BA Cityflyer

[BAladdy]

First E170 Flights on Sale Now!!!!

The first E170 flights are now available to book online. Flights only loaded until 24/10. Guess Winter 09/10 flights will be loaded in next few weeks.

1st Aircraft will enter service 28/09 at will operate

Mon-Fri

(28/09-23/10)

BA8700 LCY/EDI
BA8703 EDI/LCY
BA8453 LCY/AMS
BA8544 AMS/LGW
BA8712 LCY/EDI
BA8719 EDI/LCY

Saturday

(03/10-24/10)

BA8475 LCY/NCE
BA8476 NCE/LCY


Sunday

(04/10-18/10)

BA8738 LCY/FRA
BA8737 FRA/LCY

2nd Aircraft 1will enter service 28/09 at will operate

Monday-Friday

(12/10-23/10)

BA8731 FRA/LCY
BA8732 LCY/FRA
BA8733 FRA/LCY
BA8734 LCY/FRA
BA8735 FRA/LCY
BA8736 LCY/FRA

Saturday

NO Flight Scheduled

Sunday

NO flight Scheduled

[sam1993]

The BA website is currently showing all flights as operating by either the RJ100 or 'Not Available' I presume any flight with aircraft showing 'Not Available' will be operated by the new E170

Sam

[AirLCY]

I checked Expedia - it shows the flights as E170's too.

[DutchBird-757]

Slight mistake on the first aircraft MON-FRI rotation with BA8544 AMS-LGW. Surely that must be the BA8454 LCY. Nice to see the aircraft loaded in the system. Can't wait till we get to see/operate them.

A very nice improvement for our passengers!

[speedrestriction]

A nice improvement in terms of pax comfort but it won't land as nicely as the RJ, but then again few aircraft do. Are the Cityflyer aircraft getting a HGS fit?

[DutchBird-757]

The E-jets won't get the HGS fitted. Purely because 50% of our approaches at CAT I (LCY) and all crew need to be re-trained in using the HGS system during LVP's. So it's not a practical nor cost efficient system for our type of operation. I would love to have a play with it though.

[Skipness One Echo]

Is G-BXAR still at LCY or has it already been scrapped?

[Deep and fast]

Most of it was there this arvo

D and F

[celso75]

What is HGS?

[CheekyVisual]

Having landed the RJ at LCY I think a Head up display would be bloody brilliant for that approach CAT 1 or not ! Of course it would fall off and knock the captain out the first time you "arrived" on a windy day !

By the by has anyone in sao paulo tried repeatedly dropping a 170 from 30 feet on to solid concrete at 120 knots ? Will be interesting to see how the little electric jets stand up to the hammering.

[DutchBird-757]

celso75, HGS stands for Head-up Guidance System. I've included a link here.

[DutchBird-757]

Now something different. Embraer released a press release that they expect to hit another milestone with the delivery of the 600th E-jet (+/- 900 firm orders) within the next coming months.

So, who is going to get it? If my calculations are corrent then nr.600 will be delivered in Sep. Most propably late september so little change it will be BACF. We'll most propably get E Jet #587, #591 and #611. Don't quote me on this.

Current delivery rate is roughly 13.3 aircraft in 1Q09. The Augsburg Airways (LH) E190 (cn 190000290) was one of the last to be delivered (June 9th IIRC)

The 400th was delivered to Republic Airways and #500 to Air France.

Currently the E-jet family flew more than 110 million passengers since it was launched in 2004. Embraer recently celebrated their 5th year E-jet anniversary and has 52 E-Jet customers in 32 countries.

[WHBM]

Originally Posted by Skipness One Echo

Is G-BXAR still at LCY or has it already been scrapped?

Scrutiny of the aircraft after arriving through Gate 24 last night showed the horizontal stabiliser is off, and the fin (which protrudes above the fence) has been painted black to conceal the BA logo, while through gaps in the fencing panels around the aircraft you can see that various scrapping plant is in place, although it looks to have just had component removal so far.

When it is reduced to scrap and removed in skips, I presume this will only take place out of operational hours.

Incidentally, good loads both ways on BA yesterday out of/in to City. Do I hear business is looking up again ? Catering also far better than you get on competing CityJet/Air France.

[nebpor]

Yep, had a good look at G-BXAR when I landed from Glasgow this morning - from what I could see, all flaps and stabilisers removed and the engines are now gone from their pylons as well.

I've flown on it a few times I think - looks quite sad sitting there .... I've grown fond of the wee RJs

[DutchBird-757]

BACF Winter 09/10 timetable will be loaded into BA.com earliest in AUG. New BACF routes to be announced for start in JUN/JUL 2010. I expect these to be announced together with the start of the Embraer operation/promotion.

We currently hold 7 sets of slots ex-LCY. This due to the demise of Flightline (ex DUB/NCE/EDI flights) and the W/O of 'AR'.

My money is on Prague being one of them.

[cornishsimon]

any chance of seeing DUB back again ?

[RB311]

You can always fly Cityjet to DUB

[BAladdy]

Article about BACF

New fleet to cut environmental impact, says Cityflyer - Wharf

Have just read this article online about BACF. Looks like BACF will add more leisure routes ex LCY. The say that the BCN inparticular has proved even more popular this summer. Hopefully this means they will be able to add a second daily service. A afternoon service ex LCY would make a good edition, As would a morning Saturday service during the summer peak.

BACF Winter 09/10 timetable will be loaded into BA.com earliest in AUG. New BACF routes to be announced for start in JUN/JUL 2010. I expect these to be announced together with the start of the Embraer operation/promotion.

We currently hold 7 sets of slots ex-LCY. This due to the demise of Flightline (ex DUB/NCE/EDI flights) and the W/O of 'AR'.

My money is on Prague being one of them.

Prague would be a good fit for the leisure market and would do well year round. Interesting that they are almost ready to announce the new routes. Do we know if it looks likely to be just one route or a few.

A few months I asked if the E-Jets will be able to fly to destanations like FAO or AGP from LCY without any restriction, however the exact details about the aircraft and it's performance were not availble when I first asked. Can any BACF insiders answer the question yet??.

[DutchBird-757]

Sorry mate, haven't heard anything about the E-jet's performance out of LCY yet.

[towser]

My understanding is that with the 170 and prob the 190 there is no performance issue. In other words you can take off at max in all conditions. This of course is yet to be seen!