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The Ryanair STN will impact the Easy operation out of BFS but the greatest impact will be on the bmi LHR. Fortunately, anyone operating international routes will be saved from Ryanair competition due to the short runway at City. I still think that MOL decided on city to challange Aer Lingus and because he couldn“t get anyone at BFS to talk, listen to him. Ultimately they will be at BFS as BHD will not cope, even in the medium term.
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Does anyone know the loads for today's first FR flights to STN, LPL, EMA and PIK?
Oh yeah, one more thing, I'm travelling to LPL with FR next week, but am not entirly certain on their ID policy. In the T+Cs it says one can travel on a driving licence (domestically), but when you go to the Web'N'Go check in, it says a passport is required - so which to go by?
I know it's not a big deal to bring a passport, but I'd much rather just go with my driving licence, for convenience's sake..
Any guidance would be greatly appreciated,
Oh yeah, one more thing, I'm travelling to LPL with FR next week, but am not entirly certain on their ID policy. In the T+Cs it says one can travel on a driving licence (domestically), but when you go to the Web'N'Go check in, it says a passport is required - so which to go by?
I know it's not a big deal to bring a passport, but I'd much rather just go with my driving licence, for convenience's sake..
Any guidance would be greatly appreciated,
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You can use your driving licence if you check in at the desk . If you check in on-line you must quote your passport number and bring your passport with you . Apparently many a person has missed their domestic flight by checking in online with passport number and then only taking their driving licence to the airport !!
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The Ryanair STN will impact the Easy operation out of BFS but the greatest impact will be on the bmi LHR.
This is a very debatable statement.
I suspect that most of the really cost conscious customers have already
defected from BMI and are already flying Easyjet.
Those that have stuck with LHR have done so either because its best located for their destination in London , or they are travelling on business are not paying for their own ticket and want lounge access , Diamond points and on board service or they are connecting at LHR.
The only potential additional defectors from BMI would be those cost conscious travellers who have stuck with BMI even though the fares may sometimes be higher because BHD is better for them than BFS locationwaise.
Given the short distance between BHD and BFS , I don-t think there will be many of these .
I think BMI probably have more to fear from EI , because they are offering an alternative to those wanting to use LHR and if they are cheaper as well , there may be defectors .
Ryanair will be going after the same psgrs as EASYJET so they probably have most to lose. Flybe , to the extent they are lowcost , may also
have more to lose than BMI altho again a significant proportion of their traffic is probably destined for LGW area or connecting rather than Central LON.
This is a very debatable statement.
I suspect that most of the really cost conscious customers have already
defected from BMI and are already flying Easyjet.
Those that have stuck with LHR have done so either because its best located for their destination in London , or they are travelling on business are not paying for their own ticket and want lounge access , Diamond points and on board service or they are connecting at LHR.
The only potential additional defectors from BMI would be those cost conscious travellers who have stuck with BMI even though the fares may sometimes be higher because BHD is better for them than BFS locationwaise.
Given the short distance between BHD and BFS , I don-t think there will be many of these .
I think BMI probably have more to fear from EI , because they are offering an alternative to those wanting to use LHR and if they are cheaper as well , there may be defectors .
Ryanair will be going after the same psgrs as EASYJET so they probably have most to lose. Flybe , to the extent they are lowcost , may also
have more to lose than BMI altho again a significant proportion of their traffic is probably destined for LGW area or connecting rather than Central LON.
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The statistics for the most punctual airline on routes from belfast-london are as follows (from jan-jun)
1. CityJet
2. Air Berlin
3. Bmi
4. Easyjet
5. flybe (no suprise!)
1. CityJet
2. Air Berlin
3. Bmi
4. Easyjet
5. flybe (no suprise!)
At what point are those punctuality stats taken ?
Cityjet (operated by Scot Airways) are without a doubt top for being ready to depart in my experience, always been spot on. But then ATC slot delays (presumably from down at the London City end) seem to get in the way so actual departure from BHD and moreover actual deplaning time at LCY after being vectored on a Grand Tour of Kent can be disappointing.
The roster for the aircraft is nice and relaxed so any knock-on delays are minimised, or indeed eliminated.
Cityjet (operated by Scot Airways) are without a doubt top for being ready to depart in my experience, always been spot on. But then ATC slot delays (presumably from down at the London City end) seem to get in the way so actual departure from BHD and moreover actual deplaning time at LCY after being vectored on a Grand Tour of Kent can be disappointing.
The roster for the aircraft is nice and relaxed so any knock-on delays are minimised, or indeed eliminated.
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Add to that the top "punctual" airlines have far fewer rotations than the other airlines. It all has to be accounted for and put into perspective i say...
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Ryanair loads for today:
STN
FR6122 181
FR6123 33
FR6124 168
FR6125 61
FR6126 74
FR6127 26
FR6128 61
FR6129 60
LPL
FR6142 87
FR6143 61
FR1424 53
FR1425 38
PIK
FR1437 82
FR1438 40
EMA
FR1412 47
FR1413 65
STN
FR6122 181
FR6123 33
FR6124 168
FR6125 61
FR6126 74
FR6127 26
FR6128 61
FR6129 60
LPL
FR6142 87
FR6143 61
FR1424 53
FR1425 38
PIK
FR1437 82
FR1438 40
EMA
FR1412 47
FR1413 65
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LHR Figures are still very good at times:
BD80 63
BD81 145
BD82 110
BD83 96
BD84 84
BD85 123
BD86 110
BD87 126
BD88 125
BD89 101
BD90 91
BD91 101
BD92 111
BD93 79
BD96 111
BD97 35
BD80 63
BD81 145
BD82 110
BD83 96
BD84 84
BD85 123
BD86 110
BD87 126
BD88 125
BD89 101
BD90 91
BD91 101
BD92 111
BD93 79
BD96 111
BD97 35
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Why oh why can the media not get facts correct. The confusion over what can and cannot operate at BHD is absolutely unbelievable. I have read in the past day that FR are to carry 200,000 pa on these routes and 600,000 pa etc etc which is correct. Also 140 passengers permitted outbound yet we are getting 168 reported here. So is it unsafe on a flight with 168 passengers outbound!!!!. No wonder this bhd thing is going on and on between residents/planners and the management because does anybody on this planet know what the regulations/restrictions are!!!! Are games being played here for instance it was announced this week that bhd may extend the runway. Have I been dreaming or something as I thought it was announced in August, 6mths in planning and 6 mths construction and it was going to happen within a year!!!! is the £10million (apparently) to constuct it given them 2nd thoughts!!!!!
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The restriction is 144 passengers INBOUND , there is none for outbound like Derry.
Question I have is how did BHD do so far with the turn-arounds etc.?
Regards
Question I have is how did BHD do so far with the turn-arounds etc.?
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Ryanair, which is due to start flights from City Airport on Tuesday week, is subject to restrictions on the number of passengers it can carry on take-off.
Its modern Boeing 737-800 aircraft, which have 189 seats, will be permitted to carry only 140 passengers on departing flights, but will be allowed to carry a full payload inbound.
From Belfast Telegraph so who is right!!!!!!
Its modern Boeing 737-800 aircraft, which have 189 seats, will be permitted to carry only 140 passengers on departing flights, but will be allowed to carry a full payload inbound.
From Belfast Telegraph so who is right!!!!!!
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Question I have is how did BHD do so far with the turn-arounds etc.?
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Ah yes the media..... always correct in their ways however they've got it mixed up.
Belfast City is restricted to 144 pax inbound.
MeNelty
Cheers for the info on the turn arounds will be seeing you guys on Thursday on my way back to EMA.
Belfast City is restricted to 144 pax inbound.
MeNelty
Cheers for the info on the turn arounds will be seeing you guys on Thursday on my way back to EMA.
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