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Old 28th Sep 2009, 11:40
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So far so good. Both the early morning flights left on-time with nearly full loads. Saw it arriving in EDI this morning and it looked really nice.
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Second A318 at LCY

I just drove past City Airport a few minutes ago, there were 2x A318s on the tarmac.

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Old 28th Sep 2009, 18:26
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I didnt think the 2nd 318 was due just yet. Will be good if it is there as that means 2 x 318 and 2 x e170!!
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318's

The second BA 318 is not on the UK register per the CAA site G-INFO.

If there was a second one in LCY in BA colours it must have been
under the Airbus test registration or G-INFO has not been updated.

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Old 28th Sep 2009, 19:49
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Are you sure there were two A318's? It might have been 2x E170 and 1 x A318. Internal BA system gives XFW as the location of the 2nd A318.
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I may have been wrong. I saw 2 aircraft with low (non T shape) tail planes, in BA colours parked at LCY this afternoon.

I assumed that they were both A318s, I have just looked at a picture of an E170. I was not aware that BA were operating 2 new types from LCY.
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Old 28th Sep 2009, 21:16
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Two new BA types form LCY as of today (E170) and tomorrow. (A318)

Currently two E170's by BACF and one A318 by BA mainline can be found at LCY. Plus the remaining RJ's.
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Old 2nd Oct 2009, 20:37
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G-LYCE

Had the pleasure of travelling on the new bird twice this week from and to EDI.

Very impressed with it seemed a step up from the cramped RJs. A bit too much recorded voice for me though, it was almost as bad as FR. Thankfully we were spared the trumpet on our early arrival.

We did seem to have longish flares on landing, espically at EDI this morning, we took quite a while to touchdown. I presume it takes the guys a while to get properly used to the handling quirks of a new aircraft type.

Incidentally (and I know it's the wrong forum), the A318 landed as we were boarding, I counted roughly 26-28 getting off it, that's not a bad load factor at all.
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LondonCityBoy,

The New York A318 has been departing with typically only 1 to 2 passengers, except Friday when it had 12. The return flights have been the most popular with pretty much full loads.

RJ. soon to be Emb170
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That's probably because people don't wish to get off at Shannon on the outbound leg having just settled down for the flight. Anyway, why don't the immigration people at Shannon board the aircraft and clear the passengers that way - can't be that difficult surely, a lot easier for the premium paying passenger, than having to disembark taking their hand luggage with them as well.

Apologies for posting something that relates to Mainline here, but was responding to the above post.
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Old 4th Oct 2009, 19:20
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A318 Loads

I'm surprised by the passenger numbers stated above as Tuesday and Wednesday the flight to JFK were both almost full, so surely only Thursday can have had '1-2 passengers' then as the service only started on Tuesday !
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Think you will find that on the first couple of days of a new launch, that most of the pax were from the media and up market travel agents, flying as guests of BA, with no revenue to speak of. Having said that, they did not have any corkscrews to open the wine on the first sector, so I read in the press, so that will have saved them 32 bottles of Burgundy on the first sector! I understand that corkscrews were available at Shannon for the onward flight to JFK.

It will be interesting to see what the yield/pax load is in a few months.
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Old 4th Oct 2009, 20:35
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Anyway, why don't the immigration people at Shannon board the aircraft and clear the passengers that way
I would imagine data protection/confidentiality would be difficult with total strangers only feet away.
It would pretty awkward if they had to off load the passenger to.

I think the service has a good future. And great for BA.
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Old 4th Oct 2009, 21:02
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Your last paragraph, Barnaby, I agree with. I hope it does well.

The opening two paragraphs are tosh.

What do you think happens when passengers go through the current system? They are strangers presenting themselves to some official and if you they have to be off loaded or detained, fine, what's the big deal? Sorry old fruit, you clearly have little idea what customer service is about and need to get out more.
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Shouldnt this all be in the British Airways thread and not the current Cityflyer one? after all the LCY-JFK service is in fact a mainline service and not cityflyer!
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Which is what I said in an earlier post, Cornishsimon, and for that reason, I shall not post here again on that topic.
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They are strangers presenting themselves to some official and if you they have to be off loaded or detained, fine, what's the big deal? Sorry old fruit, you clearly have little idea what customer service is about and need to get out more.
Any issues, often innocent enough after investigation, would result in someone being escorted off the aircraft and a delay ensuing while their bags are found. I would find that humiliating. This is why there is a space behind you at Immigration so that if there is an issue you can be spoken to professionally without a private conversation being broadcast to all and sundry.
Think of the British Minister denied entry on an official visit to Washington. Twice. Did I mention he was a Muslim? Massively humiliating in any circumstances, being taken into custody and led off a flight would be crushing to anyone. That sir, is a big deal to anyone and I urge to think before you slag off a good and reasonable objection to your hare brained scheme. Customer service has to ba balanced against real other needs.
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Whatever.
Goodbye.
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Old 7th Oct 2009, 18:45
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Skippy, you old so and so, .... thanks for calling me Sir, at least you show some respect, for someone who has knowledge of the better things in life I know what I am talking about, you clearly have some catching up to do.

That's it from me, good luck.
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Ok, back to the topic again. I've dug up something usefull for a chance...

Link: BA CityFlyer E170/190 Routes and inauguration AIRLINE ROUTE UPDATES

Does anyone know how I can copy-paste the text here with it still in the proper format as it is in the link. For some reason I couldn't paste it properly on Pprune.

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