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How very sad that the only postings about Luton in over two weeks concern the age-old issue of LBC vs. LLAO, and a rather ill-tempered exchange between two PPRuNe contributors.
There doesn't seem to be any sign of Silverjet moving to the south stands as predicted here unless I missed the move. In fact the south stands seem to be empty for most of the time since they reopened. Will Ryanair grab their chance to base a few more aircraft at LTN while they can seeing that they are not best pleased with Stansted?
What about the Wizz rumour that they wanted to base more aircraft at LTN? Surely they can now if they wished? This might be the last opportunity to base more aircraft at LTN for several years to come.
Whats going to happen to Harrods old terminal that fronts the south stands? I see that Stansted are going to build a visitors centre with great views over the runway, now thats a thought.
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Six years in local politics is an 'age'!
Nice to hear that AENA might be bidding for the car parks concession up for grabs inside 12 months. The 'real' Buster might have to learn another language...Hola! This might actually show a degree of commitment for one of the concessionaires (or mates rates)?
3 miles apart...ha ha ha!
Never mind, Buster likes to jest!
No news, is comforting! After this coming summer, to have 3 resident airlines will be the backbone of survival in a constricting business. Monarch, easyJet and Britannia all are based and as such, will re-trench. Whilst oil is $100 a barrel, the days of cheap travel are over.....Now where did I hear that before...1973?
Anyway, come March 12th 2009, fuel burn into and from Luton will be less and delays mostly eradicated, or have I been smoking the potted plants in the corner of my pen again!
Nice to hear that AENA might be bidding for the car parks concession up for grabs inside 12 months. The 'real' Buster might have to learn another language...Hola! This might actually show a degree of commitment for one of the concessionaires (or mates rates)?
3 miles apart...ha ha ha!
Never mind, Buster likes to jest!
No news, is comforting! After this coming summer, to have 3 resident airlines will be the backbone of survival in a constricting business. Monarch, easyJet and Britannia all are based and as such, will re-trench. Whilst oil is $100 a barrel, the days of cheap travel are over.....Now where did I hear that before...1973?
Anyway, come March 12th 2009, fuel burn into and from Luton will be less and delays mostly eradicated, or have I been smoking the potted plants in the corner of my pen again!
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...or have I been smoking the potted plants in the corner of my pen again!
As for Tim Jeans complaining about the cost of parking 'dead' aircraft at LTN, like the Town Hall neddies, he's rather out-of-date because LTN isn't any longer a quiet backwater that doubles as an aeroplane park. I mean, he presumably wouldn't consider parking such aircraft at LGW or STN, so why LTN? If he's looking for somewhere with the space to put them, there's always Manston...
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"CAP493" Monarch does park aircraft at LGW on a regular basis in the winter months due to low flying programmes in the winter.
The problem Monarch has with parking is LTN is a main maintenance base for Monarch with 3 hangars. Sometimes aircraft "C" checks overrun and so an aircraft may have to be parked outside until its slot in the hangar is available.
This happens with 3rd party aircraft that MAEL (Monarch Aircraft Engineering Ltd) carry out maintenance on, which Monarch foots the parking bill if the hangar slot is not available.
Now it would be no problem for Monarch if it shuts down its MAEL operation and make the couple of hundred employees redundant and transfer its work overseas. I am sure Luton and surrounding areas could do with more people on the dole and the all the shops losing trade. MAEL adds a fair number of extra contractors in the winter which helps the local areas.
Yes l know it is a balancing job LTN airport has with its lack of parking space, so you can see it is not straight forward.
Airlines are all ready getting flack from the greens and media for flying a/c empty, so when Mon have to ferry a/c to MAN to save on parking fees and ferry back when the hangar slot is available, who is going to be at fault?
The problem Monarch has with parking is LTN is a main maintenance base for Monarch with 3 hangars. Sometimes aircraft "C" checks overrun and so an aircraft may have to be parked outside until its slot in the hangar is available.
This happens with 3rd party aircraft that MAEL (Monarch Aircraft Engineering Ltd) carry out maintenance on, which Monarch foots the parking bill if the hangar slot is not available.
Now it would be no problem for Monarch if it shuts down its MAEL operation and make the couple of hundred employees redundant and transfer its work overseas. I am sure Luton and surrounding areas could do with more people on the dole and the all the shops losing trade. MAEL adds a fair number of extra contractors in the winter which helps the local areas.
Yes l know it is a balancing job LTN airport has with its lack of parking space, so you can see it is not straight forward.
Airlines are all ready getting flack from the greens and media for flying a/c empty, so when Mon have to ferry a/c to MAN to save on parking fees and ferry back when the hangar slot is available, who is going to be at fault?
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If he's looking for somewhere with the space to put them, there's always Manston...
Jeans said Monarch was looking at other airports to use as a fifth base when it takes delivery of another A321 in August
will be as successful as the bases in Aberdeen, Blackpool, Malaga and Newquay 
But a further press release states 'Monarch is setting its sights on BA'
so perhaps a move to T5 is on the cards. 
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I see there are new plans for Luton Airport Parkway at http://www.napierpark.com/pdf/public.pdf The plans also include a new 5000 space multi story airport car park on a different part of the site.
View of the additional proposed station building on the north side of the tracks oposite the existing station
View of the additional proposed station building on the north side of the tracks oposite the existing station
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Presumably they will be able to build it without tower cranes . . .
No one ever considers the cranes . . . . .
Edited to add: Actually, I am quite impressed with their website and will go along to one of their roadshows. It would certainly smarten up a dreary bit of Luton. Not sure I would want to live their though.
No one ever considers the cranes . . . . .
Edited to add: Actually, I am quite impressed with their website and will go along to one of their roadshows. It would certainly smarten up a dreary bit of Luton. Not sure I would want to live their though.
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Looks like a nice site for a relocated Kenilworth Road? What happened to the 'Super Duper Casino' planned for Napier? Parkway was 'done on the cheap' so anything actually representing a piece of quality would be gratefully accepted!
As for parking up loss making jets (aircraft on the ground ain't making money), how about Lasham? They sell more than palatable honey in the Garden Centre next door!
As for parking up loss making jets (aircraft on the ground ain't making money), how about Lasham? They sell more than palatable honey in the Garden Centre next door!
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Boutique Airport
http://www.uk-airport-news.info/luto...ews-060408.htm
Luton Airport based all business class airline Silverjet insists passengers booking flights with it will not suffer the same baggage delays as travellers passing through Heathrow Airport. The airline, which flies from Luton to Dubai and New York, says demand for its services have increased amid ongoing teething troubles at Heathrow's new Terminal 5.
Silverjet CEO Lawrence Hunt said: ‘The problems at Heathrow are one of the main reasons we chose Luton Airport to base the Silverjet operation. It is the least congested of all London airports, it's not BAA operated and we have been able to work with Luton Airport to introduce our own dedicated baggage handlers, resulting in Silverjet not having lost one bag checked-in since we launched flights 15 months ago.’
Mr Hunt added that interest in lower profile ‘boutique' airports such as Luton is rising, with passengers keen to travel stress-free. He said: ‘At Silverjet, we know that there is a rapidly expanding segment of travellers in Dubai who expect more of their airlines. Fewer people are willing to tolerate the stress of using London's major airports, which is why we are using the boutique airport model to create a better overall experience for our passengers.’
Luton Airport based all business class airline Silverjet insists passengers booking flights with it will not suffer the same baggage delays as travellers passing through Heathrow Airport. The airline, which flies from Luton to Dubai and New York, says demand for its services have increased amid ongoing teething troubles at Heathrow's new Terminal 5.
Silverjet CEO Lawrence Hunt said: ‘The problems at Heathrow are one of the main reasons we chose Luton Airport to base the Silverjet operation. It is the least congested of all London airports, it's not BAA operated and we have been able to work with Luton Airport to introduce our own dedicated baggage handlers, resulting in Silverjet not having lost one bag checked-in since we launched flights 15 months ago.’
Mr Hunt added that interest in lower profile ‘boutique' airports such as Luton is rising, with passengers keen to travel stress-free. He said: ‘At Silverjet, we know that there is a rapidly expanding segment of travellers in Dubai who expect more of their airlines. Fewer people are willing to tolerate the stress of using London's major airports, which is why we are using the boutique airport model to create a better overall experience for our passengers.’
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An agreement was reached last week between Silverjet and Luton Airport with the effect that the airline would operate from the South Stands as of Monday 7 April, freeing up stands 47 and 48 for use by other airlines.
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Just checked both Collins Concise and Oxford for definition of "boutique". Neither define it to mean 'regional'.
However, both define boutique as meaning a small shop, esp. those selling clothes. Have SIL (and LLAO) stumbled upon the real way to make money?
That said it could be a very reasonable analogy; boutiques are, after all, usually overpriced and offer little by way of choice!
However, both define boutique as meaning a small shop, esp. those selling clothes. Have SIL (and LLAO) stumbled upon the real way to make money?
That said it could be a very reasonable analogy; boutiques are, after all, usually overpriced and offer little by way of choice!
I love these grammar and wordsmithing ones
Seems a tad unfair ... I would have imported the meaning of small, niche and selling a generally high quality and exclusive product.
Regional ? for somebody serving two places 2 or 3,000 miles away in diametrically opposed directions .. don't think so.
Price .. I won't (because I can't) comment on.
Although Beauchamp Place or WAGS Boutique comes to mind.
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Regional ? for somebody serving two places 2 or 3,000 miles away in diametrically opposed directions .. don't think so.
Price .. I won't (because I can't) comment on.
Although Beauchamp Place or WAGS Boutique comes to mind.
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Healthy figures indeed Powerjet1 even considering that Easter occurred during March. I see that our “friends” at Stansted had a slight decrease in their March figures which is not good news for them.
Just noted that Sky Europe have announced a third daily Bratislava service from 30 June and increasing frequencies on their routes to Poprad and Kosice.
I would have thought that the management at Luton are quite happy at the moment to keep things ticking along because most people agree that there is not going to be much more expansion in the near future due to the economic situation. You have only got to look at what is happening to the aviation industry in the United States with several airline closures in recent weeks.
Just noted that Sky Europe have announced a third daily Bratislava service from 30 June and increasing frequencies on their routes to Poprad and Kosice.
I would have thought that the management at Luton are quite happy at the moment to keep things ticking along because most people agree that there is not going to be much more expansion in the near future due to the economic situation. You have only got to look at what is happening to the aviation industry in the United States with several airline closures in recent weeks.
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The war of words with Ryanair and easyJet with BAA Intensifies!
Looks like they are both withholding payments and prepared to go through the courts.... I wonder if this can go in LTN's favour?... 
http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/news....=gen-en-150408
http://www.easyjet.co.uk/EN/News/gat..._withheld.html
Probably not, but wishful thinking.
Maybe the chance of picking up the odd route that would have been destined for LGW or STN.
http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/news....=gen-en-150408
http://www.easyjet.co.uk/EN/News/gat..._withheld.html
Probably not, but wishful thinking.
Maybe the chance of picking up the odd route that would have been destined for LGW or STN.
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Wheelchair passenger
I have to collect my mother this evening, and it is some years since she used the place. I have just checked to see where I can meet a pax who will emerge from the terminal in a wheelchair ... to be told that I cannot meet at the Drop Off without being fined, clamped, not passing go and spending a week having to polish the boots of the head car park attendant.
It says that I must wait for her in the short term park? Last time I was there, it was a rough gravel-like surface and wheeled suitcases had a hard time, leave alone a wheelchair. Further, how can I direct her wheelchair pusher to where I might be??
Dropping her off looks like being a problem too, as there is no means of getting the wheelchair operative out to the drop off zone, before the car is vapourised.
All assistance appreciated.
It says that I must wait for her in the short term park? Last time I was there, it was a rough gravel-like surface and wheeled suitcases had a hard time, leave alone a wheelchair. Further, how can I direct her wheelchair pusher to where I might be??
Dropping her off looks like being a problem too, as there is no means of getting the wheelchair operative out to the drop off zone, before the car is vapourised.
All assistance appreciated.