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BHX-DBV operators - previous years
I was involved in a discussion over Christmas about holidays and a member of family said they travelled BHX to DBV a few years ago. Now Flybe started in 2007 but they are adamant they didn't travel Flybe, but it was a prop aircraft. Has anyone any ideas as to which airline this would have been?
I am not usually that interested but this has intrigued me so now I have to get an answer
I am not usually that interested but this has intrigued me so now I have to get an answer
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Dubrovnik
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Not aware of any prop flights to Dubrovnik from BHX but Croation
have done a short season most years to either Split or Dubrovnik but these
are/were 319/320's.
Of course Norwich had Eastern flights on the Saab to Croatia so
possibly if they flew from Norwich.
Not even aware of any ad-hocs from BHX as props to Dubrovnik
but could be wrong.
Pete
Not aware of any prop flights to Dubrovnik from BHX but Croation
have done a short season most years to either Split or Dubrovnik but these
are/were 319/320's.
Of course Norwich had Eastern flights on the Saab to Croatia so
possibly if they flew from Norwich.
Not even aware of any ad-hocs from BHX as props to Dubrovnik
but could be wrong.
Pete
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Diversions
After the frustrations of the 12 hour closure came another batch of inbound diversions of amazing variety.
Used the train for work today and on the way home saw the Air Tahiti
A343 landing, which was a Brize Norton diversion (Ascension), there were also two Virgin 747's parked up and a Mexicana 762 (2 x TOM 763 diverts aswell).
Also the 4th Emirates of the day has just landed, this included two Gatwick diverts as well as BHX's own.
They even knicked one of the Gatwick diverts to operate last nights
cancelled EK38 (The inbound EK37 had previously diverted away).
About another 30 inbound diversions today from Gatwick, Stansted,
London City, Luton, Bristol & East Mids.
All seems to have gone fairly well although the Dublin snow closure
has meant some EI cancellations making T1 look busy when I was there.
Pete
Used the train for work today and on the way home saw the Air Tahiti
A343 landing, which was a Brize Norton diversion (Ascension), there were also two Virgin 747's parked up and a Mexicana 762 (2 x TOM 763 diverts aswell).
Also the 4th Emirates of the day has just landed, this included two Gatwick diverts as well as BHX's own.
They even knicked one of the Gatwick diverts to operate last nights
cancelled EK38 (The inbound EK37 had previously diverted away).
About another 30 inbound diversions today from Gatwick, Stansted,
London City, Luton, Bristol & East Mids.
All seems to have gone fairly well although the Dublin snow closure
has meant some EI cancellations making T1 look busy when I was there.
Pete
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I think a large "pat on the back" is in order for the Airfield ops staff who worked hard through Tue/Wed to reopen the airfield and all the Handling agents staff who did their best turning the diversions round and get the many disgruntled pax on their merry way.
Well done.
Well done.
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Well Done BHX
I was stuck at BHX in all the snow and ice disruption on Tuesday and have nothing but praise for all the staff I dealt with on what was a very busy and frustrating day for all, they were brilliant. And a big thanks to all those outside on the apron braving the arctic weather especially those working tirelessly to keep the runway open. These are the people as a passenger you never meet but without whom there would have been no flight at all My flight in the end had a 3 hour delay, no mean feat in such challenging conditions, at least we got away! I know others weren't so lucky as the weather got much worse later on.
My flight in the end had a 3 hour delay, no mean feat in such challenging conditions, at least we got away! I know others weren't so lucky as the weather got much worse later on.
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Snow
Gayfriendly,
A very comforting post which I'm sure will be appreciated. As a former handling agent employee I amongst many others have experienced the wrath and downright unpleasantness of some passengers who obviously thought we were some sort of supreme beings able to control the weather at the drop of a hat!
A very comforting post which I'm sure will be appreciated. As a former handling agent employee I amongst many others have experienced the wrath and downright unpleasantness of some passengers who obviously thought we were some sort of supreme beings able to control the weather at the drop of a hat!
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Yes it`s like the people who insist in going out in the car to get to work get half and have to abandon the car and then blame the authorities who can`t get through for abandoned cars
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Diversions
Other than dealing with its own passengers BHX has turned away very
few diverts and the flow has not stopped.
After the heavies on Thursday a quieter day yesterday but still diverts
from Southampton & Leeds.
Even more of a surprise is now, as AA92 ORD-DUB is about to land, I
assume Manchester still not accepting diverts? Contienental to Dublin has
chosen Belfast and Turkish Stansted.
I don't remember too many if any Dublin diversions in recent times. Mind you looking at the number of planned cancellations this month by "home" airlines anything else is a boost.
Pete
few diverts and the flow has not stopped.
After the heavies on Thursday a quieter day yesterday but still diverts
from Southampton & Leeds.
Even more of a surprise is now, as AA92 ORD-DUB is about to land, I
assume Manchester still not accepting diverts? Contienental to Dublin has
chosen Belfast and Turkish Stansted.
I don't remember too many if any Dublin diversions in recent times. Mind you looking at the number of planned cancellations this month by "home" airlines anything else is a boost.
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Extra Flights 10Jan
Due to the snow TCX plan to operate TCX47L / TCX87k through BHX instead of LGW. In from BGI and out to CUN A330-200.
I also believe BA have being making enquiries about how many the airport can handle in the morning.
Could be a busy day for diverts tomorrow.
I also believe BA have being making enquiries about how many the airport can handle in the morning.
Could be a busy day for diverts tomorrow.
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DIVS
MAN wont be taking any diverts, so its over to you chaps,
looking at the TAFs LGW / LHR
Snow and blowing snow in 25 knot winds I think they will struggle in the morning !
looking at the TAFs LGW / LHR
Snow and blowing snow in 25 knot winds I think they will struggle in the morning !
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AA 757
Departed BHX around 11.30 and just about to land in Dublin,
which I assume is explained by the post from dionysius.
Not quite the reminder BHX would want to give to AA.
These things happen I suppose but I can't believe AA will be
impressed. How will payment work? Will AA say he is the money
for the 20T and thanks for extra we didn't order?
Lets be honest it is not like ordering say one DVD online and then
receiving two, as it is easy enough to send the other one back, not
easy to take back 20T's of fuel, which also seems to have caused
an operational issue.
Assuming that the fuel company got it wrong and not anybody else.
No doubt there are some experts out there to explain how all this
would pan out.
Pete
which I assume is explained by the post from dionysius.
Not quite the reminder BHX would want to give to AA.
These things happen I suppose but I can't believe AA will be
impressed. How will payment work? Will AA say he is the money
for the 20T and thanks for extra we didn't order?
Lets be honest it is not like ordering say one DVD online and then
receiving two, as it is easy enough to send the other one back, not
easy to take back 20T's of fuel, which also seems to have caused
an operational issue.
Assuming that the fuel company got it wrong and not anybody else.
No doubt there are some experts out there to explain how all this
would pan out.
Pete
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Ryanair Summer 2010
More cutbacks from the original release although some changes
were inevitable as the schedule did not flow.
Their response to BMI Baby pulling off Prague at present is to
cut frequencies rather than increase.
Gone has the Thursday rotation which operated last summer
until early October.
Derry will not return to a daily service as first released and is
now showing Mo/We/Fr/Su, which is the current schedule.
Friday Faro has moved to Thursday with a Faro based aircraft.
It seems to be changing daily and I assume to stay at four based.
Pete
were inevitable as the schedule did not flow.
Their response to BMI Baby pulling off Prague at present is to
cut frequencies rather than increase.
Gone has the Thursday rotation which operated last summer
until early October.
Derry will not return to a daily service as first released and is
now showing Mo/We/Fr/Su, which is the current schedule.
Friday Faro has moved to Thursday with a Faro based aircraft.
It seems to be changing daily and I assume to stay at four based.
Pete
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December 2009 pax
A real bad month this one.
Source of the figures: CAA
547511 down 8.3%
2009: 9093787 down 5%.
More misery - Summer 2010 sees more revision to the schedules with
Ryanair cutting Reus from 5 weekly to 3, Krakow from 4 to 3 and
Katowice from 4 to 2 weekly.
I have not gone through the whole schedule yet but added to cuts
to PRG and LDY it is not looking very good.
Pete
Source of the figures: CAA
547511 down 8.3%
2009: 9093787 down 5%.
More misery - Summer 2010 sees more revision to the schedules with
Ryanair cutting Reus from 5 weekly to 3, Krakow from 4 to 3 and
Katowice from 4 to 2 weekly.
I have not gone through the whole schedule yet but added to cuts
to PRG and LDY it is not looking very good.
Pete
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Pete. It's just going to be more of the same for the rest of the year. No signs of any growth anywhere. Maybe a bit from Monarch later but not a lot....Tough times for the next 12 months at least. So, don't expect too much......Thanks for all the figures. Appreciated.
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BMI Baby to close BHX-GLA
call100
I can believe it as everytime I check a booking engine I find
a flight cut.
BMI Baby GLA ends 28/01/2010 and I presume a reduction to
the three based as stated on the Baby thread.
GLA was not unexpected, just a little bit earlier than I thought.
I had also hoped BMI Regional would take it on but nothing to
suggest that this will happen.
Still another change to come and it could be the end of another
double daily such as EDI or BFS. The former has been rumoured
although there is room in the summer schedule for once daily.
Ryanair Weeze at the weekend for summer has been chopped
and Girona is no longer bookable but I think it is just changing
days from the usual summer schedule of Tu/Th/Sa to Mo/We/Fr
and Sun.
Some good news from the December figures with DUS/FRA/MUC
HAM/HAJ/CDG/ZRH/DXB all up.
I will post the individual route analysis in a few days.
Pete
I can believe it as everytime I check a booking engine I find
a flight cut.
BMI Baby GLA ends 28/01/2010 and I presume a reduction to
the three based as stated on the Baby thread.
GLA was not unexpected, just a little bit earlier than I thought.
I had also hoped BMI Regional would take it on but nothing to
suggest that this will happen.
Still another change to come and it could be the end of another
double daily such as EDI or BFS. The former has been rumoured
although there is room in the summer schedule for once daily.
Ryanair Weeze at the weekend for summer has been chopped
and Girona is no longer bookable but I think it is just changing
days from the usual summer schedule of Tu/Th/Sa to Mo/We/Fr
and Sun.
Some good news from the December figures with DUS/FRA/MUC
HAM/HAJ/CDG/ZRH/DXB all up.
I will post the individual route analysis in a few days.
Pete
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GLA
Very odd as picking up some flights bookable in March and July but
earlier nothing in Feb & June.
Baby's site is a nightmare for me can anyone clarify it is a temporary
suspension or they just not updated their booking engine completely.
Pete
earlier nothing in Feb & June.
Baby's site is a nightmare for me can anyone clarify it is a temporary
suspension or they just not updated their booking engine completely.
Pete