Bmibaby

[Little Blue]

There goes that flying pig again !!!!

[mathers_wales_uk]

Where you hear that from?

[Waterbabe22]

Where did you hear that?

i think you should cite your clearly non-existent or dubious sources...

[SR71]

The source is the local county council who circulated a missive to that effect. You can speak with them yourself to ascertain the veracity of the information.

I am querying its authenticity myself.

[bmibaby319]

Only one baby at CWL Today G-ODSK

[plaincrazy]

CWL

Definately 2 a/c based at CWL, the other one would have been operating this mornings EDI if it wasnt there.

[mathers_wales_uk]

GTOYM and GODSK both at CWL today

GODSK - WW2001/2002/2003/2004
GTOYM - WW2333 (On ground all day until this evening)

[bmibaby319]

There is a Local Website www.cardiffstathan.*************
The site is really called South Wales Avaition Group. When i was flicking thorugh the CWL Boards i did not see the Belfast int Service.

Why is G-TOYM on the ground wasting time?
Why didn't baby Put it on a Nice Malaga Morning Service?

Both CWL Babys are Flying Billboards

All CWL Babies once were 737-500's

[Tail-take-off]

319s

Just my opinion but I very much doubt DLH will re-equip any part of bmi until they see light at the end of the profit tunnel.

[bhxfirefly]

well all of this is really speculation - until theyhave there meeting on wednesday were gonna be no wiser, working ourselves up over what could be is not gonna help any of us!!! - but as for the post regarding bhx closing i dont think thats the case - the head of cabin services said that both midland bases were performing very strongly.

Also next year theres no alc or agps out of man?

theres a whole can of worms so what will be will be.

[SR71]

Having now spoken to the airport itself, they have confirmed the source of the communique is not them, so the original recipient is obviously unclear about his own sources!

[worldaccording2]

Goodbye Baby

Here comes another round of redundancies just before Christmas again. It seems baby is the easy option for lufty/Mainline to keep running the business down as leases come to an end. The difficult decisions like stopping mainline hemorrhaging close to 200 million well I guess not even German engineering can vorsh sprung technique that one out......

"Dear bmibaby employee



You are kindly invited to attend an extremely important presentation/meeting as detailed below, where bmibaby management will present the business plan for bmibaby for 2010.



Due to the importance of this meeting it would be greatly appreciated if you could prioritise your attendance at one of the following sessions;



Wednesday 4 November 2009 "

[adam12345]

Very Reduced Schedule

Looks like a very reduced schedule tomorrow, maybe something to do with the meeting. Had a look at the flights for tomorrow and not a lot going on.

Birmingham - 5 Departures
Cardiff - 3 Departures
East Midlands - 9 Departures
Manchester - 5 Departures

Maybe its just the trend for the winter schedule? Looks like there will be a few aircraft on the ground tomorrow.

[OltonPete]

Wednesdays in winter

adam12345

BHX is planned for five departures all winter less the holiday periods.

After the first release only eight were planned and a couple of weeks
ago they cut EDI completely on a Wednesday and Glasgow am.

Pete

[OliWW]

At EMA it will go up in December with the addition of Geneva on a Wednesday, I also think Malaga is on a Wednesday as well soon, (not 100% on that). So it will be 10 or 11

[CheekyVisual]

I can't blame LH. Baby could and should have made money bet the muppets at the top that blew it won't been seen offering their resignations though. Just don't know if I can bare listening to 40 minutes of management BS to justify the next stage of the shutdown. "Sorry guys they just won't let us give it a go and x number of you are down the road this year and x number next year, thanks" would suffice. Five minutes and down the pub to drown sorrows and fill in McDonalds application form. (got mine already, wanted to beat the rush !).

Good luck guys and girls it's been nice working with you.

Of course I might have read this all wrong and what they are actually going to anounce is a doubling of the fleet conversion to the 319 and commands all round. Mmmmmm probably not.

Sorry if that all sounds a bit bitter but it is !

[Little Blue]

Fingers crossed for you all from o'er the border.

[bmibaby.com]

I think all of us would like to hope that Lufthansa has had an opportunity to look over the books and see the great deal of potential that bmibaby has, or to see the visit by germanwings managers at Tiny Town some weeks ago as a sign perhaps that the company might be introducing new routes, products or aircraft. The sad truth is that the union's have been consulted with, and there has never been a reason for attending announcements in the past when expansion was announced. bmibaby has a great team of hard-working employees, many in head office and EMA who's history with the company has stretched way back into British Midland, who have worked hard to create a successful low-cost airline. Lack of vision, fight, creativity and funding has gone a long way to let other airlines walk all over what people have been trying to create for some time, and hope if the announcement negatively affects colleagues in whatever function they're working in, that they'll land on their feet with an airline with an open corporate culture and who is committed to growth.

[worldaccording2]

I don't think Lufty have much time for baby, they have much bigger problems with mainline and the black hole their finances are in. It has no fixed assets and it seems the cheapest way of winding it down is to keep letting staff go as the leases run out.

The meeting tomorrow will be confirmation that 2010 Baby fleet will go down to 12 aircraft.

7 based at EMA, that leaves 5 to be distributed between other bases.

1 base closure ( don't know which one, but they like picking on BHX????) to release the 5 aircraft going back to lessors.

Its not going to good news for a lot of people-again!!!!

SMB and NT and all the other cronies at Mainline are sitting pretty with final salary pensions, leaving the rest of the company in **** street.

I knew I should of been a gynecologist, after all i have years of experience working for ****s!!!!

[16024]

I don't think Lufty have much time for baby, they have bigger problems with mainline

Exactly!
Talk about taking their eyes off the ball...
Remember the trouble baby had expanding last time things were good. It was difficult to get a/c and crews. It wasn't even possible to promote internally at the rate required as the training dept was overstretched. Direct entry contract capts, expensive leases... it goes on, and will go on again, unless someone looks a couple of years forwards.
This is true of any airline. Easy and Ryan didn't get where they are by tightening their belts until they couldn't breathe, and battening down the hatches every five minutes. There's nothing supernatural about baby's situation, or the road to recovery.
It's not the ranting of someone who fails to see the accountants' wider picture, or the seriousness of the market downturn, but there is a natural cycle to it all.
For anyone who has seen this all before, remember 1988? 1996? 2004?
2012 anyone?