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I don't think Jersey is problem cos of a short runway. Aer Lingus operate flights from ORK and DUB to Jersey on A320's with no problems and no passenger number restrictions. So I can't imagine that FR would have any problems either.
I don't think Jersey is problem cos of a short runway. Aer Lingus operate flights from ORK and DUB to Jersey on A320's with no problems and no passenger number restrictions. So I can't imagine that FR would have any problems either.
BA reporting a loss of £148m makes Ryanairs
performance seem good.
Or do others have a different reading of this?
performance seem good.
Or do others have a different reading of this?
BA is a long haul operator who abandoned short haul apart from feeder routes to its LH services and relied on premium passengers mostly paid for business to make its money.......decent strategy when economy is booming. They are operating an inflexible model though with working practices from another era that take a while to change, not a criticism but just my reading of the situation.
Probably their biggest mistake was not turning GO into the LC to serve the European market even if it bled the SH business as that could have kept them in the game.
At the moment its a constant retreat back to Fortress which will utimately get challenged and painful.
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There is, of course, a rather large well equipped RAF base about to lose its residents to Brize Norton - Bristol East/Swindon International coming soon?
Dedicated airspace already in place. Sitting right under an airway. 2 nice long runways. Hangars. etc etc. neatly placed close to M4 . Decent catchment area within 30 miles.
Just a thought. I'm sure MOL will be leafing through the airfield guides.
Dedicated airspace already in place. Sitting right under an airway. 2 nice long runways. Hangars. etc etc. neatly placed close to M4 . Decent catchment area within 30 miles.
Just a thought. I'm sure MOL will be leafing through the airfield guides.
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Skipness
Probably the first rule of business - pay your way to
make a profit - all else means nothing.
Irrespective of niche markets - making a profit is the name
of the game - ask any business person !!
racedo
No matter how many ways you can 'skin a cat' -
I bet M+S would like the Primark profit figures.
MM
Probably the first rule of business - pay your way to
make a profit - all else means nothing.
Irrespective of niche markets - making a profit is the name
of the game - ask any business person !!
racedo
No matter how many ways you can 'skin a cat' -
I bet M+S would like the Primark profit figures.
MM
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New Ryanair Base - UK
As mentioned in a previous post the obvious gap in the UK market at the moment is the North East of England. Three poss airports 1, NCL, 2 LBA and 3 DTV. Cant see it been NCL as they have two locos already based there in the form of Jet 2 and Easyjet and I am not sure they would come up with the financial package. Leeds/Bradford has Jet 2 with a wide spread of routes and Company HQ at LBA, again not sure they would come up with the deal they would make the airport attractive to FR.
My moneys on DTV, they are desperate for a new opertor since loosing flyglobespand and before that BMI Baby. Just look at the departures board to see how services have slumped, sometimes 5 flights a day, I am sure they would give FR whatever they wanted to get them in. Knowing FR I would imagine that DTV would quickly be marketed as NCL South.
My moneys on DTV, they are desperate for a new opertor since loosing flyglobespand and before that BMI Baby. Just look at the departures board to see how services have slumped, sometimes 5 flights a day, I am sure they would give FR whatever they wanted to get them in. Knowing FR I would imagine that DTV would quickly be marketed as NCL South.
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I can't see FR at MME.
I can't see anyone at Teesside to be honest! FR already axed DUB and already have Gerona and Alicante from Teesside whilst NCL retains DUB (even against EI over winter) and also Gerona
NCL is probably too expensive for FR to expand from and I'd guess they aren't interested in Teesside or they'd have done something a long long time ago
I can't see anyone at Teesside to be honest! FR already axed DUB and already have Gerona and Alicante from Teesside whilst NCL retains DUB (even against EI over winter) and also Gerona
NCL is probably too expensive for FR to expand from and I'd guess they aren't interested in Teesside or they'd have done something a long long time ago
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My moneys on LGW and MAN as the two they are looking at. Ryanair have expanded services in the last year at both. Plus LGW has the added bonus for Ryanair that its an Aer Lingus hub. I think with BAA selling both STN & LGW it wouldnt be a suprise if they played one off against the other and stick with who ever has the best deal.
The other airports they already operate to which are not bases are ABZ, NCL, MME, LBA, DSA & NQY. All of which have seen a significant decrease in flights recently, and therefore would suggest a lack of interest in expansion (or basing an aircraft there). MME defenatly not...the loads on the existing routes are not great.
But anything can happen with Ryan. Bare in mind this year we have heard about newspaper articles relating to MLA, CTA, BRI, BDS, TSF to name a few off the top of my head, and still nothing! It will all depend on the deal at the airport, but I wouldnt hold my breath for a new UK base
GJP
The other airports they already operate to which are not bases are ABZ, NCL, MME, LBA, DSA & NQY. All of which have seen a significant decrease in flights recently, and therefore would suggest a lack of interest in expansion (or basing an aircraft there). MME defenatly not...the loads on the existing routes are not great.
But anything can happen with Ryan. Bare in mind this year we have heard about newspaper articles relating to MLA, CTA, BRI, BDS, TSF to name a few off the top of my head, and still nothing! It will all depend on the deal at the airport, but I wouldnt hold my breath for a new UK base
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A base of 'up to 3 aircraft' at a UK airport would not make much sense at Gatwick or Manchester as it would leave Ryanair a small bit-player at either. If it happens at all, it's more likely to be a smaller airport desperate enough to offer a very good deal.
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LBA would seem a logical place to set up a small base, however FR have said that costs at LBA are too high and have said that expansion is not on the cards, yet load factors have been good and FR seem happy with their operation there. Jet2 are certainly there too but it demonstates that the customers are there and want to fly from LBA if possible. The catchment area is good and can draw in customers from both the DTV and DSA regions. On the downside though is the problem of major terminal works getting started. Nevertheless both the airport and FR are keen to expand so maybe a deal will be realised.
I know it's great fun trying to figure out what Ryanair might or might not do depending on what they said in a press release (not always known for their reliability !) and coming up with reasons to justify one's argument...... but it does seem just a tad speculative in nature.
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My money is on Newcastle, plenty of potential there. I would say Manchester as a second option. I pray for Humberside, but that ain't gonna happen, and no way 3 aircraft!
Regards
Mike
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Mike
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There is alot of talk by ryanair Cabin Crew of Southend getting some
flights before the end of the year, Now I dont know if a base is on
the cards or if they are talking about a few routes from other bases.
Maybe MOL and Mr Stobbart have been in talks we will have to wait
and see how true it all is...
flights before the end of the year, Now I dont know if a base is on
the cards or if they are talking about a few routes from other bases.
Maybe MOL and Mr Stobbart have been in talks we will have to wait
and see how true it all is...
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$1.6 billion finance for 55 new aircraft
These aircraft will need to go somewhere - but does anyone know how many aircraft FR will dispose of?
WP
Ryanair press release:-
Ryanair Announces $1.6Bn Aircraft Financing Agreement
Ryanair, the world’s favourite airline today (31 July) announced that it has awarded mandates to a syndicate of banks for approximately $1.6bn of financing for 55 aircraft delivering between November 2009 and October 2010. The syndicate of banks is comprised of BNP Paribas, Calyon, and Sumitomo Mitsui Banking Corporation. The banks have been mandated to act as joint arrangers for Ryanair’s US Ex-Im Bank Euro dominated export credit facility. Calyon have underwritten 25 aircraft and BNP Paribas and SMBC have each underwritten 15 aircraft.
Commenting on this financing, CFO Howard Millar said:
“Ryanair is pleased to announce the agreement for approximately $1.6bn of underwritten funding for 55 aircraft to be delivered between November 2009 and October 2010 with our partners BNP Paribas, Calyon and SMBC. It is testimony to the financial strength of Ryanair and the standing of our partners BNP Paribas, Calyon and SMBC that we have been able to complete a facility of this size in the current challenging financial markets. The securing of this facility will enable Ryanair to continue to grow its business and bring more competition, choice, and lower fares to consumers in Europe”.
Commenting on this financing, Eric Eugène, Global Head of Transportation Group BNP Paribas, José Abramovici, Global Head of Aviation Group & Rail Finance Calyon and Craig Macdonald, Head of Aircraft Finance SMBC, collectively said:
“The Banks were most pleased to jointly support the financing of 55 B737-800 aircraft for one of the leading European carriers. Ryanair has once again proven to be cost efficient not only in its operations, its aircraft purchasing, but also in negotiating the terms and conditions of its jumbo 55 aircraft financing in an unprecedented period of scarce liquidity from the aviation banking universe”.
WP
Ryanair press release:-
Ryanair Announces $1.6Bn Aircraft Financing Agreement
FOR 55 NEW AIRCRAFT DELIVERIES
Ryanair, the world’s favourite airline today (31 July) announced that it has awarded mandates to a syndicate of banks for approximately $1.6bn of financing for 55 aircraft delivering between November 2009 and October 2010. The syndicate of banks is comprised of BNP Paribas, Calyon, and Sumitomo Mitsui Banking Corporation. The banks have been mandated to act as joint arrangers for Ryanair’s US Ex-Im Bank Euro dominated export credit facility. Calyon have underwritten 25 aircraft and BNP Paribas and SMBC have each underwritten 15 aircraft.
Commenting on this financing, CFO Howard Millar said:
“Ryanair is pleased to announce the agreement for approximately $1.6bn of underwritten funding for 55 aircraft to be delivered between November 2009 and October 2010 with our partners BNP Paribas, Calyon and SMBC. It is testimony to the financial strength of Ryanair and the standing of our partners BNP Paribas, Calyon and SMBC that we have been able to complete a facility of this size in the current challenging financial markets. The securing of this facility will enable Ryanair to continue to grow its business and bring more competition, choice, and lower fares to consumers in Europe”.
Commenting on this financing, Eric Eugène, Global Head of Transportation Group BNP Paribas, José Abramovici, Global Head of Aviation Group & Rail Finance Calyon and Craig Macdonald, Head of Aircraft Finance SMBC, collectively said:
“The Banks were most pleased to jointly support the financing of 55 B737-800 aircraft for one of the leading European carriers. Ryanair has once again proven to be cost efficient not only in its operations, its aircraft purchasing, but also in negotiating the terms and conditions of its jumbo 55 aircraft financing in an unprecedented period of scarce liquidity from the aviation banking universe”.