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Could BA do what SQ have done and launch a couple of flights, maybe twice daily, non-stop from LHR to SYD with the 77L?
They could put a full business and first cabin and the plane would piss it there! Would save a lot of time for transferring biz passengers in HKG, DXB, DOH, SIN, BKK, KUL etc. Time is money!
Before you all shoot me down, would it be feasible? They have 772ERs at the moment so 77L would be a great addition and even if they didn't use them on the long routes everyday they can fit an extra 24,000kg in the cargo hold which would be a massive boost (when the economy recovers) for PVG, PEK, HKG etc.!
I just thought these non-stop routes in conjunction with QF would put them miles ahead of competitors on UK-OZ flights.
I don't think Y passengers would like 20 hours on a plane and it wouldn't help the MTOW limit plus more money for more J and F seats!
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They could put a full business and first cabin and the plane would piss it there! Would save a lot of time for transferring biz passengers in HKG, DXB, DOH, SIN, BKK, KUL etc. Time is money!
Before you all shoot me down, would it be feasible? They have 772ERs at the moment so 77L would be a great addition and even if they didn't use them on the long routes everyday they can fit an extra 24,000kg in the cargo hold which would be a massive boost (when the economy recovers) for PVG, PEK, HKG etc.!
I just thought these non-stop routes in conjunction with QF would put them miles ahead of competitors on UK-OZ flights.
I don't think Y passengers would like 20 hours on a plane and it wouldn't help the MTOW limit plus more money for more J and F seats!
Please comment...
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MUFC Fan, it sounds in principle like a good idea but in a recession, there premium cabin volume has fallen off a cliff do you really think airlines are looking to increase their exposure to risk in this area.
Getting LCY-JFK using A318 would be bad enough to get wrong, but a 777ER all the way to Oz, it's enough to take an airline down within 6 weeks. It may be something both BA/QF will look at in the future but at the moment all airlines are looking to reduce exposure to risk in premium.
Getting LCY-JFK using A318 would be bad enough to get wrong, but a 777ER all the way to Oz, it's enough to take an airline down within 6 weeks. It may be something both BA/QF will look at in the future but at the moment all airlines are looking to reduce exposure to risk in premium.
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Well obviously it would be in the prosperous years. It wouldn't be possible now anyway as they would need to order the aircraft etc. but in 3-4+ years it may become a possibility.
I think the LCY flights, personally, are a master stroke. None of us expected it and I guess 50% at least will be taken up by contracts.
Not every company in the city is experiencing losses, take HSBC for example, in fact many banks are starting to see improving profits. I don't doubt it will take some time for there to be prosperity again but there will be demand for these flights I am sure.
I think the LCY flights, personally, are a master stroke. None of us expected it and I guess 50% at least will be taken up by contracts.
Not every company in the city is experiencing losses, take HSBC for example, in fact many banks are starting to see improving profits. I don't doubt it will take some time for there to be prosperity again but there will be demand for these flights I am sure.
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A bank doesn't have to make a loss to stop travelling. Every company is being prudent, that's why low cost airlines such as easyjet are seeing volumes increase as companies like banks, downtrade on price.
FYI If you go to CWL, you will see One 747 parked up and 1x 777, both parked up as part of a drive to reduce capacity,
FYI If you go to CWL, you will see One 747 parked up and 1x 777, both parked up as part of a drive to reduce capacity,
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would it be feasible?
It's worth remembering that the yields on London-Australia are pretty poor, hence the slow withdrawal of BA from the region. London - NYC is a connection of two world banking cities, London-OZ is a Hell of a lot of low yield leisure traffic without the big bucks down the front end.
There are two B747-400s at CWL in storage ( G-BNLB / C ) with a B777 under post delivery checks with another one due imminently. ( G-YMMR / S )
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Could BA do what SQ have done and launch a couple of flights, maybe twice daily, non-stop from LHR to SYD with the 77L?
Does the B777-200LR ( for that's what he means by 77L ) actually have the useful range to do this with payload
with a B777 under post delivery checks
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BA New Caribbean Routes
BA have announced new services to Montego Bay (re-introduced) and Punta Cana from LGW eff start of winter schedule.
Schedules & fares will be available from ba.com from 22.05 so not sure but imagine that PUJ will be served as an extension of the MBJ flight rather than two seperate services.
Good to see BA extending services out of LGW
Schedules & fares will be available from ba.com from 22.05 so not sure but imagine that PUJ will be served as an extension of the MBJ flight rather than two seperate services.
Good to see BA extending services out of LGW
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BA reports pre-tax losses of £401m
Worse than expected results. Yet another sign of the extent of current financial woes affecting the industry.
At least it can only get better.
BBC NEWS | Business | BA nosedives into massive losses
At least it can only get better.
BBC NEWS | Business | BA nosedives into massive losses
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BA reports pre-tax losses of £401m
BBC NEWS | Business | BA nosedives into massive losses
British Airways has announced the biggest loss since the company was privatised in 1987. BA reported a loss before tax of £401m for the year to 31 March, after seeing its results hit by a weak pound and higher fuel costs.
BA made a revised profit of £922m in the previous year.
Although revenues increased to almost £9bn, BA's fuel bill reached almost £3bn. Chief executive Willie Walsh said he saw "no signs of recovery anywhere".
The results include the impact of the airline's first full year of operations at Heathrow Terminal 5.
"The prolonged nature of the global downturn makes this the harshest trading environment we have ever faced and, with no immediate improvement visible, market conditions remain challenging," Mr Walsh said.
British Airways has announced the biggest loss since the company was privatised in 1987. BA reported a loss before tax of £401m for the year to 31 March, after seeing its results hit by a weak pound and higher fuel costs.
BA made a revised profit of £922m in the previous year.
Although revenues increased to almost £9bn, BA's fuel bill reached almost £3bn. Chief executive Willie Walsh said he saw "no signs of recovery anywhere".
The results include the impact of the airline's first full year of operations at Heathrow Terminal 5.
"The prolonged nature of the global downturn makes this the harshest trading environment we have ever faced and, with no immediate improvement visible, market conditions remain challenging," Mr Walsh said.
