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Old 3rd Aug 2009, 15:43
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Originally Posted by ASFKAP
It used to be all about finding a small regional airport (within 100km of a large population centre or catchment area) with cheaper handling fees than the main airport for the particular area, and establishing a series of routes between there and a series of other small regional airports (within 100km of a large population centre or catchment area) likewise with cheaper handling fees than their respective main airports then pass on the savings to the passengers by way of cheaper fares....

Now it seems to be all about finding a regional airport ANYWHERE that offers them zero handling fees and charges and establishing a series of routes between there and ANY other regional airport ANYWHERE that offers them zero handling fees and charges
ASFKAP, you have been "chronically" critical about using minor regional airports. For example in 2005 you wrote:
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Hi,
Has anybody heard rumours about a possible opening of a Ryanair crew base at Strasbourg?
I've 'heard' of a place called Strasbourg so it can't be there,
are there any former cold war air strips about 50 miles from Strasbourg in a place that no one can pronounce, never mind heard of before?
Contrary to you, I do appreciate the "hidden" potential of many small regional airports. They are important for local communities and they are often pretty close to some valuable tourist attractions. For example, I have nothing against flying to Bergamo instead of Malpensa, the traveler can find as much interesting monuments there as in proper Milan area, with some charms of nature on top of that. Why not see some Lübeck attractions on the way to Hamburg, and so on. I do not see any misconception here.

If only Ryanair tried to use the "dormant" potential of these places providing local people with some connecting fligths... Unfortunately, it's out of question for now, as it seems.
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Old 3rd Aug 2009, 16:07
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eu01 - I compeltely agree with you on visiting the less well known places in Europe - so far this year I've very much enjoyed visiting Agrigento (near Trapani), Tarragona (near Reus) and the Pont du Gard (near Nimes) amongst others. Even much maligned Prestwick allows one to easily and cheaply get to Stirling and visit a much underrated castle.

However, some places really are miles from anywhere remotely interesting - it takes 30 mins on the (not on weekends) bus from Hahn to get to anywhere even remotely interesting and over an hour to get to somewhere of more than minor interest. There really is absolutely nothing of interest in places like Lautzenhausen or Sohren (walking to these villages seemed more interesting at the time than waiting for 3 hours at HHN !)
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Old 3rd Aug 2009, 17:03
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There really is absolutely nothing of interest in places like Lautzenhausen or Sohren
Go to Traben-Trarbach, Bernkastel-Kues or Trier instead. Otherwise, HHN could provide SOME connecting flights (but as above, due to the "puristic" approach of FR it doesn't seem realistic at this time).
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Old 3rd Aug 2009, 17:51
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hi davidjohnson6,

Hahn is in the Hunsruck region which is excellent for cycling or hiking. I found Sohren to be a very pleasant base for a short break (very nice family-run hotel there). As an aside, the coach station adjacent to the terminal at Hahn has an excellent range of connections. I took a short break from MAN with Ryanair for a very low basic fare, and being familiar with the M.O. managed to avoid assorted fines and surcharges, so keeping the price reasonable. No complaints overall.

Cheers, SHED.
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Old 3rd Aug 2009, 18:11
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ASFKAP

Perhaps he hired them whilst there?

MM.
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Old 3rd Aug 2009, 18:17
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Shed - I've spent much (dull) time at Hahn's coach station or in the Lucky Luke bar in Latzenhausen killing time between a coach having arrived and catching a plane out. The point I'm trying to make, is that while places like Trier, Koblenz, the Rhine, Mainz, Heidelberg, Worms, Speyer, etc... can be reached by coach from Hahn, they all seem to involve a s*ddin' long time on the coach, or a coach that goes infrequently, necessitating much time wasting at Hahn.

Stansted may not be next door to London, but it's not exactly far away from some things of interest. Hahn by contrast needs at least 30 mins (and more like an hour or more) on the bus to get anywhere of cultural interest !
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Old 3rd Aug 2009, 18:38
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And yet Ryanair have flown there for quite a few years have they not -
so some people think its ok.

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Old 3rd Aug 2009, 18:47
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I have this vision of a bus station where everyone wonders around waiting for the next bus to arrive,with riot scenes as they all rush to get on one that does arrive,then finally the driver gets the doors closed and zooms off-into the fog which roles along the station windows with the motion of the bus.Leaving the unlucky ones dragging their carry-on baggage behind them waiting for the next one to come.Circling around aimlessly waiting........and then another plane dumps its contents onto the forecourt and leaves.

It could be a film called 'Bus station of the damned'.
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Old 3rd Aug 2009, 19:16
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I was flying on Saturday from Stansted to Faro on the 10:35 Ryanair flight (which was delayed due to extremely slow boarding and baggage!) The desks open were about 6. The queues were getting big even at 7:30AM, one check-in desk required an engineer to fix the baggage conveyor. So for at least 30 minutes it was 5 desks. Although, it wasn't a nightmare - it wasn't as good as usual.

Other desks had the screens saying RYANAIR but no one there...

Personally, I found the problem with Swissport at Gate 88. The inbound flight was disembarking passengers, whilst people were already forming a sort of half moon around the desk waiting to board to Faro. Then only ONE boarding staff was performing the checks on passports and boarding passes. Eventually, everyone got on - but this was the problem.

She called for priority passengers but everyone just went up.

Nothing at Gate 88 (or any gates there) to divide the passengers coming off the aircraft to those waiting to board.

However, the manager at the time at the check-in was dealing with the queues very efficiently and effectively.

I still love FR! But this particular journey wasn't the best! In the end, landing in Faro 1 hour 30 minutes late.
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Old 3rd Aug 2009, 19:23
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At least you wouldnt have got that dreadful ontime fanfare...almost worth the delay
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At least you wouldnt have got that dreadful ontime fanfare...almost worth the delay
How true . Not an hour and a half though, maybe just 15 minutes!!
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Old 3rd Aug 2009, 20:08
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New UK base

My 3 choices would be:

London (North) - Durham Tees Valley
Glasgow (South) - Durham Tees Valley
Amsterdam (North West) - Durham Tees Valley


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Old 3rd Aug 2009, 20:13
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Nothing at Gate 88 (or any gates there) to divide the passengers coming off the aircraft to those waiting to board.
Not an issue, it's a domestic gate so no need to seperate the passengers. You get what you pay for mate.
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Old 3rd Aug 2009, 20:21
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BBC NEWS | UK | Northern Ireland | Foyle and West | Bird strike forces plane to land

Bird strike on a LDY-BHX flight with an unscheduled landing required at DUB.
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Old 4th Aug 2009, 06:39
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It's impossible to operate the 738 commercially out of Southend - just check the declared distances.
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Old 4th Aug 2009, 07:14
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Skipness One Echo Quote:
The reduction in Prestwick flights is simply an adjustment, some flights are now from EDI instead of PIK, but PIK is getting lots of new holiday type flights to replace them.

Nope, routes and numbers are well down. Eight routes dropped, four added as compared to this summer, that is taking into account seasonal reductions as well!
Agreed, I've been trying to book flights between PIK and HHN recently and I've never known known it so difficult to find flights. For various days I tried, more often that not, the booking page tells me no fights are available. Another thing I notice is that now, the flight times are different for different days, which never used to be the case.
I've been using FR on this route almost since it opened, and it's never been as bad as this. Either there's been a huge jump in bookings, or there are substantially fewer seats available.
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Old 4th Aug 2009, 08:15
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New route

Stockholm Skavsta - Oslo Rygge [2 x daily - big win for Rygge]

Correct me if I'm wrong but they tried Skavsta to Torp before. But indeed, Rygge is probably better positioned than Torp.

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Old 4th Aug 2009, 08:16
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Problems brewing at LPL with Servisair wanting to cut 23 jobs despite Ryanair announcing new flights???,I hear a strike ballot has taken place over this,its not a case of people being millitant,its a case of apron staff doing more work since their transfer from LPL airport for no extra pay and none asked for but they (Servisair) want to "boost" profits.
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Unfortunately Strikes and Liverpool go together like fish and chips.
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We'll have less of those comments thank you very much!
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