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German wings? NO!
G-TOYC Went ages ago i have never even seen it ive seen all baby 737 apart from G-TOYI And G-TOYC. bmibaby have high load factors when i checked a flybe flight it only had 2 Pasengers onobard!! My Edinbrugh flight back only had 2 Seats left. Most Peeps that i have met have traveled with baby.
Germanwings can go away we dont want any German Low-cost Airlines at my Airport!
BHX Has got to go!! EMA Is Down the road!!
But they Probaly will go with GW As long as the brand stays the same il be happy.
And for the missing Aircraft?? Last year bmi lent baby there mainline fleet was it leased from them?? bmi may lend baby there mainline fleet?
Germanwings can go away we dont want any German Low-cost Airlines at my Airport!
BHX Has got to go!! EMA Is Down the road!!
But they Probaly will go with GW As long as the brand stays the same il be happy.
And for the missing Aircraft?? Last year bmi lent baby there mainline fleet was it leased from them?? bmi may lend baby there mainline fleet?
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G-TOYC
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You will find life hard on this forum unless you at least deal in some facts.
G-TOYC has not operated for whole week! It flew Faro -East Mids on 24/10 and then positioned to Budapest on 25/10.
What I suspect you mean it has not visited Cardiff for a while as indeed
acarsd confirms that it did not operate at CWL during October. Life does not begin and end in Cardiff, I think!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wednesday probably will bring some disruption for BHX based staff if half the rumours are true and my thoughts are with them. Comments such as "BHX Has got to go" will no doubt cheer them up no end!!!
Pete
You will find life hard on this forum unless you at least deal in some facts.
G-TOYC has not operated for whole week! It flew Faro -East Mids on 24/10 and then positioned to Budapest on 25/10.
What I suspect you mean it has not visited Cardiff for a while as indeed
acarsd confirms that it did not operate at CWL during October. Life does not begin and end in Cardiff, I think!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wednesday probably will bring some disruption for BHX based staff if half the rumours are true and my thoughts are with them. Comments such as "BHX Has got to go" will no doubt cheer them up no end!!!
Pete
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Haven't heard anything that suggests that any leases are to be renegotiated or replacement aircraft sourced. In fact management have gone to ground the last week or so which is the best indication of the way this is going.
The rumour of LH classics coming to the rescue is hope over expectation. I don't like to be the profit of doom but I think Hudson is pretty much spot on. Not cos I know but because if it was my money p***** out the door that's what I'd do. I'd shut it down as quickly and as cheaply as I could and chopping the leases as they end is the easiest and cheapest way. I'd also chop Tiny Town now as there is no point having all that back up for so few aircraft and such a small operation. I'm sure some part of LH could do the same work, or a small portacabin would suffice.
Unfortunately we are left in the position that Baby is worth nothing, it loses money and would need a massive investment to turn round and GW doesnt want it. No presents for the family this Christmas I fancy !
The rumour of LH classics coming to the rescue is hope over expectation. I don't like to be the profit of doom but I think Hudson is pretty much spot on. Not cos I know but because if it was my money p***** out the door that's what I'd do. I'd shut it down as quickly and as cheaply as I could and chopping the leases as they end is the easiest and cheapest way. I'd also chop Tiny Town now as there is no point having all that back up for so few aircraft and such a small operation. I'm sure some part of LH could do the same work, or a small portacabin would suffice.
Unfortunately we are left in the position that Baby is worth nothing, it loses money and would need a massive investment to turn round and GW doesnt want it. No presents for the family this Christmas I fancy !
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Didn't G-TOYC, YI and G-ODSK all go to Budapest last year for Maintenance, could just be this? It would make sense to get rid of either G-TOYA or G-TOYC as they are some of the older B733 fleet, apart from G-OBMP
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Slighlty off thread but TOYA,B,C,D are the only members of the 300 fleet to have had no internal cosmetic work done on them. All the other fleet are now in leather seats, hence would lead me to belive that A and D are soon to leave.
G-OBMP does however continue to be in the mis-match of seats but have a feeling thats its owned and not leased. So not sure why not refitted.
Another worrying time for all staff again, and yet again no communication from Managment, Tiny Town, BMI or LH. Lets see what Wed's brings, good luck everyone.
G-OBMP does however continue to be in the mis-match of seats but have a feeling thats its owned and not leased. So not sure why not refitted.
Another worrying time for all staff again, and yet again no communication from Managment, Tiny Town, BMI or LH. Lets see what Wed's brings, good luck everyone.
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CV,
Why would you hear anything? Leasing deals often go to the wire as better rates are secured that way. It might surprise you to know that business goes on, even during recessions. People may have less money now but they still want to holiday abroad and they use no frills airlines. LH have forgotten more about running airlines than you will ever know and they don't share your defeatist views. Things will be very tight for quite some time but all is not lost yet. I would be interested to know why you take such a sadistic delight in forcasting our demise?
Haven't heard anything that suggests that any leases are to be renegotiated or replacement aircraft sourced. In fact management have gone to ground the last week or so which is the best indication of the way this is going.
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TOYA to D & GBD leases expire next year. YC in Budapest on check at LHT and (like YB) with reduced flying it may make financial sense to park up prior to handback if that's planned
Think the rumour and conjecture is getting bit much now. Considering the press/media are so vilified on this site some of what is being spouted is not helpful to anyone. Yes, this is a rumour site but this thread is turning into a 'for my 2 penneth' column. It is obvious there will be some bad news on Wednesday and there will be a lot of upset people. Comments about 'just shuttingTinytown' and 'my base is more important than yours' doesn't help anyone. People are worried as it is with the uncertainty. Having expeienced redundancy I wouldn't wish it on anyone especially in the current job climate and Xmas just round the corner
Anyway rant over, let's wait til Wednesday. For all those affected by the announcement best of luck
Right, I'll get me coat.........
Think the rumour and conjecture is getting bit much now. Considering the press/media are so vilified on this site some of what is being spouted is not helpful to anyone. Yes, this is a rumour site but this thread is turning into a 'for my 2 penneth' column. It is obvious there will be some bad news on Wednesday and there will be a lot of upset people. Comments about 'just shuttingTinytown' and 'my base is more important than yours' doesn't help anyone. People are worried as it is with the uncertainty. Having expeienced redundancy I wouldn't wish it on anyone especially in the current job climate and Xmas just round the corner
Anyway rant over, let's wait til Wednesday. For all those affected by the announcement best of luck
Right, I'll get me coat.........
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Please, BB319, make use of a spell checker!
Or:
Peas MM193 mak youse av a spoul cheka?
A little punctuation goes a long way as well. Your posts can be a challenge to interpret!
Or:
Peas MM193 mak youse av a spoul cheka?
A little punctuation goes a long way as well. Your posts can be a challenge to interpret!
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At last some common sense - Facelookbovvered North Stand tier 3 
Whilst some of you might wish baby out of existence I really can't see what you're basing this upon. The facts as laid out by Facelookbovvered suggest DLH have a long term plan for Baby. Times are hard and we may be facing some restructuring but that is pretty normal given a change of ownership.
Personally I'm more optimistic now we have some new management at the helm - I'd have been more concerned if the top floor hadn't been swept clean.
As for aircraft leases not being renewed I think its likely that better deals are to be had and we won't need these aircraft until Spring so why pay for aircraft to sit idle all winter?
Whilst some of you might wish baby out of existence I really can't see what you're basing this upon. The facts as laid out by Facelookbovvered suggest DLH have a long term plan for Baby. Times are hard and we may be facing some restructuring but that is pretty normal given a change of ownership.
Personally I'm more optimistic now we have some new management at the helm - I'd have been more concerned if the top floor hadn't been swept clean.
As for aircraft leases not being renewed I think its likely that better deals are to be had and we won't need these aircraft until Spring so why pay for aircraft to sit idle all winter?
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Bmibaby CWL
Tbi....
I don't think for one second that baby are going to pull CWL. Pete Durnford likes the base, it has relatively good load factors on the current routes with 2 x 733, and hopefully things will improve again for S10.
If further rationalisation is needed then my money would go on BHX closing as a base with W rotations being flown out of EMA to cover the customer base in Birmingham. EMA is after all only 38 miles from BHX so getting crews to and fro is not going to be a show stopper, and folk will get used to it.
I have said it before but baby is a brand that does have a presence and I am sure will be around for a while yet!!
Ant.
Just to add further from my CWL post.
It must be very worrying to have various uncertainties hanging in the wings but.........
1. Baby has a massive brand presence in the UK.
2. It would be commercial madness for lufthansa to ignore that.
3. There is a synergy with GW that has to be exploited further.
4. The 733 fleet has to be phased out due to cost.
5. A319 frames could be rolled in to takeover from the a/c due to be handed back, more efficient, already available, and fills a void in the LH group.
6. CWL base for historic HR reasons is the obvious choice to be the launch site for A319 startup within baby for the UK. A lot of the crews are "Toulouse" trained already, and there are very competent people in place to run with the project.
A lot of doom and gloom has been posted in recent days...... bmibaby is here to stay and will restructure and grow IMHO.
One year from now this process will have started and the future for these outstanding folk will be secure.
Wait out.
Ant
Tbi....
I don't think for one second that baby are going to pull CWL. Pete Durnford likes the base, it has relatively good load factors on the current routes with 2 x 733, and hopefully things will improve again for S10.
If further rationalisation is needed then my money would go on BHX closing as a base with W rotations being flown out of EMA to cover the customer base in Birmingham. EMA is after all only 38 miles from BHX so getting crews to and fro is not going to be a show stopper, and folk will get used to it.
I have said it before but baby is a brand that does have a presence and I am sure will be around for a while yet!!
Ant.
Just to add further from my CWL post.
It must be very worrying to have various uncertainties hanging in the wings but.........
1. Baby has a massive brand presence in the UK.
2. It would be commercial madness for lufthansa to ignore that.
3. There is a synergy with GW that has to be exploited further.
4. The 733 fleet has to be phased out due to cost.
5. A319 frames could be rolled in to takeover from the a/c due to be handed back, more efficient, already available, and fills a void in the LH group.
6. CWL base for historic HR reasons is the obvious choice to be the launch site for A319 startup within baby for the UK. A lot of the crews are "Toulouse" trained already, and there are very competent people in place to run with the project.
A lot of doom and gloom has been posted in recent days...... bmibaby is here to stay and will restructure and grow IMHO.
One year from now this process will have started and the future for these outstanding folk will be secure.
Wait out.
Ant
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Sorry For the Spelling guys, I Like to type fast!
The Summer Period at CWL Ended to today. G-TOYF Went back to EMA Today, Now only G-TOYM And G-OBMP is at the base So there is only Two Based now, But another A/C Should come back in the Spring.
bmibaby have a Great name which Probaly made them Pouplar.
Well baby will have to Bring more Airframes back in the Summer. This Could be the Begining of the end of the 733 at Baby
The Summer Period at CWL Ended to today. G-TOYF Went back to EMA Today, Now only G-TOYM And G-OBMP is at the base So there is only Two Based now, But another A/C Should come back in the Spring.
bmibaby have a Great name which Probaly made them Pouplar.
Well baby will have to Bring more Airframes back in the Summer. This Could be the Begining of the end of the 733 at Baby