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Looking at a delay there. Commencing 2012 for finish 2014. Other projects including new ATC Tower to go ahead soon. Times are tough but the programme seems to be rolling on. It's the staff taking the brunt at the moment.
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BHX -Runway Extension
In your last post you say that the Runway Extension will commence 2012 now, will BHX have the funding in place for it to proceed, as Paul Kehoe keeps ranting on about not been able to afford it.I do hope that extension work commences asap as BHX needs it.
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I cannot see enough long haul routes will start from BHX before 2015 to justify the extension. If you divide the millions in cost by the thousands of extra pax than it does not make sence yet. You just would not do it for just one or two extra sectors a day. The big question is what demand will exist in 2020?
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BHX runway extension
Before you Brummies put a spade in the ground, make sure you really have a market. MAN has a 3000m and a 3200m runway but has struggled to grow/retain long hauls. We thought we were doing OK until our long-haulers started saying "Sorry, we made a mistake, we thought you were London. Bye!"
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Not quite, more like London Airways says we have to move as they don`t like anywhere other than Heathow.
Times are tough but will get better and with the prospect of the A380 from September
good times will return but not yet.
Ian B
Times are tough but will get better and with the prospect of the A380 from September
good times will return but not yet.
Ian B
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The funding is there once the rules for funding can be sorted. I believe the bit we can't afford or don't want to afford, is the Highway work. As they said, we are not in the business of building roads. Having said that there is no rush with aviation where it is at the moment. The case for it to be an alternative to Heathrows extra runway is getting stronger with the rise of the high speed rail link.
At the moment there is no reason for it not to go ahead. But, as we all know, a week is a long time in aviation now.
At the moment there is no reason for it not to go ahead. But, as we all know, a week is a long time in aviation now.
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Ryanair
Major time changes in their summer 2010 schedule.
Schedule now streamlined but about 50% of routes have needed
time changes. Schedule is now four based with a couple of spare
slots. One Dublin flight on Monday, Thursday and Saturday is now
BHX based aircraft, Weeze has become BHX based and all Faro
flights are away based.
This leaves the number of based aircraft the same as 2009 but
less flights due to the Canaries routes using up more sector time
and less away based flights.
At present destinations missing in summer 2010 from 2009 are: -
Billund
Bologna
Hahn
Olbia
Trapani
Pisa
Poitiers
Marseille
Skavsta
Torp
Perpignan
Shannon
New are Faro & Ibiza, both existing routes.
Pete
Schedule now streamlined but about 50% of routes have needed
time changes. Schedule is now four based with a couple of spare
slots. One Dublin flight on Monday, Thursday and Saturday is now
BHX based aircraft, Weeze has become BHX based and all Faro
flights are away based.
This leaves the number of based aircraft the same as 2009 but
less flights due to the Canaries routes using up more sector time
and less away based flights.
At present destinations missing in summer 2010 from 2009 are: -
Billund
Bologna
Hahn
Olbia
Trapani
Pisa
Poitiers
Marseille
Skavsta
Torp
Perpignan
Shannon
New are Faro & Ibiza, both existing routes.
Pete
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Interesting that all the FR routes missing from BHX this summer compared to last are those that were solely FR operated (you could perhaps except Hahn as it serves the Frankfurt area) yet most of the routes they still have from BHX are on those where they compete with another carrier.........so seemingly they can't make routes work from BHX when they have a monopoly??? Yet they appear to manage to do so at other airports?? And are happy to fight routes out at BHX with others rather than carve their own market share?? Answers on a postcard........ 
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Aer Lingus/KLM/Lufthansa
Aer Lingus
Despite some rumours it appears BHX has survived the threat of ATR's on
the Dublin, which means quite a large capacity increase for summer 2010
with an extra daily service in the week and Sunday.
Quite surprised that Cork remains a 320, as I could have seen that as
twice daily ATR but that could come next winter.
KLM
Slight upgrade reported on the KL1421/2 during Feb/March with the
190 replacing the F70.
Lufthansa
The Munich this summer reverts to an all CR9 operation matching
the Dusseldorf, both three daily in the week.
Added to the Saturday PIA returning as a 772 and keeping some
773 flights on the other three days, dare I say some slight green
shoots amongst the gloom.
Mahan should also be four weekly soon as well.
Pete
Despite some rumours it appears BHX has survived the threat of ATR's on
the Dublin, which means quite a large capacity increase for summer 2010
with an extra daily service in the week and Sunday.
Quite surprised that Cork remains a 320, as I could have seen that as
twice daily ATR but that could come next winter.
KLM
Slight upgrade reported on the KL1421/2 during Feb/March with the
190 replacing the F70.
Lufthansa
The Munich this summer reverts to an all CR9 operation matching
the Dusseldorf, both three daily in the week.
Added to the Saturday PIA returning as a 772 and keeping some
773 flights on the other three days, dare I say some slight green
shoots amongst the gloom.
Mahan should also be four weekly soon as well.
Pete
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monarch summer 2010
Was trying to check on the no of monarch aircraft based at BHX for the summer, with Goldtrail flights all withdrawn from BHX and that MONARCH due to operate some flights.
Have checked on tour operator details and mon sch flights and on most days only find 3 aircraft at BHX.
regards
stuart
Have checked on tour operator details and mon sch flights and on most days only find 3 aircraft at BHX.
regards
stuart
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As it stands there should be 4 based aircraft for Summer 2010 as follows:
Monday
1 - Faro, Tenerife
2 - Alicante, Mahon, Corfu
3 - Corfu, Las Palmas
4 - Malaga, Dalaman
Tuesday
1 - Faro, Mahon
2 - Alicante, Arrecife
3 - Malaga, Tenerife
4 - Heraklion, Heraklion
Wednesday
1 - Faro, Fuerteventura
2 - Alicante, Larnaca
3 - Malaga, Tenerife
4 - Paphos, Rhodes
Thursday
1 - Faro, Tenerife
2 - Alicante, Dalaman
3 - Palma, Arrecife, Ibiza
4 - Malaga, Almeria, Zante
Friday
1 - Faro, Palma, Heraklion
2 - Alicante, Larnaca
3 - Malaga, Tenerife
4 - Mahon, Mahon, Ibiza
Saturday
1 - Palma, Arrecife, Rhodes
2 - Faro, Dalaman
3 - Malaga, Las Palmas
4 - Alicante, Fuerteventura
Sunday
1 - Ibiza, Malaga, Tenerife
2 - Faro, Larnaca
3 - Alicante, Palma
4 -Faro, Larnaca
Monday
1 - Faro, Tenerife
2 - Alicante, Mahon, Corfu
3 - Corfu, Las Palmas
4 - Malaga, Dalaman
Tuesday
1 - Faro, Mahon
2 - Alicante, Arrecife
3 - Malaga, Tenerife
4 - Heraklion, Heraklion
Wednesday
1 - Faro, Fuerteventura
2 - Alicante, Larnaca
3 - Malaga, Tenerife
4 - Paphos, Rhodes
Thursday
1 - Faro, Tenerife
2 - Alicante, Dalaman
3 - Palma, Arrecife, Ibiza
4 - Malaga, Almeria, Zante
Friday
1 - Faro, Palma, Heraklion
2 - Alicante, Larnaca
3 - Malaga, Tenerife
4 - Mahon, Mahon, Ibiza
Saturday
1 - Palma, Arrecife, Rhodes
2 - Faro, Dalaman
3 - Malaga, Las Palmas
4 - Alicante, Fuerteventura
Sunday
1 - Ibiza, Malaga, Tenerife
2 - Faro, Larnaca
3 - Alicante, Palma
4 -Faro, Larnaca
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Monarch
stuart-travel
As sam1993 as pointed out there is a very busy 4 aircraft schedule
especially once July is in.
Even before that the based 4 are fairly busy with the short-season
routes limited to some IT (RHO x 2, CFU x 1 and I think one Tue HER).
There have been cuts with Murcia gone, Palma 4 weekly from 8 and
Almeria down to just once weekly. I assume this is part due to the
weak pound (hence DLM) and reduced airport fees at FUE, ACE & LPA.
Even without the Goldtrail flights I thought that the 5th based
was still a possibility but caution has prevailed, which is understandable.
Pete
As sam1993 as pointed out there is a very busy 4 aircraft schedule
especially once July is in.
Even before that the based 4 are fairly busy with the short-season
routes limited to some IT (RHO x 2, CFU x 1 and I think one Tue HER).
There have been cuts with Murcia gone, Palma 4 weekly from 8 and
Almeria down to just once weekly. I assume this is part due to the
weak pound (hence DLM) and reduced airport fees at FUE, ACE & LPA.
Even without the Goldtrail flights I thought that the 5th based
was still a possibility but caution has prevailed, which is understandable.
Pete
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Monarch
I have just been checking some flights prices to Larnaca on Monarch from Bhx or Man i fell of my chair the want £31.98 for 20 kg luggage and on checking they are charging different prices from all four airports and different charges to each destination what are they up to
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Doing what most airlines now do and charging for each constituent part of the flight/journey. Nowadays you need to wait until the very end of the booking process until you know the real comparison cost between various airlines as each one charges slightly differnetly for each thing. Apparently it's what the customer wants!!
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booking process
Apparently, the longer the booking process and the more add ons, the less likely the customer will cancel and start again elsewhere.
Sounds a bit counter intuitive, but I guess the more trouble you've gone to to arrange a trip, the less likely you are to want to start over again with the competition, especially if you don't know what the final cost will be on the next website.
I'm not sure this really is what we want, we are merely being told that it is by the marketeers.
Sounds a bit counter intuitive, but I guess the more trouble you've gone to to arrange a trip, the less likely you are to want to start over again with the competition, especially if you don't know what the final cost will be on the next website.
I'm not sure this really is what we want, we are merely being told that it is by the marketeers.
