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As BFS101 has said, MUC and MXP would come as no surprise, both have struggled pretty much since they started which is a shame as they were new routes for Belfast.
I've always heard that MUC is a strong performer from ORK so I'd be surprised and disappointed to see it go over the winter. Loosing SXF would be equally disappointing.
The rumours about Aer Lingus closing the LGW base have been going around since it was announced so I take them with a big pinch of salt.
As always, there will be cutbacks during the winter with some routes gone for good and others replaced by new routes. I'm sure this winter will be tough and Aer Lingus will be quick to drop any poor performers but we'll just have to wait and see before the details appear. Any idea when EI usually announce winter schedules?
I've always heard that MUC is a strong performer from ORK so I'd be surprised and disappointed to see it go over the winter. Loosing SXF would be equally disappointing.
The rumours about Aer Lingus closing the LGW base have been going around since it was announced so I take them with a big pinch of salt.
As always, there will be cutbacks during the winter with some routes gone for good and others replaced by new routes. I'm sure this winter will be tough and Aer Lingus will be quick to drop any poor performers but we'll just have to wait and see before the details appear. Any idea when EI usually announce winter schedules?
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The rumours about Aer Lingus closing the LGW base have been going around since it was announced so I take them with a big pinch of salt.
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while BFS is probably cutting MUC and MXP... they are keeping AGP and more than likely taking on a new route, such as tenerfife...
i highly doubt anything at LGW will close lol
... hasnt bfs been "closing down" for a year now according to a select few.. lol
i highly doubt anything at LGW will close lol
... hasnt bfs been "closing down" for a year now according to a select few.. lol
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en2r..it's no rumour that EI are short of a/c as otherwise why have they been looking around for up to 3 A320s until the end of Aug? They want them to operate out of DUB so either your DUB schedules are going to be reduced or you will have foreign tails operating on EI flights this summer.
As for Knock being sold out in the week leading up to Easter...not exactly an achievement
As for Knock being sold out in the week leading up to Easter...not exactly an achievement
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Aer Lingus recently took delivery of three A320s, EI-EDS and EI-EDP were originally intended for Iberia but Aer Lingus got their hands on them and last week they took delivery of EI-DVJ which I believe was brought forward in June.
Are these the aircraft they were looking for or are they still searching?
I noticed Knock being sold out on some days last week as well, although Easter has to be taken into account it is still encouraging to see for such a new route.
Are these the aircraft they were looking for or are they still searching?
I noticed Knock being sold out on some days last week as well, although Easter has to be taken into account it is still encouraging to see for such a new route.
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Knock/London Gatwick
When Ryanair and Easyjet operated this route the numbers flying were actually encouraging, however, the load factors were rubbish for the most part given that there was so much over capacity.
However, I do think that the west of Ireland folk will be happy to use Aer Lingus as for so long they have only had Ryanair and Gatwick is attractive as a Gateway airport, so lets hope it works.
However, I do think that the west of Ireland folk will be happy to use Aer Lingus as for so long they have only had Ryanair and Gatwick is attractive as a Gateway airport, so lets hope it works.
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Shamrock350....thanks for the info re the 3 x A320s. It was about 4 weeks ago I knew EI were still approaching airlines but it looks like they have filled the DUB gap that was there.
Still don't think it's much of an achievement to fill flights at Easter even if it is a new route. Now if they're still full mid-week in early May.....
Still don't think it's much of an achievement to fill flights at Easter even if it is a new route. Now if they're still full mid-week in early May.....
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Aer Lingus Gatwick
Does anyone think that Aer Lingus would look at serving Gatwick- City of Derry on a daily basis?
Ryanair cut back Stansted to daily and also serve Luton.
Any thoughts?
I think the brand would do very well there and also be a good way to increase awareness of the brand in Northern Ireland and help the services that operate from BFS?
Ryanair cut back Stansted to daily and also serve Luton.
Any thoughts?
I think the brand would do very well there and also be a good way to increase awareness of the brand in Northern Ireland and help the services that operate from BFS?
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I know CCR was refering to City of Derry to LGW, but regarding a BFS - LGW as stated by flyer55, i'd say this route is already well served by EZY, with 4 flights a day Mon - Fri, and with BE from BHD also 4 flights a day Mon - Fri.
Belfast - London has huge competition and capacity at the minute, and the alleged poor yields on EI to LHR would seem to show how hard it is to get bums on seats. For connecting passengers that require a certain London airport, there is already competition to LHR, LGW, and STN, with only LTN being exclusively EZY. For those who are travelling to London itself and the choice of London airport less important the options are huge. Personally the last thing Belfast needs is more capacity to London, that would be unsustainable in the longer term.
Unrelated but to mention that EI have put on sale TFS from Belfast, 3 times a week, ACE up to 4 times a week, and Munich being kept on for the winter at 3 times a week. Malaga at 4 times per week. Two aircraft are fully utilised with this timetable, so will BFS drop to a 2 aircraft base, and is Rome being pulled for the winter???
Belfast - London has huge competition and capacity at the minute, and the alleged poor yields on EI to LHR would seem to show how hard it is to get bums on seats. For connecting passengers that require a certain London airport, there is already competition to LHR, LGW, and STN, with only LTN being exclusively EZY. For those who are travelling to London itself and the choice of London airport less important the options are huge. Personally the last thing Belfast needs is more capacity to London, that would be unsustainable in the longer term.
Unrelated but to mention that EI have put on sale TFS from Belfast, 3 times a week, ACE up to 4 times a week, and Munich being kept on for the winter at 3 times a week. Malaga at 4 times per week. Two aircraft are fully utilised with this timetable, so will BFS drop to a 2 aircraft base, and is Rome being pulled for the winter???
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BFS101- are they not keep Barcelona on either?
If they are and aswell as Rome, they need more routes to utilise the aircraft, please don't tell me they are sticking with Paris!!!! Mabey some new routes to fill the gaps????
If they are and aswell as Rome, they need more routes to utilise the aircraft, please don't tell me they are sticking with Paris!!!! Mabey some new routes to fill the gaps????
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Belfastmark,
The only routes currently on sale are (weekly except LHR daily):
TFS x 3
ACE x 4
MUC x 3
AGP x 4
LHR x 3
That fully utilises 2 aircraft, Barcelona and Rome not on sale as yet, but here's hoping. As far as I know CDG and AMS are confirmed as pulled. Potentially down to a 2 aircraft base but hope not, hopefully more will go on sale over the next few days.
The only routes currently on sale are (weekly except LHR daily):
TFS x 3
ACE x 4
MUC x 3
AGP x 4
LHR x 3
That fully utilises 2 aircraft, Barcelona and Rome not on sale as yet, but here's hoping. As far as I know CDG and AMS are confirmed as pulled. Potentially down to a 2 aircraft base but hope not, hopefully more will go on sale over the next few days.
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I wouldn't read too much into what's on sale in the Winter timetable at the moment. There's some weird anomalies in it, like ORK-CDG once daily, but no CDG-ORK flights. It's clearly still a work in progress.
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Cheers 840, hopefully...
Strange that rumours are rife that MUC is a very poor performing route, while EI alleged that Rome was successful, but yet could possibly pull Rome and keep Munich?? Just have to wait and see I guess.
Strange that rumours are rife that MUC is a very poor performing route, while EI alleged that Rome was successful, but yet could possibly pull Rome and keep Munich?? Just have to wait and see I guess.
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If BFS does drop to a 2 base aircraft, does this mean the other aircraft could be used to start the next bunch of new routes from LGW. They did say they wanted an 8 plane base at LGW within a year, so one can only assume that more routes will be beginning over the winter? If the other bases are being announced now, such as BFS-TFS, then lets hope news on Gatwick isnt too far away.
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MUC seems to have been loaded if you look at the flexible date option, but when you try to select an individual flight it errors out.
I'd be surprised if they cancelled ORK-MUC. Not so surprised by ORK-SXF as it was never as strong a route and must be getting disproportionately affected by the reduction in numbers travelling between Ireland and Poland.
I'd be surprised if they cancelled ORK-MUC. Not so surprised by ORK-SXF as it was never as strong a route and must be getting disproportionately affected by the reduction in numbers travelling between Ireland and Poland.