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Who knows whats going to happen the main way to cut down costs would be to pool resources (looking outside picture CWL-FRA iso BRS-FRA) One base better deal possibly.
I recently heard that WW recruited flight deck for a fourth a/c at CWL and then when it didn't happen they were stuck at either EMA or BHX for a couple of months.
WW has a brand to keep at CWL and unless something gets done BE will probably come out on top. Extra a/c may allow the oppourtunity for the weekend breaks that CWL is lacking that the BRS carriers have plus one or two new routes.
It all comes down to how many a/c are coming over/being leased.
Well rumour has it Ibiza to return to CWL and in S10 and routes to keep all 3 a/c busy are being sold.
I recently heard that WW recruited flight deck for a fourth a/c at CWL and then when it didn't happen they were stuck at either EMA or BHX for a couple of months.
WW has a brand to keep at CWL and unless something gets done BE will probably come out on top. Extra a/c may allow the oppourtunity for the weekend breaks that CWL is lacking that the BRS carriers have plus one or two new routes.
It all comes down to how many a/c are coming over/being leased.
This is excellent news for bmibaby. I presume they are getting extra aircraft and not reducing numbers at airports elsewhere?!?
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There are a few B737.700's flying around looking for lease and sale at the moment, ex SkyEurope, Sterling, easyJet aircraft, all available, so maybe WW's future fleet could be with them for the expansion at EMA?
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LH has a few 733 and 735, are all of these part of the main LH fleet or are they with the likes of Germanwings and other airlines taken over/merged with LH?
A figure i heared was a total of up to 6 aircraft to go to WW but that was once again on the grapevine from somone who had been talking to the guys and girls up at EMA.
A figure i heared was a total of up to 6 aircraft to go to WW but that was once again on the grapevine from somone who had been talking to the guys and girls up at EMA.
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Lufty have 63 x 737 500's and 300's. These are all in their mainline fleet and I believe are owned outright.
Lufty are starting to park some of these aircraft, so they'd be good candidates for baby ...
Lufty are starting to park some of these aircraft, so they'd be good candidates for baby ...
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EMA new routes !
Well the routes have gone on sale today. There's some decent frequency on most of them and a couple with just a weekly flight but that makes sense on the target market they are aiming those flights to. The med routes have also been increased and Malaga is even upto 3x daily one a saturday! So so far looking good baby! 
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well one way to cut cost is to send the aircraft owned outright over to WW when the leases are due to run out. This may have been the plan with a few of the WW fleet going back to lessors last year.
Reduce fleet size while we were in recession and then transfer the LH fleet over once it starts to pick up/ or ideal oppourtunity.
Is there likely to be any more good news? I heared the IBZ has now dissapeared from CWL route offering before it even goes on sale.
Reduce fleet size while we were in recession and then transfer the LH fleet over once it starts to pick up/ or ideal oppourtunity.
Is there likely to be any more good news? I heared the IBZ has now dissapeared from CWL route offering before it even goes on sale.
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Dont get too carried away with all this talk of LH 73's moving to WW. There is plenty of talk aound of LH entering talks with the likes of BA, VS, EY and other to sell the bmi group.
You may be more on th ebutton considering what any of these airlines might want to do with WW.
You may be more on th ebutton considering what any of these airlines might want to do with WW.
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Whilst what you say is correct, i suspect that many of the baby crews feel far more secure about their futures this weekend, for mainline and regional they know there is probably more blood shed to come! whilst i wish them well for the future, some of the comments from the mainline community about, with LH we will be rid of LoCo & baby ring very shallow, how ironic if the shake out from this was that LH ended up owning baby, but sold moved on striped mainline and regional? as for regional i would not like to be in the manager shoes in ABZ what ever happens whether it be LH or Flybe i can't see a remote operation continuing give current losses
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The simple answer - none scheduled to operate in the timetable.
BHX - NOC on Tuesdays finished last week I think and so has
the Wednesday. This is further reduced in winter when the
Saturday service stops until April.
BHX - NOC only goes daily on 13/7/10.
The Manchester schedule shows that the Tuesday service
stops for a few weeks but re-starts at the end of the month.
No idea why that would be but that how it reads in the timetable.
BHX-NOC figures were very good in August at 7596 or 123 per
flight but on the whole they have been reducing and as the
summer holidays have ended the Tue & Wed service have been
chopped already.
By the end of September it is not only Knock from BHX that is
reduced but Barcelona ends and Nice sees frequency cuts.
A tad surprised re BCN especially as this winter FR have cut REU
leaving just Girona at four a week and also the possibility of easyjet
cutting BCN from EMA in the new year.
Pete
The simple answer - none scheduled to operate in the timetable.
BHX - NOC on Tuesdays finished last week I think and so has
the Wednesday. This is further reduced in winter when the
Saturday service stops until April.
BHX - NOC only goes daily on 13/7/10.
The Manchester schedule shows that the Tuesday service
stops for a few weeks but re-starts at the end of the month.
No idea why that would be but that how it reads in the timetable.
BHX-NOC figures were very good in August at 7596 or 123 per
flight but on the whole they have been reducing and as the
summer holidays have ended the Tue & Wed service have been
chopped already.
By the end of September it is not only Knock from BHX that is
reduced but Barcelona ends and Nice sees frequency cuts.
A tad surprised re BCN especially as this winter FR have cut REU
leaving just Girona at four a week and also the possibility of easyjet
cutting BCN from EMA in the new year.
Pete
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Out of interest, is bmibaby intending to launch a new route to Jersey next summer? Looking at the schedule, there is a gap between the arrival and departure times of the East Midlands aircraft on Mondays, Fridays and Saturdays, which suggests that the aircraft could operate a ‘W’ pattern of some sort. The 2.55 available is not currently a long enough period to operate another route considering turnaround and flight times, but obviously such times can alter. Is it perhaps a return for the short-lived Birmingham route of a few years back or simply an error?
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Out of interest, is bmibaby intending to launch a new route to Jersey next summer? Looking at the schedule, there is a gap between the arrival and departure times of the East Midlands aircraft on Mondays, Fridays and Saturdays, which suggests that the aircraft could operate a ‘W’ pattern of some sort. The 2.55 available is not currently a long enough period to operate another route considering turnaround and flight times, but obviously such times can alter. Is it perhaps a return for the short-lived Birmingham route of a few years back or simply an error?
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I would think the only thing (if any) this would indicate is the re-introduction of the BHX service. This was introduced a few years back and was cut after about a year (I guess) of operation.
As we all know JER is not a base for WW, and they do not operate flights between two non-bases: i.e. all flights either arrive or depart at MAN, EMA, CWL or BHX. I think this has been the case throughout their history and I do not see this changing without them spotting a gaping hole in the market. And to be honest, from here everything looks pretty well covered: BE would have taken care of any potential route long before WW would have noticed.
So yes, my bet is scheduling error: ie the pax who book the flight will get an all too familiar 'Schedule Change' email from WW. If not, the reintroduction of a BHX service is a possibility, pax numbers were fairly good last time round.
As we all know JER is not a base for WW, and they do not operate flights between two non-bases: i.e. all flights either arrive or depart at MAN, EMA, CWL or BHX. I think this has been the case throughout their history and I do not see this changing without them spotting a gaping hole in the market. And to be honest, from here everything looks pretty well covered: BE would have taken care of any potential route long before WW would have noticed.
So yes, my bet is scheduling error: ie the pax who book the flight will get an all too familiar 'Schedule Change' email from WW. If not, the reintroduction of a BHX service is a possibility, pax numbers were fairly good last time round.