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Old 6th Jun 2012, 08:11
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I see The FA's "Team England" are heading out of the airport this afternoon.

Any further info? Where and when? I assume British Airways and Stand 62 are being used.
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Old 6th Jun 2012, 11:08
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They usually depart from the South stands and Ocean Sky.They have been using Titan recently.

No doubt when they win the Euros BA will get in on the act and fly them back into Heathrow!
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Old 6th Jun 2012, 11:59
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england football team

I think you will find it is the ´´luxury´´ Titan (ZAP) B757 being used. BA are not interested any more apparently - too much trouble old boy positioning in to Luton etc!
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Old 6th Jun 2012, 13:18
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This is interesting:

Luton Airport owners and operators agree expansion plans merger - News - The Comet

Is the little war over between the council & operator, 19 years at least with the agreement now?
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Old 6th Jun 2012, 15:08
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pabely, I wished that story had been submitted sooner rather than later! As very recently I purchased a well known airport magazine and subsequently wrote to the Editor, pointing out inaccracies on the article about Luton Airport.

It has since transpired that the article was in fact correct and that the LLAOL have agreed to LLAL proposals for full lengh taxiways, muilti storey car park and new stands served by a new pier.

As stated previous, I always prefered LLAL proposals because it was real investment and not just cosmetics.

Well, lets hope the planing application goes through and the airport reaches its true potential.
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Old 6th Jun 2012, 15:36
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Hopefully exciting times if all gets approved.
More jobs, better experience for passengers and a realisation of Luton's full potential. Hopefully the infrastructure upgrade of roads around Luton will go through was well which will attract more businesses non-airport related as well.
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Old 7th Jun 2012, 15:16
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Grrr

BRILLIANT NEWS!

At last a long-term commitment to see Luton flourish!
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Old 7th Jun 2012, 15:22
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At the expense of .......?? (There's usually a loser somewhere!)

Or is this a case of 'everyone wins'?

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Old 7th Jun 2012, 16:42
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At the expense of Ladacan (or whatever they are called now) hopefully.
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Old 7th Jun 2012, 17:07
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Don't shout or you might wake them up !!!
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Old 7th Jun 2012, 19:31
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Good move by the council to put forward their own plans. Without those plans the operator would have done nothing.
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Old 7th Jun 2012, 20:10
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Grrr

I guess with the Spanish economy in the POOOP, raising funds might be an issue?
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Old 7th Jun 2012, 20:22
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Buster -

As it's a UK infrastructure project, which will earn its return in £££, I would expect it to be financed in the UK. There are financial instruments available (such as securitisation) that will guarantee the finance repayments out of the revenues earned. I would expect the debt to remain with the airport itself rather than its Spanish owners.

Of course, if the euro meltdown happens before finance is in place and being drawn-down, all bets will be off.
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Old 7th Jun 2012, 20:29
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The demand for any kind of securitised bond issue has fallen rather dramatically since 2008 - the whole concept becamse a bit of a dirty word when Bear Stearns and Lehman blew up. Any bank would have a challenge now and for the next few years persuading insurers and pension funds to invest in a securitised bond

Furthermore, securitisation sometimes puts quite stringent rules around the issuing company so as to persuade investors that there won't be any surprises. These stringent rules tend to stifle change or innovation - one is essentially remortgaging the airport in return for a big pile of cash upfront. In cases like this where the owner of the airport and the company paid to manage the airport are different, some conflict of interest issues may arise over the future of the airport.

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Old 7th Jun 2012, 20:29
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DJ -

I'm pretty sure all forms of financing have become more difficult since late 2008, but I would expect a lender to be looking for some kind of linkage guarantee of repayment such as securitisation.
They will also charge lots of fees to arrange anything complex
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Old 13th Jun 2012, 20:48
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Signature have submitted 2 planning applications. Application one is to knock down hangar 102 and 63 and build a new FBO on their existing plot but without the hangars. Signature will also be handing back stands 16 and 17 to the airport

http://www.eplan.luton.gov.uk/planne...-31-1_01_1.PDF

Application two for the cargo area is the demolition of existing structures and construction of replacement hangar together with provision of associated apronage and car parking and replacement cargo centre compound. Relocation of the existing cargo compound area and cargo aircraft stands along with alterations to existing Gate 9 security access.

That application has no plans yet on the councils website

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Old 14th Jun 2012, 05:38
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The link to the 59 page PDF file in the last post does not work overnight or early morning as the council switch off their application website during these times.


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Old 14th Jun 2012, 08:39
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So:
The construction of the new FBO building cannot commence until the construction and completion of the new hangar building (subject to a separate planning application). Once this hangar has been built, aircraft can be stored within it. The aircraft currently in hangarage on the existing FBO site will be relocated to the new hangar and the existing hangars (63 and 102) will be decommissioned and demolished. Some temporary structural propping may be required to retain the existing operational FBO building following demolition of the two hangars. This will be confirmed through more detailed surveys prior to demolition. The new FBO building and forecourt will then be constructed.
SFS’s operation will then decant from the old FBO to the new to allow the demolition of the existing facility and the completion of minor works to the airfi eld apron, including demolition of the watch tower.

Thus I assume Cargo moves first, then new Hangage for SFS (under seperate building application) then the new FBO facility is built.

If this all goes ahead and with the Ocean Sky move, the airport will re-gain 5 leased stands?
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Old 15th Jun 2012, 14:54
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MAY PASSENGER FIGURES

A total of 879.689 paassengers used the airport in May up 2.2 per cent on May 2010. Rolling 12 month total 9,580,033 up 5.3 per cent. The Heinekin Rugby Final must have helped the figures somewhat I would have thought.
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Old 18th Jun 2012, 19:20
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Grrr

3 FBOs all reasonably co-located assuming planning approval.

So who will fill the 'soon to be vacated' stands? I wonder with the increase in charges at Gatwick for smaller airliners (like Adria) will help?

Anything worth pilfering at the White Elephant now?
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