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they do not operate flights between two non-bases: i.e. all flights either arrive or depart at MAN, EMA, CWL or BHX.
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They are doing BFS-PRG this winter and have flown GLA-NOC in the past
But even so I can't see an opening in the market for a 733 operated route with a 2.55 round trip time. It would be nice it there was though!
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Have we yet worked out where the 3 extra aircraft planned for EMA next summer are coming from? Are the two things linked (the second being this apparent gap in the JER schedules)?
Hypothesis: the CWL base is to be pulled and the people in Donnington are mid-way through re-working bits of the schedule to be able to fit various XXX-CWL-XXX W-patterns into the revised program in order that a number of routes to CWL might be retained even if there are no aircraft to be based there?
Hypothesis: the CWL base is to be pulled and the people in Donnington are mid-way through re-working bits of the schedule to be able to fit various XXX-CWL-XXX W-patterns into the revised program in order that a number of routes to CWL might be retained even if there are no aircraft to be based there?
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baby W pattern Ex CWL
Globetrotter,
I think your W pattern from another base to serve those routes currently on offer from CWL is a bit of a non-starter.
The FTL scheme would hamper such a move big time, and to work at all would involve bussing crews around from other bases which again would prove problematic.
I think that the CWL base is safe and well..........
I think your W pattern from another base to serve those routes currently on offer from CWL is a bit of a non-starter.
The FTL scheme would hamper such a move big time, and to work at all would involve bussing crews around from other bases which again would prove problematic.
I think that the CWL base is safe and well..........
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No idea about the 'cwl' base or any extra aircraft but as for the W patterns, well unfortunately this does seem to be a bit of a favorite at the moment at HQ as mainline have been doing it since March on most of their charter stuff (lgw-jtr-man-dlm-gla, etc) and most guys have at least a couple of seemingly pointless bus/taxi repositioning trips on each roster.
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A300BOY
Welcome to the club !!!
We did plenty of taxi and mini bus positioning in the Dan-Air days and my present employer is not averse to positoning by two commercial flight legs followed by a taxi to the departure point then operate one leg followed by two commercial flights legs tback o base.
We did plenty of taxi and mini bus positioning in the Dan-Air days and my present employer is not averse to positoning by two commercial flight legs followed by a taxi to the departure point then operate one leg followed by two commercial flights legs tback o base.
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Grenoble short-lived?
Prompt from the Cardiff thread.
Checked BHX-GNB at 17.15 and got quoted a fare and again
at 17.30 after checking for EMA and all flights gone!
No Grenoble from anywhere by the look of it for Baby.
Pete
Checked BHX-GNB at 17.15 and got quoted a fare and again
at 17.30 after checking for EMA and all flights gone!
No Grenoble from anywhere by the look of it for Baby.
Pete
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WW - Gnb Routes
Not good if true and the route is fully cancelled. There was however talk a few weeks back that they were going to change the route to operate into either Chamberry or Lyon... I don't see why they would do that unless there is a disagreament at GNB or the route is not performing as well as hoped.
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bmibaby summer 2010
The Good News
New routes from EMA
> As we know, the followinng routes have been announced (not stated as NEW news, but as GOOD news non the less)
Cork 4 x weekly
Venice 4 x weekly
Barcelona 4 x weekly
Malta 2 x weekly
Dubrovnik 2 x weekly
Newquay 3 x weekly
Alghero 1 x weekly
Bastia (Corsica) 1 x weekly
As well as increased frequency on Faro, Palma, Malaga, Alicante, Nice, Prague and Geneva.
New routes from MAN
Faro 3 x weekly
Lourdes 2 x weekly
As we all know, this expansion at EMA is going to need an extra 3 aircraft based there...
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The Not so good news
Over the past couple of days the Alicante and Malaga routes from Manchester have become unavailable to book and passengers booked on these services have been issued a refund. From someone i know booked on the AGP service explanation or alternate given, other than the usual operational issues statement. Is this just start of a mass culling of routes from MAN? or could it just be a major rescheduling to the summer program at MAN next year? I really hope that they are not sourcing the additional aircraft from other bases, as they will be biting there nose off to spite their tails... I thought the MAN base would be performing well especially on these routes, so that's why i am baffled. Also earlier in the year, did they not say how well they are doing at MAN and how they planned future expansion there...
Other rumours; Reducing the CWL base further or even closing the base. Not much news on the BHX front however though, so hopefully nothing there will get reduced or changed!
Anyone have any more news or info ?
Aidoair
New routes from EMA
> As we know, the followinng routes have been announced (not stated as NEW news, but as GOOD news non the less)
Cork 4 x weekly
Venice 4 x weekly
Barcelona 4 x weekly
Malta 2 x weekly
Dubrovnik 2 x weekly
Newquay 3 x weekly
Alghero 1 x weekly
Bastia (Corsica) 1 x weekly
As well as increased frequency on Faro, Palma, Malaga, Alicante, Nice, Prague and Geneva.
New routes from MAN
Faro 3 x weekly
Lourdes 2 x weekly
As we all know, this expansion at EMA is going to need an extra 3 aircraft based there...
---
The Not so good news
Over the past couple of days the Alicante and Malaga routes from Manchester have become unavailable to book and passengers booked on these services have been issued a refund. From someone i know booked on the AGP service explanation or alternate given, other than the usual operational issues statement. Is this just start of a mass culling of routes from MAN? or could it just be a major rescheduling to the summer program at MAN next year? I really hope that they are not sourcing the additional aircraft from other bases, as they will be biting there nose off to spite their tails... I thought the MAN base would be performing well especially on these routes, so that's why i am baffled. Also earlier in the year, did they not say how well they are doing at MAN and how they planned future expansion there...
Other rumours; Reducing the CWL base further or even closing the base. Not much news on the BHX front however though, so hopefully nothing there will get reduced or changed!
Anyone have any more news or info ?
Aidoair
Last edited by aidoair; 12th Oct 2009 at 20:06. Reason: To add: (not stated as NEW news, but as GOOD news non the less)
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aidoair
The new routes for bmibaby were released nearly a month ago now... this is no real news unless you're using it as a quote, "check comment 456". As for AGP and ALC this is for the winter only as I am aware of and should be back for the summer along with PMI.
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Yes i know this! I was one of the first to comment about it, however i used that in my posting to explain the '' not so good news '' should there be any relation to it...
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Man-agp & Alc
The Manchester - Malaga and Alicante suspensions were first
reported on the Manchester thread by TartinTon on 2/10/09
At the time I checked the full schedule for MAN/BHX/CWL.
MAN-AGP & MAN-ALC operates over Christmas (didn't check Easter)
but is not bookable next summer.
Cardiff now fits two based aircraft at least until Christmas.
BHX had an added Prague flight making 5 weekly for December only.
Manchester from June onwards seems busy and so does Cardiff (51
weekly flights).
BHX had about 96 flights in June and due to the timinggs need
six based in the morning and evening with several gaps in between.
Cardiff is extremely poor this winter but the summer schedule
looks very good with few gaps from June onwards and a pull-out
after releasing all these flights would be a shock but who knows
what LH have planned.
BHX will get several new routes or increased frequencies or failing
that, the schedule will be completely re-timed to fit five aircraft.
Since 2/10/09 very little has changed and I have been checking!
Pete
reported on the Manchester thread by TartinTon on 2/10/09
At the time I checked the full schedule for MAN/BHX/CWL.
MAN-AGP & MAN-ALC operates over Christmas (didn't check Easter)
but is not bookable next summer.
Cardiff now fits two based aircraft at least until Christmas.
BHX had an added Prague flight making 5 weekly for December only.
Manchester from June onwards seems busy and so does Cardiff (51
weekly flights).
BHX had about 96 flights in June and due to the timinggs need
six based in the morning and evening with several gaps in between.
Cardiff is extremely poor this winter but the summer schedule
looks very good with few gaps from June onwards and a pull-out
after releasing all these flights would be a shock but who knows
what LH have planned.
BHX will get several new routes or increased frequencies or failing
that, the schedule will be completely re-timed to fit five aircraft.
Since 2/10/09 very little has changed and I have been checking!
Pete
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Here's a conspiracy theory for you.....
German Wings web site allows you to select flights from MAN to a number of destinations - all of which are BMI Baby destinations. No flight details and not able to book, but are they preparing for a code share or more??????
Those crafty Germans
German Wings web site allows you to select flights from MAN to a number of destinations - all of which are BMI Baby destinations. No flight details and not able to book, but are they preparing for a code share or more??????
Those crafty Germans
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I just tried to book and got this....
The connection from Manchester to Cork
is operated by our partner bmibaby.
You can book those flights directly.
Do you want to be redirected to bmibaby now?
Bmibaby's bid to beat 'bloodbath'| News | This is London
The connection from Manchester to Cork
is operated by our partner bmibaby.
You can book those flights directly.
Do you want to be redirected to bmibaby now?
Bmibaby's bid to beat 'bloodbath'| News | This is London
Last edited by daz211; 14th Oct 2009 at 20:11. Reason: more info and link
Whilst that article is old, this link from EMA thread isn't
Germanwings opens new routes to Birmingham (BHX),Malaga (AGP),Amsterdam (AMS),Barcelona (BCN),Faro (FAO),Nice (NCE),Palma Mallorca (PMI),Prague (PRG),Cologne (CGN),Menorca (MAH),Copenhagen (CPH),Madrid (MAD),Cardiff (CWL),Alicante (ALC),Nottingham (E
Germanwings opens new routes to Birmingham (BHX),Malaga (AGP),Amsterdam (AMS),Barcelona (BCN),Faro (FAO),Nice (NCE),Palma Mallorca (PMI),Prague (PRG),Cologne (CGN),Menorca (MAH),Copenhagen (CPH),Madrid (MAD),Cardiff (CWL),Alicante (ALC),Nottingham (E
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Would be nice if they checked the info before publishing. You may be able to see the schedules on Germanwings but you can't book them. You get a referral back to the bmibaby website. I'm assuming that baby will have also "opened new routes" to all the germanwings destinations.......