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aye, yer, right, towser, who knows what lies ahead. Anyway, still think a 76 seat aircraft doing charters to PMI would struggle to make money on seats alone, that's where the buy on board is the bizz.
Whilst the 170 is new to the company, could you tell me what a typical fuel burn would be from EDI LCY or LCY PMI.
FF
Whilst the 170 is new to the company, could you tell me what a typical fuel burn would be from EDI LCY or LCY PMI.
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Of course any student of these matters will know, under the terms of the Scope clause, BA Cityflyer are unable to operate any flights out of (or into) LGW, or for that matter LHR.
Weekend charters out of EDI, GLA or the UK regions may well be more profitable than anything out of LCY, with it's limited opening hours. Certainly regional charters have done well before.
Either way, could be some good nightstops (or long days).
During weekend and looking at LCY closing times why not operate for example; EDI/GLA - LCY - PMI - LCY - PMI -LGW - IBZ - etc...
Or a ´W´ pattern for an touroperater could also well work direct from EDI-GLA and then back to LGW or something. Endless variables. But it´s good to see things moving forward.
Or a ´W´ pattern for an touroperater could also well work direct from EDI-GLA and then back to LGW or something. Endless variables. But it´s good to see things moving forward.
Weekend charters out of EDI, GLA or the UK regions may well be more profitable than anything out of LCY, with it's limited opening hours. Certainly regional charters have done well before.
Either way, could be some good nightstops (or long days).
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Well they ought to have gone for the Q400 afterall probably burns about 1000kg EDI LCY and it carries more farepaying 
but I know which one I would rather fly!
I took 79 pax to BHX the other day and we used 750kgs of fuel.
FF
but I know which one I would rather fly!I took 79 pax to BHX the other day and we used 750kgs of fuel.
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BA to charge for booking seat selection
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Exclusive: BA to charge for advance seat selection - Business Traveller
Ł120 to book your seat round trip in Club World??? Cost more to press the buttoin for CW than economy does it?
Exclusive: BA to charge for advance seat selection - Business Traveller
Ł120 to book your seat round trip in Club World??? Cost more to press the buttoin for CW than economy does it?
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It's jolly nice of you to take an interest. Who knows what they'll get up to?
Those who know, they not speaking.
Those who speak, they not know!
Personally, I await developments with interest. I think the plan is to have a bit of a 'hub and spoke' operation, based on LCY.
The E-jets bring in the business types from all around Europe, to the financial centre of the World. There they can do their stuff, bless them, or continue to New York which is the number two centre of the financial world.
If there's not some premium traffic in there somewhere, I'll move to Edinburgh!
Charters? Might be a tickle in it. Don't forget LCY is shut from sat lunchtime til Sunday lunch. So leave them parked somewhere or try to earn some money with them! What's good for the company is good for us!
Thank goodness we've been spared the delights of the Q 400- at least so far!
It's jolly nice of you to take an interest. Who knows what they'll get up to?
Those who know, they not speaking.
Those who speak, they not know!
Personally, I await developments with interest. I think the plan is to have a bit of a 'hub and spoke' operation, based on LCY.
The E-jets bring in the business types from all around Europe, to the financial centre of the World. There they can do their stuff, bless them, or continue to New York which is the number two centre of the financial world.
If there's not some premium traffic in there somewhere, I'll move to Edinburgh!
Charters? Might be a tickle in it. Don't forget LCY is shut from sat lunchtime til Sunday lunch. So leave them parked somewhere or try to earn some money with them! What's good for the company is good for us!
Thank goodness we've been spared the delights of the Q 400- at least so far!
One of my niggles with BA has always been that you cannot pre book seats in WTP. Having said that I have never failed to get good seats. As a regular traveller LON/YVR I probably would be prepared to pay a premium for good seats but grudgingly and of course, it all depends on the price of the seat in the first place
For me though BA could shoot themselves in the foot because on the outbound sector anyway if I could be guaranteed an emergency exit row I might even consider a normal economy seat and save money
In the next couple of days I fly out in the Thomas Cook Premium cabin and will be interested to see how it compares.They charge for pre seat selection at nine pounds per sector. Now about to book seats for the next trip in the New Year and you would expect BA to be much more expensive than charter but in fact it isn't, so pre selection in this class is not such a terrible thing to me.
In club world though, surely not, that should be automatically available at that price and for what anyway I really don't rate as a product!.
For me though BA could shoot themselves in the foot because on the outbound sector anyway if I could be guaranteed an emergency exit row I might even consider a normal economy seat and save money
In the next couple of days I fly out in the Thomas Cook Premium cabin and will be interested to see how it compares.They charge for pre seat selection at nine pounds per sector. Now about to book seats for the next trip in the New Year and you would expect BA to be much more expensive than charter but in fact it isn't, so pre selection in this class is not such a terrible thing to me.
In club world though, surely not, that should be automatically available at that price and for what anyway I really don't rate as a product!.
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Where have you been my old mucker? Out on day release from Barlinnie or Carstairs? How do you know the E jets bring in premium traffic, you have not started operating them yet! Which was the point of my post way back had you bothered to read it.The 170 looks good in the BA colour scheme and will go down well with your passenger. I know LCY closes for 24 hours at Saturday lunchtime, so sure if your commercial department can come up with some nice little earner on charters, it would be silly to pass that opportunity by, but it was been tried in the past, as you well know, alas, without much success.
Anyway, I shall follow progress as it unfolds. Its Happy Hour now and the Greenpoint is about to be served.
FF
Where have you been my old mucker? Out on day release from Barlinnie or Carstairs? How do you know the E jets bring in premium traffic, you have not started operating them yet! Which was the point of my post way back had you bothered to read it.The 170 looks good in the BA colour scheme and will go down well with your passenger. I know LCY closes for 24 hours at Saturday lunchtime, so sure if your commercial department can come up with some nice little earner on charters, it would be silly to pass that opportunity by, but it was been tried in the past, as you well know, alas, without much success.
Anyway, I shall follow progress as it unfolds. Its Happy Hour now and the Greenpoint is about to be served.
FF
So I guess next its baggage charges?
BA are surely kidding themselves that at 10 pound its value for money and as for club world................!!
Incidently does any other carrier charge such a fee for scheduled operations to pick some crummy seat?
Am ditching them fast.
BA are surely kidding themselves that at 10 pound its value for money and as for club world................!!
Incidently does any other carrier charge such a fee for scheduled operations to pick some crummy seat?
Am ditching them fast.
As a retired employee of a once great airline I feel ashamed to actually admit I worked for BA as a Purser. The way this airline is going is no worse than FR and their charges.
Do BA not realise that passengers - sorry customers have a choice to fly from A to B these days to avoid BA at LHR. The internet is a great place to shop for travel and customers can actually choose a decent carrier with the knowledge that they won't pay stupid charges for extras such as seat choice.
Tomorrow I'm flying Royal Jordanian to LHR knowing I'll get good inflight service with a choice of meals, drinks, a decent seat with ample legroom, a good choice of IFE and a smile from the crew at no extra charge.
Willy Walsh take a leaf out of other carriers and learn a thing or two about customer service
Do BA not realise that passengers - sorry customers have a choice to fly from A to B these days to avoid BA at LHR. The internet is a great place to shop for travel and customers can actually choose a decent carrier with the knowledge that they won't pay stupid charges for extras such as seat choice.
Tomorrow I'm flying Royal Jordanian to LHR knowing I'll get good inflight service with a choice of meals, drinks, a decent seat with ample legroom, a good choice of IFE and a smile from the crew at no extra charge.
Willy Walsh take a leaf out of other carriers and learn a thing or two about customer service
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Just found this article which was published earlier this month.
BA CityFlyer “begins new era” with first E-Jet | Shephard Group
In it Peter Simpson is quoted as saying
"There are a lot of routes on the drawing board,” he noted. “We operate nine at the moment and I see a genuine opportunity for another five routes for our business travellers.”
Looks like next summer might see BACF biggest expansion in routes yet.
BA CityFlyer “begins new era” with first E-Jet | Shephard Group
In it Peter Simpson is quoted as saying
"There are a lot of routes on the drawing board,” he noted. “We operate nine at the moment and I see a genuine opportunity for another five routes for our business travellers.”
Looks like next summer might see BACF biggest expansion in routes yet.
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G-BZAX
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Reported on another forum due in Kemble today at 11am.
ACARSD shows its last recorded flight yesterday CFE034G LCY-GLA.
The message was timed about 19.30.
Whether there was another flight afterwards I don't know but
if there was it does not show on ACARSD.
I trust this is the end of its time at CFE?
Pete
Reported on another forum due in Kemble today at 11am.
ACARSD shows its last recorded flight yesterday CFE034G LCY-GLA.
The message was timed about 19.30.
Whether there was another flight afterwards I don't know but
if there was it does not show on ACARSD.
I trust this is the end of its time at CFE?
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G-BZAX has left the fleet and is at Kemble to be returned to the lessor.
G-LCYE will leave Exeter for LCY tonight at 1900Z. Tomorrow commercial ops will start with the E-Jet. We'll have 2x E170 plus 1x A318 on the ramp as the 2nd one didn't make it early out of XFW.
G-LCYE will leave Exeter for LCY tonight at 1900Z. Tomorrow commercial ops will start with the E-Jet. We'll have 2x E170 plus 1x A318 on the ramp as the 2nd one didn't make it early out of XFW.