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Old 20th Jun 2011, 21:37
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As mentioned, this flight will operate with 2 sectors, LHR-ALA-ATQ. Yes AI do operate LHR-ATQ direct, however the likes of 9W, IT, QR etc require 2 or more stops and an A\C change.
My post was not insinuating that they WOULD or even COULD do a 3 sector ATQ. If anything, it was countering that they couldn't but it was inferring that surely another airframe would be required OR the frequency would be unsustainable OR one of the other 330 rotations would have to give. Otherwise bmi's 330s will be spread to thin, one tech/operational/slot delay would carry through the flying programme for days.
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bmi announcement ref ATQ

I am pleased to inform you that today we are announcing a brand new route for bmi, to Amritsar in Northwestern India.

The route will commence on 13 October and flights will operate three times a week, on Monday, Thursday and Saturday from London Heathrow via Almaty in Kazakhstan. Return flights from Amritsar will again be via Almaty and operate on Tuesday, Friday and Sunday. Flights are now on sale.

Flights will be operated on a wide-bodied Airbus A330 aircraft – an aircraft which returns into service for bmi this week after its lease to Turkish Airlines. This newly refurbished aircraft will offer 36 Business and 196 Economy seats.

Business Class customers will benefit from a 60” seat pitch and seat recline of 50 degrees, electronic seat controls, in-seat power, a 15” personal video screen and comfortable noise cancelling headphones. Economy passengers will also benefit from 32” seat pitch with a recline of six degrees and a personal 15” seat back video screen. A wide range of blockbuster films, TV programmes, music and games channels will be offered throughout both cabins on the in-flight entertainment system.

India continues to be a fast growing economy and there is a clear demand for business, leisure and cargo customers to Amritsar and the Punjab region of India.

bmi will be the only airline to offer a service to Amritsar from the UK or Europe. Currently customers for this region of India must change aircraft in Delhi or other points en-route. bmi will therefore provide a convenient schedule for business and leisure passengers, additionally our connections and partner airlines at Heathrow will allow for UK/European and worldwide connection possibilities.






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Old 21st Jun 2011, 12:02
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I am pleased to inform you that today we are announcing a brand new route for bmi, to Amritsar in Northwestern India.

The route will commence on 13 October and flights will operate three times a week, on Monday, Thursday and Saturday from London Heathrow via Almaty in Kazakhstan. Return flights from Amritsar will again be via Almaty and operate on Tuesday, Friday and Sunday. Flights are now on sale.

Flights will be operated on a wide-bodied Airbus A330 aircraft – an aircraft which returns into service for bmi this week after its lease to Turkish Airlines. This newly refurbished aircraft will offer 36 Business and 196 Economy seats.

BD991 LHR1110 ALA2340 - ALA0030 ATQ0305 332 146
BD992 ATQ0430 ALA0750 - ALA0905 LHR1200 332 257

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Old 21st Jun 2011, 15:27
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Unfortunately they were also pleased to announce that the 3 new A321s that bmi had on order will be transferred to DLH and we will keep the 3 older aircraft that were due to go back. Not a positive sign that DLH have any long term interest.
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Old 21st Jun 2011, 21:51
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Best of luck to BD on this route... Amritsar to the uk is known to be a very low yielding route, so hopefully they have the cost base to support it.

bmi will be the only airline to offer a service to Amritsar from the UK or Europe
Not sure about this...

AI 115 ATQ 03:10 LHR 11:30 EQV 1 1234567 12:50 08 Jul 29 Oct

AI 116 LHR 13:40 ATQ 05:50 +1 EQV 1 1234567 11:40 08 Jul 29 Oct

Although how much of a one stop this route is, im not sure... And flying time is more or less the same. BTW - Flying BA / 9W via delhi saves 45 mins vs the BD one stop.
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Old 21st Jun 2011, 22:15
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Unfortunately they were also pleased to announce that the 3 new A321s that bmi had on order will be transferred to DLH and we will keep the 3 older aircraft that were due to go back. Not a positive sign that DLH have any long term interest
Any chance you can tell us from which source did that come from please?

We can also look at this in a positive way, maybe LH are looking to source more a330's to add to the bmi fleet instead of growing its a321 fleet.... We can only hope for the best.
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AI115 and AI116 are both via Delhi on the utterly inappropriate B777-237LR, suspended at the minute but kicks back in during July.

Edit : As Capetonian rightly says below the Indian domestic leg is not on the B77L but the Boeing on the LHR leg is being misused on such a sector length. Bit like those Syrian B747SPs we used to see at Heathrow.

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Old 22nd Jun 2011, 07:51
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The AI115 ops via Delhi with 2:40 on the ground and a change of a/c.
ATQ - DEL 0310-0400 321
DEL - LHR 0640-1130 77L
EFT 12:50

and similar in on the inbound route.
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Old 22nd Jun 2011, 16:44
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Any chance you can tell us from which source did that come from please?
Company memo from flight ops. management to pilots.

maybe LH are looking to source more a330's to add to the bmi fleet instead of growing its a321 fleet.
The tone of the memo was pretty downbeat, more 330s is a pipe dream at the moment, forget it. Things don't look good at all, the future is very uncertain I would say.
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BD991 LHR1110 ALA2340 - ALA0030 ATQ0305 332 146
BD992 ATQ0430 ALA0750 - ALA0905 LHR1200 332 257

Do the crew do this all in one go?! A 5 day ATQ or is it a stopover in ALA on the way then in ATQ then ALA again on way back?

PS agree with an earlier poster, KTM would IMO be a better choice of destination, it is not currently served directly from the UK after the withdrawal of Royal Nepal flights from LGW many moons ago
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Old 8th Jul 2011, 22:40
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DUB-LHR

I didn't believe this one myself but had a look and it's true.

BD are re-introducing an early morning flight DUB-LHR for Winter departing at 6.45. The economy fare is, wait for it.......... EUR123.70 One Way and hoping to fill an A320. Good luck to them.
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Old 8th Jul 2011, 22:46
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Well they did close the DUB base and lay off the (excellent) Irish cabin crew. Gotta pay for the hotel rooms for a night stopping crew
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Old 8th Jul 2011, 22:50
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BMI are taking LH slot at DUB in the mornings. LH are moving DUB - FRA to 5.35 departure.
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ayroplain - for the benefit of the rest of us, what do you think is a fair lead-in price for BD to charge, bearing in mind that they are targetting predominantly business passengers on such a flight, and need to make a profit ?
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Old 8th Jul 2011, 23:00
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The price will have to drop as Aer Lingus first flight of the day for random dates in November is 24,99 all in.
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Old 8th Jul 2011, 23:13
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Is the DUB-LHR market really so overserved, that there is a need to offer lead-in prices of 25 euros on a flight at that time, on an airline that tries to present itself as rather better quality than the cheapest of the LCCs ? The only reason I can guess is to be able to put such a low price on advertisements, allowing only a tiny number of seats to be sold before the price bumps up to something higher.

Yes Ryanair competes, but don't Aer Linugus / bmi have any capacity to set the price in the market, or has FR completely won the war ?
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Old 8th Jul 2011, 23:24
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Don't think FR have won the market but as EI have a 1 million seat sale on that would be the main reason for reduced prices.

EI have more flights between LGW - DUB than FR and they adding more for the winter.

The price bmi are charging is way to high and if it doesn't come down then the early morning flight will be gone.

Its only a trail for the winter as at the monument LH are returning to the normal FRA departure time from end of March and if they do continue next summer I don't think both will get slots at that time of the morning.
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Old 9th Jul 2011, 13:40
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ayroplain - for the benefit of the rest of us, what do you think is a fair lead-in price for BD to charge, bearing in mind that they are targetting predominantly business passengers on such a flight, and need to make a profit
It was a businessman who drew my attention to this "Economy" one way fare and his comment was that there is no possibility whatsoever that anyone in his (reasonably big) organisation would be allowed to take up bmi's 6.45am offer at those prices and neither would I.
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Old 10th Jul 2011, 15:03
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It was a businessman who drew my attention to this "Economy" one way fare and his comment was that there is no possibility whatsoever that anyone in his (reasonably big) organisation would be allowed to take up bmi's 6.45am offer at those prices and neither would I.
If the 6.45 departure is to work fares will have to drop and if they don't bmi will lose passengers. No person in there right mind would pay that for such a short flight to LHR.
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If the 6.45 departure is to work fares will have to drop and if they don't bmi will lose passengers. No person in there right mind would pay that for such a short flight to LHR.
They do every single day of the week......
The issue is that the starter fares are at this level.
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