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DollarBill can you tell us what the Greenfield issues are with the pilots?
I've been called a troll here for asking this question already but why the big secret? Surely industrial action means it is a biggie. The pilots have only been on strike twice in 30 years or so they are not the sort to take action willy nilly.
I've been called a troll here for asking this question already but why the big secret? Surely industrial action means it is a biggie. The pilots have only been on strike twice in 30 years or so they are not the sort to take action willy nilly.
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Aer Lingus took everything that Greenfield suggested but gave nothing back as per the greenfield deal pure and simple - a proper airline with pilots who have a mature point of view, enough is enough time to play hardball - good luck to you all.....
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If you take the 79m profit in the latest results add it to the 30m or so loss for last year then its over a 100m swing. About 20-30m will be from staff savings on an annualised basis. The rest is as a result of someone waking up and realising that flying half full flights into the same city in on the East coast of the US is barking mad when you can cut the frequency and combine loads. Setting up LGW without conducting any due diligence and going toe to toe with Easy is lunacy so get the aircraft out of there. And then there is some improvement in yields eg: you paying more to check in bags, buy a coffee etc.
Remember this time last year we were all being told that the company was going to go bust, 139 pilots were going to be sacked is what the company wrote to the Minister in accordance with its legal requirements.
And now the truth is out and we know....The company ain't going to go bust, we were lied to yet again by management, AL has nearly a billion in cash, we don't have enough pilots and are working our ars*s off and we are getting just a little bit annoyed at being fobbed off with various excuses for AL to never implement anything that they agree to in the labour courts.
The ink was hardly dry on Greenfield and our paycuts came through. Recently we were entitled to an annual increment on our salaries. It took 2 months for this to come through. Unfortunately the person in charge of payroll was away on "holiday" when they should have been paid. It took a further couple of payroll runs after they returned from holiday to sort it out. AL for some reason which they won't explain to us cannot organise a non scheduled payroll run. I wonder what they did with the interest on our money??? I can assure you we didn't see any of it.
Just one of many instances that I could tell ya about to highlight the incompetence that we deal with on a daily basis.
Remember this time last year we were all being told that the company was going to go bust, 139 pilots were going to be sacked is what the company wrote to the Minister in accordance with its legal requirements.
And now the truth is out and we know....The company ain't going to go bust, we were lied to yet again by management, AL has nearly a billion in cash, we don't have enough pilots and are working our ars*s off and we are getting just a little bit annoyed at being fobbed off with various excuses for AL to never implement anything that they agree to in the labour courts.
The ink was hardly dry on Greenfield and our paycuts came through. Recently we were entitled to an annual increment on our salaries. It took 2 months for this to come through. Unfortunately the person in charge of payroll was away on "holiday" when they should have been paid. It took a further couple of payroll runs after they returned from holiday to sort it out. AL for some reason which they won't explain to us cannot organise a non scheduled payroll run. I wonder what they did with the interest on our money??? I can assure you we didn't see any of it.
Just one of many instances that I could tell ya about to highlight the incompetence that we deal with on a daily basis.
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Well said MCDU2, and as you know yourself you have only scratched the surface.Time for action i think,from what i can gather the pilot body in AL has carried the company long enough.Especially through the last summer schedule.
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i hear the Aer Lingus base at Gatwick is under severe strain following the announcment by BA to return its 3 x daily AGP service to match that of EI. Rumour is the base or AGP route will be shut in 2011, anyone else hear this? hope its not true i really want LGW-NOC to stay!!
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Delayed and cancelled flights today
Anyone know the reason for delays today of 4/5 hours on the LHR-DUB route plus the cancellation of the last two flights 177 and 179 to DUB?
The evening EI529 CDG-DUB was also cancelled.
The evening EI529 CDG-DUB was also cancelled.
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Full Year Guidance
If you take the 79m profit in the latest results add it to the 30m or so loss for last year then its over a 100m swing. About 20-30m will be from staff savings on an annualised basis. The rest is as a result of someone waking up and realising that flying half full flights into the same city in on the East coast of the US is barking mad when you can cut the frequency and combine loads. Setting up LGW without conducting any due diligence and going toe to toe with Easy is lunacy so get the aircraft out of there. And then there is some improvement in yields eg: you paying more to check in bags, buy a coffee etc.
Remember this time last year we were all being told that the company was going to go bust, 139 pilots were going to be sacked is what the company wrote to the Minister in accordance with its legal requirements.
Remember this time last year we were all being told that the company was going to go bust, 139 pilots were going to be sacked is what the company wrote to the Minister in accordance with its legal requirements.
There is a clear adverse labour efficiency planning variance when compared with what was announced as a standard earlier in the year.
The annualised value of this year's actual cost savings will be approximately €35.6 million - very significant indeed.
Gross cash is now valued at approximately €0.95 Billion. Whilst being exceptionally robust, this is somewhat overinflated presently by a positive cash inflow generated from a S/LB agreement on one A320 during this year. Equally, Aer Lingus has in excess of €105,000 Net Cash on hand per employee.
Full year performance, all else being equal, shoud be operationally profitable. Exceptional items, including the Volcanic Ash crisis cost provision, will once again have an influence on this in determining the net performance for the year. The frontline staff mentioned have given up a huge amount to secure this outcome and into 2011, we need to see a full organisational wide implementation of all proposed cost reductions.
There is at least a 30% chance that the revenue environment for Aer Lingus will be flat or worse in 2011, as domestic demand in Ireland remains severely constrained. Increased operating costs from airport charges increases will also squeeze the overall performance.
The majority of EI's bases outside of DUB/SNN/ORK have never been fully profitable on a constant basis. They have been, operationally profitable. However, when the relevant overheads are apportioned to the bases, some of them are in fact loss making. It would be interesting to see LGW specific data.
Well done to all of the EI staff concerned who have each made difficult individual contributions to turn around the airline's performance.
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Just wondered if anyone from EI can help answer a few questions?
If im travelling from GLA - DUB - JFK on a through ticket, what is the process when I arrive in DUB.
Do I clear U.S customs there? and how long does it take?
If my hand luggage is too large for the RE aircraft GLA-DUB can I pick it up in DUB and and do I need to go through security again. Is the baggage reclaim area still inside the airside zone or outside.?
Any help would be great. Thanks.
If im travelling from GLA - DUB - JFK on a through ticket, what is the process when I arrive in DUB.
Do I clear U.S customs there? and how long does it take?
If my hand luggage is too large for the RE aircraft GLA-DUB can I pick it up in DUB and and do I need to go through security again. Is the baggage reclaim area still inside the airside zone or outside.?
Any help would be great. Thanks.
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Hi, Ive not selected a final date as yet, but will be around the 11march.
Also, just any general information in transitting to the states would be helpful as I may use the route in future.
Also, just any general information in transitting to the states would be helpful as I may use the route in future.
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Transfer at T2
As T2 isn't fully operational yet, no one can fully advise you on the process of transferring, especially with regard to time taken to clear US customs and immigration. But I CAN tell you that transfers within T2 require you to be re-screened. Not sure however if EI Regional flights will use T2. Maybe once EI move their USA operations over you might consider asking again as people will have experienced the transfer process.
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What happens next I wonder? Will it be anyway effective?? The cabin crew work to rule doesn't seem to be.
Aer Lingus pilots to begin work-to-rule - RTÉ News
Aer Lingus pilots to begin work-to-rule - RTÉ News
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@EISNN:
Depends on your point of view. Do the crew really want to disrupt passengers by getting flights cancelled. they could easily do this if they wanted. How about a 'green flu'? EI staff do not want to disrupt pax they want to disrupt the company.
The cabin crew work to rule is aiming to show the company that their exisitng rules are not the problem,but that the inefficient rostering system is. EI claim they have to abolish ALL existing rules and 'produce' a new set. They also claim that the LRC document supports this view (LRC doc says "rewrite black book rules for mutual clarity........this SHALL NOT be a new negotiation process" LRC emphasis not mine)
So if the cabin crew work to rule is not causing flight disruption why does the company need to abolish these 'not effective rules' that help the crew have better quality home time. At the end of the day getting the crew to reach the productivity is the goal. The LRC even allows for this by saying if the productivity target isn't reached in 3-6 months the LRC may advise additional changes to achieve the target. EI are pre-empting any possible LRC decision.
An example of possibilities could be to produce a roster up to the current schedule allows (ie. end of March) Surely a computerised roster could be allowed to compute more then 28 days if instructed to. After all the variables (aircraft/flights/crew) are the same until March 31 2011.
Depends on your point of view. Do the crew really want to disrupt passengers by getting flights cancelled. they could easily do this if they wanted. How about a 'green flu'? EI staff do not want to disrupt pax they want to disrupt the company.
The cabin crew work to rule is aiming to show the company that their exisitng rules are not the problem,but that the inefficient rostering system is. EI claim they have to abolish ALL existing rules and 'produce' a new set. They also claim that the LRC document supports this view (LRC doc says "rewrite black book rules for mutual clarity........this SHALL NOT be a new negotiation process" LRC emphasis not mine)
So if the cabin crew work to rule is not causing flight disruption why does the company need to abolish these 'not effective rules' that help the crew have better quality home time. At the end of the day getting the crew to reach the productivity is the goal. The LRC even allows for this by saying if the productivity target isn't reached in 3-6 months the LRC may advise additional changes to achieve the target. EI are pre-empting any possible LRC decision.
An example of possibilities could be to produce a roster up to the current schedule allows (ie. end of March) Surely a computerised roster could be allowed to compute more then 28 days if instructed to. After all the variables (aircraft/flights/crew) are the same until March 31 2011.
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The IMF are in town. There is likely to be firesale of the Government stake. There will be over 500,000 people unemployed in 2011. €13 Billion has fled the Irish banks in recent months and the system is on the brink of collapse. Most pensions are in trouble and some will be wound up.
Meal breaks and rosters?
Meal breaks and rosters?