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Iberia announced in the last few weeks that it is to resume flying Madrid to Washington Dulles, isn't this the route that Aer Lingus will operate on behalf of United Airlines? Or is it still going ahead?
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Iberia announced in the last few weeks that it is to resume flying Madrid to Washington Dulles, isn't this the route that Aer Lingus will operate on behalf of United Airlines? Or is it still going ahead?
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The route was moved forward to March 6th and has been taking bookings for that start date for a while now but the Aer Lingus website doesn't seem to be any showing fares at the moment.
Either they've moved the start back to the end of March or it's just aerlingus.com having problems which wouldn't be a surprise.
Either they've moved the start back to the end of March or it's just aerlingus.com having problems which wouldn't be a surprise.
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The Route starts on the 28th of March.
The route was moved forward to March 6th and has been taking bookings for that start date for a while now but the Aer Lingus website doesn't seem to be any showing fares at the moment.
Either they've moved the start back to the end of March or it's just aerlingus.com having problems which wouldn't be a surprise.
Either they've moved the start back to the end of March or it's just aerlingus.com having problems which wouldn't be a surprise.
However, as mentioned it could be a problem with the website (technical problems with the website seem to have become more frequent of late).
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Cannot understand why Aer Lingus have not uttered a word about MOL trying to move into hangar 6, where EI are now working.
If the shoe was on the other foot he would have been to the High Court already.
Looks like EI have signed a 20 year lease, and if MOL wants it they should make him pay handsomely to give that lease up, assuming of course it suits EI to move.
Another example of the large shareholder acting against the best interests of the airline he part owns
I am deeply suspicious of anything MOL says, he has always said all he needs is a big hangar to handle his passengers, now he wants hangar 6. Aircraft maintainence? Not a chance
If the shoe was on the other foot he would have been to the High Court already.
Looks like EI have signed a 20 year lease, and if MOL wants it they should make him pay handsomely to give that lease up, assuming of course it suits EI to move.
Another example of the large shareholder acting against the best interests of the airline he part owns
I am deeply suspicious of anything MOL says, he has always said all he needs is a big hangar to handle his passengers, now he wants hangar 6. Aircraft maintainence? Not a chance
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Perhaps MOL wants Hangar 6 for his own widebodies yet to be ordered?
It is quite bizarre the way this one is being played out all right.
Gets the usual attention from the media of course. Did you see Sharon Ni Bbeolain interviewing Mr O'Leary in last night's 6 One News? Her hair was going skeways - must have been the excitement of the moment!
Last week it was the Cry Baby Fest with George Lee, Deirdre De Burca and now this week we have Mr O'Leary cawshawling over not wanting to talk with the DAA!
Big cry babies!
It is quite bizarre the way this one is being played out all right.
Gets the usual attention from the media of course. Did you see Sharon Ni Bbeolain interviewing Mr O'Leary in last night's 6 One News? Her hair was going skeways - must have been the excitement of the moment!
Last week it was the Cry Baby Fest with George Lee, Deirdre De Burca and now this week we have Mr O'Leary cawshawling over not wanting to talk with the DAA!
Big cry babies!
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"Cannot understand why Aer Lingus have not uttered a word about MOL trying to move into hangar 6, where EI are now working."
I read a statement issued by EI today, where they basically said "no" (or words to that effect); they certainly would not be vacating H6 for FR. What more do they need to say. I don't see that Aer Lingus needs to do anything else on this front.
MO'L has questions to answer over his real intentions. I'm far from convinced about why he absolutely must have H6 (as opposed to any other(s). I don't necessarily buy the low cost terminal line. As far as EI is concerned, however, they have said all they need to say.
I read a statement issued by EI today, where they basically said "no" (or words to that effect); they certainly would not be vacating H6 for FR. What more do they need to say. I don't see that Aer Lingus needs to do anything else on this front.
MO'L has questions to answer over his real intentions. I'm far from convinced about why he absolutely must have H6 (as opposed to any other(s). I don't necessarily buy the low cost terminal line. As far as EI is concerned, however, they have said all they need to say.
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While not wanting to defend Ryanair or O'Leary, do Aer Lingus even need the hangar under their current announced plans? Seems like a waste of money on the part of EI to be renting such a large space and not using it at the moment. If the hangar is only used for A-Checks then surely a two bay hangar would be sufficient for the short range fleet?
The minister was also quoted today as saying that Aer Lingus need the hangar as it's the only wide-body capable hangar at the airport. Have they rendered Hangar 5 inaccessible now? I seem to remember the B747's being accomodated quite happily in there. Are the A330's hangared in Dublin for A-Checks or are they done in Shannon?
The open question in all of this is what is Aer Lingus' long term plan for maintenance of the fleet. Dermot Mannion and his team seemed quite intent on outsourcing with base maintenance going to ST/TAT, A330 engineering going to LHT etc. but Christoph Mueller seems more intent on bringing some of these services in-house. From memory the lease term on the hangar is 20 years. I see the creation of the Aer Lingus (Ireland) Ltd. and the hanager lease as first steps down this road (i.e. hiring the SRT line guys into an Aer Lingus Ltd. subsidiary company). The base maintenance contracts run for 10 years to 2018. Who knows, you may see the checks being accomplished in-house again in the future once the TAT agreement finishes! The worldwide A320 family and A330 fleets are growing and so too will the maintenance requirements of those fleets. Perhaps Chistoph Mueller is keeping some maintenance know how in the company in the event a sound business case could be made for doing in-house and third party work in Dublin?
The minister was also quoted today as saying that Aer Lingus need the hangar as it's the only wide-body capable hangar at the airport. Have they rendered Hangar 5 inaccessible now? I seem to remember the B747's being accomodated quite happily in there. Are the A330's hangared in Dublin for A-Checks or are they done in Shannon?
The open question in all of this is what is Aer Lingus' long term plan for maintenance of the fleet. Dermot Mannion and his team seemed quite intent on outsourcing with base maintenance going to ST/TAT, A330 engineering going to LHT etc. but Christoph Mueller seems more intent on bringing some of these services in-house. From memory the lease term on the hangar is 20 years. I see the creation of the Aer Lingus (Ireland) Ltd. and the hanager lease as first steps down this road (i.e. hiring the SRT line guys into an Aer Lingus Ltd. subsidiary company). The base maintenance contracts run for 10 years to 2018. Who knows, you may see the checks being accomplished in-house again in the future once the TAT agreement finishes! The worldwide A320 family and A330 fleets are growing and so too will the maintenance requirements of those fleets. Perhaps Chistoph Mueller is keeping some maintenance know how in the company in the event a sound business case could be made for doing in-house and third party work in Dublin?
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Aer Lingus plans to move HQ to Hangar 6
Business & Finance magazine is reporting that Aer Lingus is planning to relocate its head office to Hangar 6 at Dublin Airport. This would free up a huge 13 acre site at the heart of airport for redevelopment and would also ensure that Ryanair cannot force its way into hangar 6 and ultimately create a competing low cost terminal. Read all the details here.
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On the airwaves this morning it was reported that Aer Lingus has reiterated its threat to make 1100 staff compulsorily redundant and further reduce the fleet if the current ballot for the latest cost-saving plan ends in a NO vote. They seem to think it will be a NO vote.
If this happens they'll have even less good reason to be in Hangar 6!!
In addition, the papers report that Ryanair chief executive Michael O’Leary, Aer Lingus chief executive Christoph Mueller, DAA chief executive Declan Collier and the chief executive of the IDA, Barry O’Leary, will appear before the Oireachtas Joint Committee on Transport this afternoon to discuss the issue of Hangar Six.
I'd love to be a fly on the wall at that one.
If this happens they'll have even less good reason to be in Hangar 6!!
In addition, the papers report that Ryanair chief executive Michael O’Leary, Aer Lingus chief executive Christoph Mueller, DAA chief executive Declan Collier and the chief executive of the IDA, Barry O’Leary, will appear before the Oireachtas Joint Committee on Transport this afternoon to discuss the issue of Hangar Six.
I'd love to be a fly on the wall at that one.
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If you're particularly interested, you should be able to listen live on the Oireachtas website
Watch & Listen, Houses of the Oireachtas
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840, hats off to you for that link. 
3 hours of incredible, mind-blowing, unmissable entertainment has just finished. I need a drink, or maybe two or three after that - with a case of virtual black stuff on its way to your goodself 
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3 hours of incredible, mind-blowing, unmissable entertainment has just finished. I need a drink, or maybe two or three after that - with a case of virtual black stuff on its way to your goodself .
Does anyone know if there is any plan to operate into LCY once the RE services are up and running. The 72-5's are certified for the approach and I would have though that, if the cost base is right, there was plenty of room to undercut the WX fares.
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How much of the slide can be attributed to consumer fatigue with a round trip airfare which ends up costing more than initially envisaged?
It's just like the 1980's all over again.
Then of course, the only long haul destination isn't in the best of shape either.
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