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Aer Lingus and the ethics of globalisation.
It seems Tom McGurk has his panties in a bunch over EI's latest attempts at survival.
The really funny thing with squeezed socialists is that they fully demand their right to succeed without wishing to dirty themselves with the consequences of failure. Aer Lingus is bleeding to death. Fact. Rather than reduce capacity and grow profitability, they have chosen to compete with Ryanair on price, but from a vastly higher, union entrenched costbase. There could only ever be one possible outcome from this sort of boardroom recklessness, as I've written before, and its not a happy one.
Romance and longing doesn't pay the bills, Tom. Aer Lingus has one shot at survival. One shot only.
Discuss.
The really funny thing with squeezed socialists is that they fully demand their right to succeed without wishing to dirty themselves with the consequences of failure. Aer Lingus is bleeding to death. Fact. Rather than reduce capacity and grow profitability, they have chosen to compete with Ryanair on price, but from a vastly higher, union entrenched costbase. There could only ever be one possible outcome from this sort of boardroom recklessness, as I've written before, and its not a happy one.
I have written here before that, given we are an island people, plus our history of emigration and so on, Aer Lingus to Irish people was always more than just another company. It was part of the fabric of the emerging independent Irish state. Down the years, we spent our tax in huge volumes to sustain it. It was also the unique linkage that spread across the Irish diaspora, interlacing the weddings, the funerals and the holidays. In ways, too, it symbolised our independence and flew our flag in the world.
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And here he is folks, the one and oooohnly Captain Kremin. . . . or maybe he won't respond to an Aer Lingus thread ( even though he works for them ) only Ryanair matters ( of course the two could be entwined yet )
Shame really, between him & your good self Leo I see the makings of an entertaining " exchange" or two.
Stirring it up ? me ? Nah never, but I do like a larf
Shame really, between him & your good self Leo I see the makings of an entertaining " exchange" or two.
Stirring it up ? me ? Nah never, but I do like a larf
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CPS, old boy! Lovely to see you.
It seems our savant problem child Kremin has been spotted, as recently as this morning, stirring the pooh in the Antipodes. Rats off a sinking ship would be my guess, and I don't mean the Asgard 2. Says he's somewhere called Brisbane.
Bail ó Dhia is Mhuire duit.
It seems our savant problem child Kremin has been spotted, as recently as this morning, stirring the pooh in the Antipodes. Rats off a sinking ship would be my guess, and I don't mean the Asgard 2. Says he's somewhere called Brisbane.
Bail ó Dhia is Mhuire duit.
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Tom McGurk is living in a dream world.
That was then and this is now. To survive Aer Lingus must change. If it doesn't then the final chapter of it's history will be written soon. McGurk's comparsion with the the shipping industry is spurious. His suggestion that American employees would be some kind of cheap labour is absurd. Aer Lingus is full of people who are overpaid and underworked. Any honest Aer Lingus employee will tell you that. The problem is that those are the very people who don't want to leave. Why would they? They still believe they are owed a job.
The unions encourage this kind of thinking apparently oblivious to realities surrounding them.
Aer Lingus will survive I think, because enough people working there live in the real world and know there is no real choice.
It was part of the fabric of the emerging independent Irish state.
The unions encourage this kind of thinking apparently oblivious to realities surrounding them.
Aer Lingus will survive I think, because enough people working there live in the real world and know there is no real choice.
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Dear old Leo surfaces again......any forum any platform spouting off the FR rhetoric, onto EI again now are we, laying off RE for the moment.......have you forgotten the almighty mouthpiece owns 25% of EI.
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29.98% actually.
This is probably wrong, the directors are not terrified, just paralysed.
What sort of Airline has union ringleaders on their boards? Failing ones.
The paralysis that is currently evident at the airline – another round of union consultation is set for this week – is only playing into the hands of Ryanair's Michael O'Leary, who said last week: "They are not going to make any radical change; they are terrified.''
What sort of Airline has union ringleaders on their boards? Failing ones.
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If I was an EI director i'd be paralysed with fear also....imagine the fear of knowing your future MD had dropped 500 million last year on his fuel policy and is in the process of dropping another 100/200 million this year again based on his 'insight' ..not to mention the 100 mil on the aer lingus share price 
what ever happened to that billion euro in the bank Leo....I think we all know
what ever happened to that billion euro in the bank Leo....I think we all know
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leo welcome back with another bileshoot attempt to make your idiotic point of view seem realistic,monday meeting must have been tetchy this week.feel like leaving off some steam.noted your absence from the thread on ryanair forcing pilots onto unpaid leave.you will no doubt hit back at us with comprehensive figures as to how badly ryanair has been hit by the global economic downturn that they have to cancel flights,offload crew and routes.No doubt it is due to the boeing strike,think not.i have always liked tom mcgurks style of journalism and i believe he has a point.if i am not mistaken he is saying to aer lingus.protect your own brand name,one of the most recognisable and famous in the world and do not follow the lead of ryanair,because it is in a word NOT GREAT!keep the bileshoot coming.it is good for a laugh and it will take your mind off other airlines.stress is a killer!!
Aer Lingus selects Rockwell Collins to provide avionics on new Airbus A330's
Press Release about what's being purchased with the new airframes.
JAS
Press Release about what's being purchased with the new airframes.
JAS
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wonderful destination, Sicily.
CTA is quite close to Taormina, and is on the motorway network to the popular spots, unlike the competition, who fly to literally the farthest - away point of the island(nothing new there)
CTA is quite close to Taormina, and is on the motorway network to the popular spots, unlike the competition, who fly to literally the farthest - away point of the island(nothing new there)
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To clarify a point mentioned earlier about emigrants fondness for Aerlingus?? Are you kidding??? Aer Lingus has ripped me off every year to fly home at Christmas and other holiday times I almost feel like I should have shares in the company I've paid so much. As an emigrant I have absolutely no fondness for the company in that sense.
I don't feel like I'm home the minute I step on board, I'm only thankful there hasn't been another strike or delay.
I don't feel like I'm home the minute I step on board, I'm only thankful there hasn't been another strike or delay.
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It was there yesterday but has been taken off today. I think this tends to happen when Aer Lingus start new routes, they appear on the booking engine for a short amount of time presumably just to test it and load all the fares but then get taken away before being officially announced and becoming bookable again.
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No return to LAX; from what I understand, it's definitely been confirmed that it won't be coming back.
However, there are strange reports coming in about Manchester and a co-ordinated move between EI and BD, whereby BD's 332s will move down to LHR and EI will be operating some t/a routes from MAN to the US. Possibly to the cities identified as new cabin crew bases - SFO, ORD and JFK (note the former two are UA hubs and both BD and EI are code-sharers/interliners with UA).
Apparently, all will be revealed tomorrow ...
However, there are strange reports coming in about Manchester and a co-ordinated move between EI and BD, whereby BD's 332s will move down to LHR and EI will be operating some t/a routes from MAN to the US. Possibly to the cities identified as new cabin crew bases - SFO, ORD and JFK (note the former two are UA hubs and both BD and EI are code-sharers/interliners with UA).
Apparently, all will be revealed tomorrow ...