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Definitely non-ops Sunday/Wednesday/Thursday this week, usual
explanation given at this time of year is a little thing called Thanksgiving.
I know today is the actual day but the last year or so the number of cancellations have been about 2 or 3 rather than just the actual day.
Whether this is the correct reason for Sunday, I don't know.
Last year I heard reasons for cancellations were a mix of Thanksgiving
and the aircraft was required for extra domestics but others said it was
to cover for 757's being fitted with AVOD in economy.
However the 757 re-fit has long finished and I believe all 41 are done.
Pete
Definitely non-ops Sunday/Wednesday/Thursday this week, usual
explanation given at this time of year is a little thing called Thanksgiving.
I know today is the actual day but the last year or so the number of cancellations have been about 2 or 3 rather than just the actual day.
Whether this is the correct reason for Sunday, I don't know.
Last year I heard reasons for cancellations were a mix of Thanksgiving
and the aircraft was required for extra domestics but others said it was
to cover for 757's being fitted with AVOD in economy.
However the 757 re-fit has long finished and I believe all 41 are done.
Pete
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BHX-OPO is back!
As reported on the Ryanair thread Oporto is now bookable again
from 29/3/10 - 29/10/10.
BHX based aircraft same days as this summer Monday and Friday
departing BHX at 17.40 back at 23.05.
This just leaves two spare slots on a Friday for the four based
aircraft without even considering if the LPA/ACE/TFS services are
extended into the summer service.
potash
Probably need to see the November figures for FUE before getting
a better picture. The few days the ZB & FR operated in October
the load factor was 71% and that included the first returns which
were probably less than half full.
Mahan Air
744's seem to be confirmed for the festive period and possiblty a 4th
weekly flight in the New Year. Not so good for photographers as the
times change to evening to avoid the Amritsar fog apparently, which
of course Air India also used to do.
Pete
from 29/3/10 - 29/10/10.
BHX based aircraft same days as this summer Monday and Friday
departing BHX at 17.40 back at 23.05.
This just leaves two spare slots on a Friday for the four based
aircraft without even considering if the LPA/ACE/TFS services are
extended into the summer service.
potash
Probably need to see the November figures for FUE before getting
a better picture. The few days the ZB & FR operated in October
the load factor was 71% and that included the first returns which
were probably less than half full.
Mahan Air
744's seem to be confirmed for the festive period and possiblty a 4th
weekly flight in the New Year. Not so good for photographers as the
times change to evening to avoid the Amritsar fog apparently, which
of course Air India also used to do.
Pete
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http://www.canarias7.es/articulo.cfm?id=150147
The Irish airline Ryanair will return to operate in Fuerteventura as of the month of March,
The Irish airline Ryanair will return to operate in Fuerteventura as of the month of March,
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Summer 10
So it looks as though FR and BE schedules are finally firming up......nothing new from BE and the loss of SPU, DBV and TLS: As for FR, not as bad as it seemed a few weeks ago but getting more doubtful by the day that MRS; OLB; TPS; BLL; PGF, TRF and PIS are to return, although with FR things change so quickly you never know. This leaves BHX with 24 FR routes (not including Canaries flights, are these continuing in the summer?) compared to EDI with 38; BRS 37 and EMA 34.
So thats a loss at present of ten routes compared to this summer from these carriers. OK so they must have been very marginal yield wise but its such a pity with BHX that when an airline drops a route, the void is rarely filled with another.
Feeling quite introspective (must be that end of the year is nigh feeling coming on), I decided to work out what other routes are lying in the BHX route graveyard, since 2003 in addition to the above I make it: LIS; MAD; BOD; BSL; TRN; VCE; FCO; BGY; VIE; ATH; WAW; SZZ; KBP; HEL; LJU; RTM; EIN and TXL and for long haul DEL; ATQ; YYZ, PHL and TAS. Thats quite some list! I wonder if any of them will ever return
So thats a loss at present of ten routes compared to this summer from these carriers. OK so they must have been very marginal yield wise but its such a pity with BHX that when an airline drops a route, the void is rarely filled with another.
Feeling quite introspective (must be that end of the year is nigh feeling coming on), I decided to work out what other routes are lying in the BHX route graveyard, since 2003 in addition to the above I make it: LIS; MAD; BOD; BSL; TRN; VCE; FCO; BGY; VIE; ATH; WAW; SZZ; KBP; HEL; LJU; RTM; EIN and TXL and for long haul DEL; ATQ; YYZ, PHL and TAS. Thats quite some list! I wonder if any of them will ever return
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Don't understand why someone won't give Swiss a run for their money on the Zurich flight. Load on that Fokker 100 I reckon is 85% plus whenever I take it (about 20 sectors this year), and it's not cheap....
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Hurrah no trekking to LPL or EMA in order to get to DBV in June, iīll raise a G&T to that!
PS I didnīt post with the intention of being morose, itīs just been a slow day........
PS I didnīt post with the intention of being morose, itīs just been a slow day........
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ZRH
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You are right about the fares and it is interesting to see easyjet
having or going to have a go from Manchester as Swiss have
even better loads than BHX.
BHX averages out about around 70% in any given month but
suffered in September and October when the lunchtime was
dropped until the start of the winter season.
Good news re DBV and TLS both fared reasonably well but
with Holiday Optains going I thought the former might not
have returned.
Pete
You are right about the fares and it is interesting to see easyjet
having or going to have a go from Manchester as Swiss have
even better loads than BHX.
BHX averages out about around 70% in any given month but
suffered in September and October when the lunchtime was
dropped until the start of the winter season.
Good news re DBV and TLS both fared reasonably well but
with Holiday Optains going I thought the former might not
have returned.
Pete
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Do bear in mind that most of the Swiss passengers are connecting onto other Swiss flights at ZRH. Anyone else attempting to go head to head with Swiss will need to ensure that there is enough point to point traffic to justify the extra service.
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Only a couple of years ago, LX indicated that only a third of their MAN pax were transferring but were aiming to boost that. I presume that BHX may the same way, but it does depend on what LH wants in terms of using which hub for the transfer passenger i.e. may try to get more through FRA & MUC with bigger connecting ability.
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Any chance for GVA year-round ?
Being a frequent user of EMA for the GVA flight, with this now gone for good (see EMA thread), do people think there is a chance for EZY going once again year-round with their BHX-GVA ? Sure, they tried before and it didn't work out, but now the gap between MAN and LTN geographically is quite big. The EMA-GVA flight was always pretty busy.
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Geneva
It would likely be a Geneva based aircraft rather than a UK w.
I am sure thay have more lucrative routes heading South in the summer from Geneva than to operate a UK flight to BHX.
Centre cities
I am sure thay have more lucrative routes heading South in the summer from Geneva than to operate a UK flight to BHX.
Centre cities
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Geneva
I had a look at the CAA stats for UK-Geneva for 2008 and the list throws up one or two surprises. Totals are shown for each UK airport as total sched passengers/total charter passengers in thousands rounded to the nearest thousand.
Gatwick 599/102
Heathrow 568/10
London City 333/0
Luton 306/0
Bristol 152/6
Liverpool 142/0
East Midlands 119/0
Edinburgh 110/10
Birmingham 94/24
Stansted 62/14
Leeds-Bradford 55/0
Manchester 48/39
Newcastle 35/6
Bournemouth 33/0
Belfast International 31/0
Cardiff 14/0
Doncaster-Sheffield 13/0
Glasgow 10/6
Southampton 8/0
Exeter 3/5
Newquay 2/0
Norwich 2/0
Belfast City 0/1
At some airports there were one or two charter flights in the year but where passenger totals were fewer than 500 I have shown it as 0.
Birmingham is further down the list than one might imagine, as is Manchester.
Gatwick 599/102
Heathrow 568/10
London City 333/0
Luton 306/0
Bristol 152/6
Liverpool 142/0
East Midlands 119/0
Edinburgh 110/10
Birmingham 94/24
Stansted 62/14
Leeds-Bradford 55/0
Manchester 48/39
Newcastle 35/6
Bournemouth 33/0
Belfast International 31/0
Cardiff 14/0
Doncaster-Sheffield 13/0
Glasgow 10/6
Southampton 8/0
Exeter 3/5
Newquay 2/0
Norwich 2/0
Belfast City 0/1
At some airports there were one or two charter flights in the year but where passenger totals were fewer than 500 I have shown it as 0.
Birmingham is further down the list than one might imagine, as is Manchester.
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Summer 2010 has been amended but still five based at present with Prague the only notable loss from 9/4/10.
Slight reductions in NOC, BFS but that is about it but I only checked
one week in June.
There are a lot of re-timings with Palma going from 0630 departure
to 19.30 plus some days.
Pete
Slight reductions in NOC, BFS but that is about it but I only checked
one week in June.
There are a lot of re-timings with Palma going from 0630 departure
to 19.30 plus some days.
Pete