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Old 16th Nov 2009, 19:20
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Virgin & Pegasus

Virgin was a Manchester diversion to cross winds / wet runway (G-VROS)

PEGASUS, the Turkish airline, which with 18%, is the largest shareholder in Air Berlin, is to substantially increase its services to the UK next year. Plans are to introduce Stansted to Bodrum and Dalaman; Manchester – Antalya and Dalaman; Birmingham – Antalya and Bodrum. Currently it operates a daily flight from Stansted to Sabiha Gokcen, on the Asian side of the Bosphorus at Istanbul, the same airport as easyJet. Pegasus was established in 1990 and introduced scheduled services in 2005. It currently serves 18 domestic and 16 international destinations and by 2015 will have a fleet of 45 aircraft.
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October 2009 passenger figures

From the CAA, down just over 5% and not bad compared to some.

EDI & BRS had two extra Ryanair although BHX was up about 1.5 units
but 3 baby units down (7-8 down to 4-5).

I have not got the split between charter & schedule but thuis year
seemed to have a lot of IT flights ending early although Corfu, Dalaman
& Shelm were well up.Tehran posted good figures along with Dubai and
Islamabad (full figures to follow).

EDINBURGH 824,779 up 3.9%
LUTON 811,441 down -8.4%
BIRMINGHAM 795,335 down -5.3%
GLASGOW 715,187 down -9.1%
BRISTOL 527,412 down -1.6%

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Old 18th Nov 2009, 19:47
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BHX October 2009 Pax are 10% lower than they were in October 2003 !

Now that is alarming !
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Pax actually down 5.8%
Some positives though....
During October significant growth was achieved on scheduled flights to destinations such as Krakow (+282.2%), Bologna (+234.3%), Londonderry (+190.1%), Arrecife (+109.5%), Larnaca (+92.4%), Prague (+46.3%), Hamburg (+44%), Jersey (+34.2%), Marseille (+33.8%), Tenerife (+27.2%), Hanover (+24.1%), Alicante (+22.2%), Malaga (+21%), Bratislava (+17.7%), Mahon (+15.7%), Gerona (+14.1%), Rzeszow (+11.3%), Biarritz (+11.3%) and Dubai (+9.7%).
Charter traffic which experienced growth included Dominican Republic (+551.1%), Egypt (+66.5%), Turkey (+35.2%) and Mexico (+5%).
Scheduled traffic accounted for 76.3% of the total passenger traffic in October whilst charter passengers made up the remaining 23.7%.
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2003/2009 pax

That is quite something - 10% less than 2003!

The October 2009 and 2008 split is as follows

2009 schedule 607462 compared to 635138 in 2008

2009 charter 188552 compared to 209177 in 2008

I thought the schedule loss would have been smaller
and the charter greater but I suppose Ryanair & Baby
reductions ensured the schedule pax were going to be
down.

At least plenty of GA today if nothing else.

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More FR aircraft and route increases from BRS; EDI; PIK and LPL.........many airports have multiple new routes or increased frequencies on exisitng routes already announced for next summer including LBA and EMA. BHX in contrast has a new weekly flight to Iceland, is back to just once a day across the pond and appears to be falling out of favour with FR: Oh I forgot there are some extra flights to Turkey. How is it that other airports are managing to attract new business during a recession and BHX not? At least put out another lame excuse press release about falling pax numbers to cheer me up
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Old 19th Nov 2009, 19:05
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Ryanair to open 10 new routes in UK airports in 2010

19.11.2009
Budget airline Ryanair has announced it is to open 10 new routes from Bristol, Edinburgh, Glasgow (Prestwick) and Liverpool Airports from February 2010.
The move will deliver 400,000 additional passengers per annum and sustain 400 new jobs at these airports in 2010, the airline said.
The new routes are from Bristol to Faro, Gdansk, Palma de Mallorca, Venice (Treviso) and Valencia; from Edinburgh to Tampere; from Glasgow (Prestwick) to Carcassonne; and from Liverpool to Lodz, Rimini and Trapani
Ryanair also said today it will base three more aircraft at Bristol and Liverpool airports in the UK from 28 March 2010, claiming this will see an additional US$210m being pumped into the UK tourism.

Has Mol made an offer that bhx can refuse. manchester repeat
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Old 20th Nov 2009, 01:34
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Most people have stopped believing the FR hype.
The same will happen to those new routes that happen to everything FR. They will be pulled at the drop of a hat. All that employment bull was given when they said that BHX was to be a base.
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Flybe to Croatia no more....

Contacted BE about flights from BHX to Croatia next summer as they have not been released. Reply was that no scheduled flights will be operated from BHX to either DBV or SPU next year, but to look at the new timetable released early Dec for flights from SOU and EXT!!! Another market ex BHX bites the dust. It will have to be LPL and Easyjet then.........very sad
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Croatia

GayFriendly,

An alternative for DBV would be WW from EMA next summer.
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Old 20th Nov 2009, 17:33
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Could the collapse this week of Holiday Options, a tour operator who took seats on the Croatia flights, be responsible, at leats in part, for Flybe pulling their BHX-Croatia flights?
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Well I am traveling in April so it will have to be EZY from LPL, as WW don't start from EMA until June. The main point is though, why should I have to travel to either airport when in reality BHX has the catchment area to be offering such services as well. Why does BHX have to depend on a tour operator (who has apparently failed) to make such flights possible when other airports seemingly don't?. No disrespect to other airports but DBV is available as a scheduled flight from ABZ, NCL, LBA and BFS amongst others in 2010. Something is wrong.
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Flights from BHX or lack of

I am pretty sure i have read before that from the catchment area for BHX that only 50% use BHX as there number 1 departure airport,also that midlanders are the most likely in country to travel to another airport,if the airport could start an initative to get those passengers it would make a massive difference to services/numbers....
Also in these times the difference in price is now even more important as everyone shops around to save a few quid, airlines will always be cheaper from London - even though it must be more expensive to operate from ?
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Has girona pax numbers from bhx been that poor

i can not understand how bhx can not get on this list or are fr twisting the figures

Ryanair serves 50+ destinations and 5 million passengers from Girona base near Barcelona | anna.aero
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Old 21st Nov 2009, 08:39
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Fr Bhx-gro

Hi Potash,

Remember that BHX-GRO is only served 3x weekly, so in terms of volume, it's not one of GRO's biggest routes.

In 2008, BHX-GRO carried 35k pax at an average flown LF of 80% (the route began in April 2008). This made it FR's 49th biggest route from GRO by volume, but the 14th best by flown LF (although this is distorted by the fact that there were no flights in Jan to March 08).

This year so far (Jan to Oct), BHX-GRO has carried 38k pax at an average flown LF of 77%, making it FR's 39th biggest route from GRO by volume and the 36th best by flown LF.

Note that the performance of BHX-GRO is almost certainly diluted by the combination of EMA-GRO, EMA-REU and BHX-REU. Nevertheless, the combined effect of all 4 routes gives Ryanair a very dominant 60% market share of the Midlands - Barcelona area market.
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GRO

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Quite easy this one, BHX-GRO only restarted in April 2008 and for the
whole year was only three a week.

BHX pax 35233 for 2008 with approx 234 rotations average of 150 pax
per flight at 80% load, which I would say is one of BHX's most consistant
services.

As for yield, it is so difficult to judge with so many offers but fares were
not always rock bottom back in 2008, as for profitability I have no idea.

It remained three a week until Nov 09 when it has changed to four but of
course Reus was dropped from late Oct, which operated last winter. Also it is reverting back to three a week next summer.

You will notice that EMA is over 100000 but that has been scaled
back since no doubt to BHX starting and easy EMA-BCN, although the latter will probably end due to the base closure but Baby are re-starting EMA-BCN in 2010.

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Thanks

Many thanks Anna & Pete your knowledge and in formation is much appreciated

Aena to continue with low charges

http://www.lanzaroteguidebook.com/news/lanzarote-news-aena-to-waive-airport-charges-for-2010

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KC135

Drove quite close to BHX yesterday - sure I saw a KC135 on approach to runway 15...what was that doing at Brum?
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KC135 at BHX

57-1440 calling Reach 440, rumours of it being a Mildenhall diversion, it left direct Kansas City at 06.30 this morning !
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Thanks - my eyesight is still ok then!
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