is Flybe meant to do to fix things ?
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What is Flybe meant to do to fix things ?
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Flybe will either be taken over or be forced into slashing cost by removing airframes and routes. Clearly the current loss making situation cannot continue long term and with no chance of oil reducing substantially, they have to do something. With a third of seats being empty, demand just is not there.
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Snigs has hit the nail on the head here.
Logistics seem to waist a fortune on taxis, hire cars & train fares shipping crew around unefficiently.
I could give countless examples of different crew being sent from the same base to another base in different taxis around the same time, each at a huge cost. The list could go on.
IMHO Hotac need a big shake up and sorting out. A fortune could be saved here. I would strongly advise JF or AS to have a close look at this.
Logistics seem to waist a fortune on taxis, hire cars & train fares shipping crew around unefficiently.
I could give countless examples of different crew being sent from the same base to another base in different taxis around the same time, each at a huge cost. The list could go on.
IMHO Hotac need a big shake up and sorting out. A fortune could be saved here. I would strongly advise JF or AS to have a close look at this.
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Yup, there is a lot of waste that can be nipped and tucked which would make the books look a bit healthier. However, as to fixing things, I agree that kneejerk reaction is the last thing we need. Flybe's business plan is sound, they know the route structure (particularly Gatwick) needs work and that they need to remain pro-active with future opportunities. The good thing is, this is their game, they've been doing it well for years.
The report looks pretty bleak but I believe, if they jusy keep doing what they're doing, synergise (I'm really sorry about that) where they can, dull perseverence will pay off.
Cup still half full.
The report looks pretty bleak but I believe, if they jusy keep doing what they're doing, synergise (I'm really sorry about that) where they can, dull perseverence will pay off.
Cup still half full.
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Anyone know what the loads are like on the LGW-NQY route ?
Since the demise of SZ on the route it has gone from 3 BE and 4 SZ to just the BE rotations.
with passenger numbers in June 2012 down to 8927 from 9944 the previous year with the 2 operators on the route, thats a 10% drop
If the BE rotations are doing well does anyone think that theres scope for a 4th flight per day ?
cs
Since the demise of SZ on the route it has gone from 3 BE and 4 SZ to just the BE rotations.
with passenger numbers in June 2012 down to 8927 from 9944 the previous year with the 2 operators on the route, thats a 10% drop
If the BE rotations are doing well does anyone think that theres scope for a 4th flight per day ?
cs
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Cost discipline missing?
How many staff from Jersey European are still at Flybe? Does this have an impact on the culture? They have a good business model and unique set of routes but if they don't have the mind-set of cost control then they will fall at the hurdle that is the longest economic slump in history.