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Old 2nd Sep 2009, 16:35
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He could rent a telephone box for his farewell do.
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Old 2nd Sep 2009, 17:00
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Looker........a tad harsh, he is a nice guy, out of his depth maybe, but a nice guy
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Old 2nd Sep 2009, 17:50
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Is it true NT has been sent on gardening leave?
That needs confirming pronto. If true could mean....................almost anything
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Old 2nd Sep 2009, 18:05
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Perhaps with the help of his buddy Bishop, he could sell the telephone box back to BT after he'd finished using it, to add to his golden handshake fund

Not sure how you can say nice guy, I can't say I knew the guy but anyone who does a U-turn on an agreement such as the pilots pay deal, deserves my anomosity That was extremely poor management and I am desperately trying to think of examples that warrant praise to counter my statement.

If there is truth in this rumour, I'll drink a toast to his departure. As for running a balance sheet, he didn't do too badly (I'm sure SMB can testify to this) but as for running an airline, he was as useful as one of his 'George Bush T-Shirts for an Iranian'!!!!

Lufthansa, it's time to turn BMI around and to realise the real potential that it has. With the right aircraft and routes, BD can be a success. Keep only the shorthaul routes that are profitable and concentrate on the niche medium/longhaul. With the economics of scale that LH have, significant savings can be made and rewards are easily achievable.

Like the acquistion of BMed, BMI has the potential for being a gift horse, with the right management and resources this could payback huge dividends.
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Old 2nd Sep 2009, 20:25
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With the right aircraft and routes, BD can be a success. Keep only the shorthaul routes that are profitable
Were/are the shorthaul routes profitable? I got a sense that these are so hotly contested and loss making that Bmi changed its focus to longer routes to try to improve profitability? We dont know specifically what routes were profitable or which were not, however, we do know that the airline had frequently made heavy losses and LH financed these?

The shorthaul route network has been chopped and changed so often and the make up of the network is so different than it was in say 1995. Many of the domestic routes are gone, LBA, MME etc and many of the European routes too.

The craziness of using a 195 on a LHR route is amazing.

When we look at bmi at LHR they actually only have a small list of routes ok many with high frequency. Hard to know exactly where BD should have their focus these days.

Many on here say that bmi operating many long haul routes ex London is purely duplication of many markets that LH serve from say FRA. An enlarged bmi with Virgin and the Star Connection has to be the way forward, build a strong brand and dip into the honey pot that is LHR.
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Old 2nd Sep 2009, 21:34
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Originally Posted by EI-BUD
The craziness of using a 195 on a LHR route is amazing.
You mean an ERJ-135, right?
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Old 2nd Sep 2009, 21:39
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Sorry you are correct, yeah meant 145/135! What was I thinking!!!
Thanks for the prompt.

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Old 3rd Sep 2009, 10:02
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With its base at LHR dwindling by the week will LH look to run the whole thing from FRA and revert LHR to line station status ?.
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Old 4th Sep 2009, 08:06
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Originally Posted by sas319
LH investor report (22Jun) showed Spain as a potential development area for BD.
Really? Where does it say that?

I see something on pages 18 and 19 of another briefing on 25 June (below) but even that doesn't explicity say Spain is a growth area for BD.
http://investor-relations.lufthansa....09-06-25-e.pdf
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Old 4th Sep 2009, 09:54
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Page 18 refers to the BA/IB deal and on page 19 the example of MAN-BCN is just to show how the LH group offers multiple connection opportunities. They could have easily used MAN-FCO or CPH-BCN for example instead if they wanted too. Nothing about Spain being a growth area for bmi there
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Old 4th Sep 2009, 16:10
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Latest from bmi:


Unfortunately our services between
London Heathrow and Venice
London Heathrow and Palma
will end on 15 November and 3 November 2009 respectively, and
East Midlands and Cologne
Manchester and Glasgow
will end on 18 September 2009.
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Old 4th Sep 2009, 16:33
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PMI & VCE ending was not the best kept secret. The question is what wii bmi use those slots for? More DLH routes?
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Old 4th Sep 2009, 16:59
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Originally Posted by sas319
LH investor report (22Jun) showed Spain as a potential development area for BD.
Originally Posted by bmi
Unfortunately our services between London Heathrow and Palma will end
...and, right on cue, the last remaining LHR to Spain route is finally canned
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Old 4th Sep 2009, 19:08
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Just a question where is this information from ?

Granted the VCE / PMI being dropped hasn't been the best kept surprise, but never the less i have failed to for the info anyway that backs this up.
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Old 4th Sep 2009, 20:38
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It was a trade email sent today 16:01 signed by Sales & Marketing Director Katherine Gershon all official i'm afraid!

Check out the release if you want information to back it up
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Old 5th Sep 2009, 07:14
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Rumour has it, one fleet is to be withdrawn from LHR - A320/330 ?
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Old 5th Sep 2009, 07:24
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Rumour where?

stormin norman can you add a little more detail this morning?
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Old 5th Sep 2009, 08:28
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A330 & Erj

I was chatting to a mainline Captain in the lounge yesterday, he said this weeks rumour was that the 330's (which are due back to the lease company) are being replaced with LH A300 which are not in use? also that any job cuts and he said he thought there was bound to be some could not take place whilst the ERJ was in LHR and they would be phased out from LHR at the end of the winter 09/10 with all 5 or 6? units gone from LHR by May 2010. He also said that DP appointment was just the start of a major shake in management accross the group
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Old 6th Sep 2009, 09:40
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BA would only be interested in the slots and not the assets.

They need an odd ball fleet and another underfunded pension fund like a hole in the head.
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Old 6th Sep 2009, 11:56
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Another quiet day at the Times news desk?

It's getting rather boring reading the Times on Sunday, next weeks travel scoop
Skyeurope considering bid for loss making bmi airline Yawnnnnnnnn

I think of more interest will be what baby do or don't do about EZY exit from EMA
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